Third Space Thoughts to Policy

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Empathy, forgiveness, hope: values examined as education research.

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Amina talks with developmental psychologists, peacebuilders, and educators about qualities such as empathy, self-regulation, gratitude, and a sense of belonging. Many of these conversations tie back to IIIT's Mapping the Terrain study, so the values are discussed as things to research in education as well as ideals to admire.

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About Third Space Thoughts to Policy

Third Space Thoughts to Policy is the interview podcast of IIIT's Advancing Education in Muslim Societies program, known as AEMS. Its guiding idea, repeated in every sign-off, is holistic human development. That premise shapes the guest list. Amina interviews developmental psychologists, peacebuilders, social and emotional learning specialists, and scholars of teaching, and asks each one to explain a single value or capacity in depth. The 2019 titles repeatedly pair well-being with a second field: teacher training, philanthropy, ethics, youth, data, the future, and even podcasting. One of them is titled 'Well-being in the War Zone'. The 2020 titles turn to individual values, including hope, a sense of belonging, meaning making, forgiveness, empathy, self-regulation, critical thinking, and gratitude, and several are tied to IIIT's Mapping the Terrain study. The conversations reward close attention. Across two episodes, Dr. Carolyn Zahn-Waxler traces empathy back to infancy and reports concern for others in some three-month-olds. She also names a darker counterpart, active disregard for others, which she links to later antisocial behavior. She speaks openly about growing up with a depressed mother, and the research interview becomes something more personal. Dr. Kimberly Schonert-Reichl cites a New Zealand study that followed children into adulthood, and she treats self-regulation as a foundation for empathy rather than a separate skill. Dr. Gregory Light distinguishes deep learning from surface learning and urges people to question a source before passing information along. Dr. Mohammed Abu-Nimer resists a tidy picture of forgiveness. He separates a victim's personal pardon from the accountability a legal system may still demand, and he weighs justice and timing as obstacles to reconciliation in Northern Ireland, South Africa, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Meena Srinivasan connects gratitude to mindfulness and social and emotional learning, and she shares small daily practices such as three-breath hugs drawn from Thich Nhat Hanh. The interviewing is warm and affirming. Amina often reflects a guest's points back before moving to the next question. Each episode opens with a substantial account of the guest's background, and some interviews run across two parts. One opening explains that a conversation was simply too absorbing to cut. Closings carry a disclaimer that the views are the speakers' own and an invitation to email questions for a season finale. For a place to begin, one closing points listeners to episodes 25 through 37 as a set on these values and their link to the Mapping the Terrain study. Heard together, that stretch works as a guide to the study's vocabulary.

Made for: Suits a listener interested in social and emotional learning or values-based education who wants researchers to explain their findings at length. It also fits someone who prefers a warm, appreciative interview style to combative questioning.

What sets it apart: Its interviews are tied to a specific research effort, IIIT's Mapping the Terrain study, so values such as hope, belonging, and gratitude are treated as subjects of education research rather than slogans. The guest range is also unusual, running from infant empathy research to interfaith peacebuilding.

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Third Space Thoughts to Policy is the official podcast for the Advancing Education in Muslim Societies (AEMS) program at IIIT, the International Institute of Islamic Thought. The purpose of our podcast (Third Space Thoughts to Policy) is to hear from experts and stakeholders in the field of education policy reform including policy advisors, governmental officials, academics, teachers, and parents. For IIIT's Mapping the Terrain Research Department, education is not just about mastering arithmetic and literacy, but improving community mindedness, moral reasoning, forgiveness, and empathy so that learning is a transformative process improving society as a whole by advancing each individual spi…

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  • to hear why a baby's feelings might help children name their own, beyond a laminated empathy slogan
  • to think about forgiveness as a mutual relationship rather than a demand to simply move on
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Episode 37 - The Power of Gratitude During the Time of COVID-19 with Meena SrinivasanAug 4, 2020

A warm, grounded conversation about gratitude as attention, practice, and a force that can move through relationships.

Gratitude lands here as a practice of attention during the pandemic, starting with presence beside a son and opening outward to essential workers, health workers, family, friends, and colleagues.

Episode 36 - The Complexity and Importance of Empathy with Dr. Carolyn Zahn-Waxler (Part 2)Jul 28, 2020

A thoughtful look at empathy across family conflict, public leadership, and institutional life.

Empathy is framed as a demanding social capacity, shaped by circumstance as much as temperament. The episode follows that idea across schools, communities, police departments, and prisons, then brings it closer to the pressures of poverty, conflict, crisis, depression, and…

Episode 35 - The Complexity and Importance of Empathy with Dr. Carolyn Zahn-Waxler (Part 1)Jul 21, 2020

A grounded developmental review of empathy, early concern, and the risks of active disregard.

Empathy is treated as something with a developmental history, visible from the first years of life and shaped by genes, temperament, family life, and socialization. Dr.

Episode 34 - Problem Solving and Critical Thinking During the Time of COVID-19 with Dr. Gregory Light (Part 2)Jul 14, 2020

A thoughtful bridge from inherited university habits to the ways study abroad can reshape how students understand experience.

Dr. Gregory Light's second conversation on critical thinking and problem solving is strongest when it sits with the distance between good intentions and inherited educational practice.

Episode 33 - Problem Solving and Critical Thinking During the Time of COVID-19 with Dr. Gregory Light (Part 1)Jul 7, 2020

A grounded look at how assumptions, evidence, authority, and communication shape stronger problem solving.

Dr. Gregory Light frames critical thinking as something concrete: a discipline learners can use to test assumptions, weigh perspectives, sort what matters from what does not, and connect knowledge to real problems.

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    Episode 34 - Problem Solving and Critical Thinking During the Time of COVID-19 with Dr. Gregory Light (Part 2)

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    Episode 32 - Self-regulation and Mindfulness (Part 2) with Dr. Kimberly Schonert-Reichl

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    Episode 31 - Self-regulation and Mindfulness (Part 1) with Dr. Kimberly Schonert-Reichl

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    Episode 30 - How Empathy Can Break Cycles of Violence with Ms. Mary Gordon, President and Founder of Roots of Empathy

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    Third Space Thoughts to Policy interviews Mary Gordon, founder of Roots of Empathy, about using babies, parents, and classroom observation to develop empathy in children.

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    Episode 29 - The Complexity of Forgiveness in Conflict Resolution and Peace Building with Dr. Mohammed Abu-Nimer

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    Jun 9, 2020·33m·2 clips
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    Episode 28 - Making Meaning instead of Chasing Happiness with Emily Esfahani Smith

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    Episode 27 - Sense of Belonging in the Time of COVID-19 with Dr. Cynthia Miller-Idriss

    May 26, 2020·34m
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    Episode 26 - The Power of Hope with Dr. Andreas Krafft

    May 19, 2020·28m
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    Episode 25 - Mapping the Terrain in the Time of COVID-19 with Dr. Ilham Nasser

    May 12, 2020·31m
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    Episode 24 - Season 2 Finale, Well-being and Data with Dr. Jehanzeb Cheema from George Mason University (GMU)

    Nov 26, 2019·20m
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    Episode 23 - Well-being and the Future with Scott Jordan from The Centre for Postnormal Policy and Futures Studies (CPPFS), Part 2

    Nov 19, 2019·34m
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    Episode 22 - Well-being and the Future with Scott Jordan from The Centre for Postnormal Policy and Futures Studies (CPPFS), Part 1

    Nov 12, 2019·32m
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    Episode 21 - Well-being and Teacher Training with Dr. Nora El-Bilawi from Hood College

    Nov 5, 2019·26m
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    Episode 20 - Well-being, Culturally Responsive Education, and the Far Right with Dr. Cynthia Miller-Idriss from American University (AU)

    Oct 29, 2019·41m
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    Episode 19 - Well-being and Ethics with Venerable Tenzin Priyadarshi from the Dalai Lama Center for Ethics and Transformative Values at MIT

    Oct 22, 2019·22m
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    Episode 18 - Well-being and Philanthropy with Dr. Shariq Siddiqui from Indiana University

    Oct 15, 2019·35m
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    Episode 17 - Well-being & Youth with Mara Kronenfeld from International Youth Foundation (IYF), Part 2

    Oct 8, 2019·28m
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    Episode 16 - Well-being & Youth with Mara Kronenfeld from International Youth Foundation (IYF), Part 1

    An interview with Mara Kronenfeld, regional director at International Youth Foundation, discussing youth education and empowerment programs in the Middle East and North Africa.

    Oct 1, 2019·24m
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    Episode 15- Well-being & Podcasts with Walid Darab from Greed for Ilm

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    Episode 14 - Well-being in the War Zone with Dr. Maryam Sharifian from James Madison University (JMU)

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    Sep 17, 2019·39m
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    Episode 13 - Wellbeing, Human Development, & Values Based Education with Dr. Ilham Nasser from IIIT

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    Episode 12 - Inclusion, Empathy, and Culturally Responsive Education with Dr. Debbie Almontaser

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    May 31, 2019·34m
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    Episode 11 - Geopolitics and Education: Is Globalization on Pause?

    Mar 15, 2019·54m
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    Episode 10 - Making Change through the System Accessible

    Mar 11, 2019·51m
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    Episode 9 - Special Interview with Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim, Chairman of IIIT and President of the People's Party, Malaysia

    Feb 27, 2019·19m
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    Episode 8- The Value of Grassroots Engagement and the Role of Women

    Feb 1, 2019·21m
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    Episode 7- Defining Islamic Education and Human Development

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    Episode 5 - Out of the Box Learning

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    Episode 6 - A Conversation with Tyler on Education

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    Episode 4 - Turning a Vision into Reality

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    Episode 3 - Creating Reading Cultures

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    Episode 1 - Thoughts in the Third Space

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    Episode 2 - Mapping the Terrain

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