The Utah data center becomes a case study in the NSA's long fight over surveillance and oversight.
James Bamford's conversation with Leonard Lopate is strongest when it frames the NSA's huge Utah data center as more than a construction story.

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Quiet stories with public consequences.
Underreported from WNYC's The Leonard Lopate Show takes patient, source-driven looks at stories that sit outside the main news cycle. Its conversations move from concrete reporting to wider questions about power, law, security, food, and political instability.
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Underreported from WNYC's The Leonard Lopate Show is a public-affairs interview series with a reporting-first temperament. It is concerned with the stories that do not fit neatly into the day's loudest arguments. The format is simple and demanding: identify a complicated issue, bring in someone who has reported or studied it closely, then walk through the evidence with patience. The show often starts from a concrete object. A secret CIA history, a Utah data center, a malware worm, a DNA database, or a food price index becomes the doorway into a much larger public question. It has a strong historical sense. The Northern Ireland episode looks beyond the formal peace accord to the economic frustration still present in marginalized communities. The Eritrea conversation places famine, authoritarian rule, Italian colonial history, and Red Sea geography in the same frame. Security stories are handled with particular care. The NSA segment weighs surveillance capability against legal limits and intelligence failures, while the Stuxnet episode slows down enough to define a zero day before asking what cyberwar might mean. The show is also attentive to food systems. Rising grain prices, Egypt's wheat imports, Nile water pressure, Indian farmers, GM crops, and agribusiness policy are treated as political forces rather than background economics. Legal and civil-liberties concerns run through the DNA database episode, where forensic promise sits beside questions about involuntary collection and retention. The tone stays measured. It can be grave, but it does not perform shock. Its best moments come when a guest's specific reporting is pressed one level deeper, from incident to structure. That makes the series useful for listeners who want explanation without theatrical certainty. It is old-school radio in the best sense: context-rich, guest-led, and serious about what public attention misses.
Made for: For listeners who prefer careful interviews, historical context, and policy detail over fast commentary. It suits people drawn to civil liberties, foreign affairs, food systems, intelligence, and overlooked conflicts.
What sets it apart: The show turns under-covered subjects into structured, accessible interviews without flattening their complexity. It connects reporting, history, law, and public consequence in a calm broadcast style.
Major news events throughout the world continue to be largely ignored until they reach tragic proportions. Underreported, a weekly feature on The Leonard Lopate Show, tackles these issues and gives an in-depth look into stories that are often relegated to the back pages.
Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026
Focused guest interviews preserve the arguments, uncertainties, and policy mechanics surrounding events that later became part of the historical record.
Leonard Lopate starts with a defined public question, then gives one guest room to establish the facts while he presses on mechanisms and consequences.
Leonard follows the hidden mechanism until cyberwar, surveillance, and food prices stop looking like separate headlines to you.
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The Utah data center becomes a case study in the NSA's long fight over surveillance and oversight.
James Bamford's conversation with Leonard Lopate is strongest when it frames the NSA's huge Utah data center as more than a construction story.
Stuxnet moves from Minsk detection to the politics of cyberwar.
The segment follows Stuxnet from a rebooting computer in Iran to the question of who was behind it. Michael Joseph Gross explains the mechanics with unusual clarity, beginning with the first detection in Minsk and the discovery of a Windows flaw nobody had seen before.
Food prices, water stress, and political strain meet in a brisk, global interview.
Food prices drive the discussion, with grain supplies, Russia's crop losses, and unrest in the Arab world all brought into the same frame without losing the thread.
A sharp look at India's GM-crop debate, U.S. influence, and the pressures on small farmers.
The piece frames India's GM-crop push as a question of power, trade, and control over food, and that reading fits the material closely. It connects Obama's India visit to the USAID- and Confederation of Indian Industry-sponsored Food and Agriculture Center of Excellence, along…
A grounded account of Baghdad's gay nightlife becoming more visible, and more dangerous, after the surge.
The episode follows gay life in Iraq after the 2003 invasion through journalist Michael Luongo's reporting trips in 2007 and 2009. Baghdad's underground clubs, cafes, and safe houses form a tense map of social life, where the search for connection sits close to the threat of…

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Overlooked lives, read from the sources, talked through warmly.
An interview discussing Eritrea's political isolation, food shortages, and colonial history as an underreported global issue.
Journalist Michael Luongo discusses gay and lesbian life in Iraq after the 2003 invasion, including Baghdad cafes, safe houses, militia attacks, and the absence of exact death figures despite a 2009 Human Rights Watch estimate in the hundreds.
On WNYC's Underreported, Peter Bergen tells Leonard Lopate that the U.S.
Jill Robinson says China’s bear farms hold an estimated 14,000 bears, while the official figure is 7,000.
Jean Friedman Rudowski tells Leonard Lopate that quinoa prices tripled in five years as US and European demand grew.
James Bamford discusses the NSA's Bluffdale, Utah data center with Leonard Lopate, describing a one-million-square-foot site on Camp Williams that could become a "warehouse for intercepted communications." He says the center is meant to store NSA data for years, analyze it through fiber optic links, and support cryptanalysis with massive message volumes and fast computers.
An interview with journalist Michaela Rong about the political and humanitarian situation in Eritrea.
An interview about the release of the CIA's secret multi-volume history of the Bay of Pigs invasion, 50 years after the event.
Michael Joseph Gross describes how a Belarus analyst, Sergei Ulysses, first found Stuxnet after a client computer in Iran kept rebooting.
On WNYC's Underreported, Lester Brown ties the FAO's record-high food price index to Russia's 2010 heat wave, U.S.
An interview discussing the legal and privacy implications of widespread DNA collection by law enforcement in the United States.
Jairam Ramesh put India’s genetically modified eggplant rollout under a moratorium after nationwide hearings.