The Unschool Space

Esther Jones

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Unschooling isn't just about education, it's a life choice! For most parents, embracing unschooling requires some serious unravelling of old paradigms around parenting, learning and childhood, and that can be both challenging and exhilarating. Join me, Esther Jones, a mindful parenting coach and unschooling mother-of-three, as I take a look at the many opportunities for reflection that naturally arise in an unschooling home. Each episode, I chat with other parents about their family’s experiences. From self-care, neurodiversity and mindfulness, to how to live consensually and trust our children, this podcast is here to help parents navigate the everyday challenges so th...

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#54 Nature, freedom and slowing down, with Ruth Macallan in Zambia

A gentle, practical look at unschooling, de-schooling, and mindful parenting.

Ruth McAllen's conversation treats unschooling as a daily practice rather than a theory: child-led routines, slower rhythms, family arrangements, and the discipline of trusting judgment when parenting choices run against convention.

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    #80 Making unschooling work for the whole family, with Cyrielle in Ontario, Canada

    This episode features an interview with Cyrielle, a former teacher in Ontario, Canada, discussing her family's unschooling journey, neurodivergence, and balancing parental well-being with child-led learning.

    ·40m
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    #76 Life and learning alongside John Holt, with Pat Farenga in Massachusetts, US

    This episode features an interview with Pat Farenga discussing his experiences working with John Holt, the history of unschooling since the 1970s, and how self-directed learning has evolved over the last 50 years.

    ·47m
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    #93 The courage to step into the unknown, with Claire Gillespie in Hertfordshire, UK

    This episode features a conversation with Claire Gillespie about the courage required to leave mainstream schooling for unschooling, and how this decision transformed her family's life and relationships.

    ·53m
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    #99 Trusting the ebb and flow - unschooling with four neurodivergent children, with Cassie Emmott in East Sussex, UK

    This episode features a conversation with Cassie Emmott about unschooling with four neurodivergent children, discussing how to manage different needs, foster deep learning, and maintain parental presence.

    ·40m
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    #71 Consent-based living and learning, with Alice Bramhill in Nottingham, UK

    This episode features a conversation with psychotherapist Alice Bramhill about her family's journey to unschooling, focusing on consent-based living, agency for children, and unravelling personal stories to support mindful parenting.

    ·49m
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    #91 From London to Silicon Valley, with Makeba Garraway, US

    This episode features an interview with Makiba Garraway, a former doctor from the UK who moved to Silicon Valley and discusses her family's journey to unschooling after mainstream school didn't fit their eldest child.

    ·46m
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    #88 Finding trust in our own paths, with Esther Grimes in Australia

    Host Esther Jones interviews Esther Grimes about her family's journey from conventional schooling to unschooling after realizing their oldest son couldn't cope with traditional school.

    ·43m
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    #59 Four of the most-asked questions I get about unschooling, with Esther Jones

    Host Esther Jones addresses four common questions about unschooling, focusing on children's motivation, exams, partner support, and parental feelings, offering insights for parents on this educational journey.

    ·29m
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    #61 Honouring our children and learning to let go, with Danii Oliver in Texas

    This episode features a conversation with Dani Oliver about her family's transition to unschooling and permaculture farming in Texas, focusing on the challenges of de-schooling and learning to trust children.

    ·47m
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    #66 From Silicon Valley to roadschooling, with Stacey Yates Sellar in Scotland

    This episode features an interview with Stacey Yates-Sellar, a conscious parenting coach, discussing her family's transition from Silicon Valley to roadschooling and embracing unschooling principles.

    ·45m
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    #94 Journeys from burnout to recovery, with Holly from South Wales

    This episode features a conversation with Holly from South Wales about her journey from burnout to recovery, exploring how unschooling provides a compassionate approach to supporting children through emotional distress while addressing adult pressures in society.

    ·55m
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    #85 Slowing it all right down, with Ruth Macallan in Zambia

    This episode features a conversation with Ruth Macallan about unschooling and mindful parenting while living in Zambia, focusing on topics like boredom and slowing down.

    ·46m
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    #67 A journey back to ourselves, with Francine Wise in Kent, UK

    Host Esther Jones interviews Francine Wise about her family's journey from trying various educational approaches like Waldorf and Charlotte Mason to embracing unschooling as a path toward authentic living and mindful parenting.

    ·49m
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    #92 Unschooling our autistic children–finding joy in the unknowing, with Mariam Carter in Southern California

    This episode features a conversation with Mariam Carter about her family's journey to unschooling their autistic children, focusing on shifting from academic achievement to trust and safety in learning.

    ·47m
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    #72 Unschooling and PDA—connection, patience and safety, with Helen Stuart, Rochdale, UK

    This episode features a conversation with Helen Stuart about unschooling and PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) in autistic children, focusing on creating safe, regulated environments for learning.

    ·45m
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    #69 From burnout to thriving, with Lizzie in Hampshire, UK

    This episode features a conversation with Lizzie, a parent in the UK, discussing her family's unschooling journey, particularly focusing on how it helped her autistic son recover from burnout and challenging traditional educational conditioning.

    ·55m
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    #86 Putting our children's mental health and happiness first, with Lizz Mears in Dorset, UK

    This episode features a conversation with parent Liz Mears about her family's journey to unschooling, focusing on prioritizing children's mental health and happiness over traditional schooling systems.

    ·41m
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    #97 Looking back—reflections on grown unschooled children, with Linda Velwest in New Jersey

    This episode features a conversation with Linda Velwest, a parent of three adult unschooled sons, reflecting on their family's unschooling journey and the different paths each child took.

    ·38m
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    #58 Unravelling our own stories to raise empowered children, with Adrienne Miller in Vancouver

    This episode features a conversation with Adrienne Miller about her journey into unschooling, exploring how unraveling personal stories and conditioning can help raise empowered children.

    ·53m
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    #84 Intentional living and learning in the Canadian Boreal Forest, with Erin Cummings in Ontario

    This episode features a conversation with Erin Cummings about her family's intentional unschooling lifestyle in the Canadian boreal forest, focusing on simple living, indigenous connections, and parental fulfillment.

    ·49m
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    #83 Redefining success and learning to trust our children, with Dana Huraimi in Dubai

    This episode features a conversation with Dana Huraimi about her unschooling journey, redefining success, and navigating parenting challenges in a school-centered culture.

    ·41m
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    #95 Thriving at 14, after school burnout, with Maddy in Somerset

    A conversation with Maddy about her daughter's experience with school burnout and subsequent thriving through unschooling, exploring the family's journey and the impact of letting go of traditional educational expectations.

    ·47m
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    #55 Deschooling and moving beyond our limiting beliefs, with Lucy Aitkenread in New Zealand

    This episode features an interview with Lucy Aitkenread about her family's unschooling journey in New Zealand, exploring how deschooling helps parents overcome limiting beliefs from traditional education systems.

    ·51m
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    #81 Unravelling our old narratives, with Leila in Melbourne, Australia

    This episode features a conversation with Leila from Melbourne about her family's unschooling journey, exploring conscious parenting, overcoming educational conditioning, and applying anthropological perspectives to learning.

    ·45m
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    #68 Unschooling and neurodiversity—the power of community and keeping our own balance, with Melissa Crockett-Joyoue in New Zealand

    This episode features a conversation with Melissa Crockett-Joyeux about unschooling neurodivergent children, focusing on parental self-regulation, community support, and the challenges of alternative education.

    ·53m
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    #90 From falling apart to building something new, with Nicola Leyland, UK

    This episode features a conversation with Nicola Leyland about her family's journey from traditional schooling to unschooling after her son's brain injury, exploring the challenges and freedom of alternative education.

    ·41m
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    #53 Living, learning and thriving as a family, with Claire Gillespie in Hertfordshire, UK

    Host Esther Jones interviews Claire Gillespie, a mother from the UK, about her family's four-year unschooling journey, exploring how it started with her son's request to leave school and its impact on their daily lives and personal growth.

    ·52m·5 clips
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    #56 Older unschoolers and the value of practising being yourself, with Missy Willis in North Carolina

    This episode features an interview with Missy Willis, a former teacher and unschooling parent, discussing the journey to unschooling, overcoming parental fears, and how this approach helps children connect with their own values.

    ·53m
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    #54 Nature, freedom and slowing down, with Ruth Macallan in Zambia

    Host Esther Jones interviews Ruth Macallan, an unschooling mother living in rural Zambia, about her family's journey to child-led learning.

    ·54m·5 clips
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    #52 Intentional deschooling and lining up with our values, with Daniel Moeller in Pennsylvania

    Esther Jones interviews Daniel Muller, a former teacher, about his family's unschooling journey with his son Kai, exploring how childhood power dynamics influence parenting and the importance of intentional deschooling.

    ·56m·5 clips
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    #64 Living, learning and healing, with Linsey, in the East Midlands, UK

    This episode features a conversation with Lindsay, a parent in the UK, about her family's journey into unschooling after removing their eldest son from school due to difficulties.

    ·49m
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    #89 Living in alignment: from school to unschool to worldschool, with Ivana Petersen in Denmark

    This episode features host Esther Jones interviewing Ivana Petersen about her family's transition from traditional schooling to unschooling and worldschooling, exploring the challenges and joys of alternative education.

    ·43m
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    #70 A journey to authenticity, with Dr Nicole Vito, in California

    This episode features a conversation with psychologist Dr.

    ·45m
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    #79 The freedom of embracing our children and ourselves for who we are, with Nora McDonald in Costa Rica

    Host Esther Jones interviews Nora McDonald about her family's journey from traditional home education to unschooling in Costa Rica, focusing on embracing children's individuality and the role of technology as a catalyst for change.

    ·51m
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    #101 Unschooling and one child's recovery from burnout, with Jenny Mainwaring in Oxford, UK

    This episode features an interview with Jenny Mainwaring about her experience unschooling her son after he suffered burnout in primary school, discussing recovery, family dynamics, and socialization.

    ·46m
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    #77 Following the golden threads, with Shannon Stoltz in Houston, Texas

    Host Esther Jones interviews Shannon Stoltz about her family's unschooling journey, including navigating skeptical partners and recognizing the 'golden threads' in children's lives.

    ·51m
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    #98 There is no one right way to live, with Stephanie McDowell in Texas

    Host Esther Jones interviews former teacher Stephanie McDowell about her journey from burnout to unschooling her daughter, exploring alternative approaches to education and parenting.

    ·43m
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    #96 Following a deeper knowing and letting go of systems that don’t serve us, with Ash Winton in Queensland, Australia

    This episode features a conversation with Ash Winton about unschooling, natural learning, and the importance of following intuition over social norms in parenting.

    ·47m
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    #87 From organic fruit farming to worldschooling, with Irene Genelin in Minnesota, US

    This episode features an interview with Irene Genelin, who discusses her family's transition from organic fruit farming to full-time travel and worldschooling with their 10-year-old daughter.

    ·43m
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    #82 Slowing down and watching life and learning unfold. With Fiona Sim in Scotland

    This episode features a conversation with Fiona Sim from Scotland about her family's journey into unschooling and home education, exploring the challenges and joys of letting go of structured planning to embrace a more mindful, child-led approach to learning and life.

    ·41m
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    #75 Following our own rhythms—unschooling with PDA, with Rose from Oxfordshire, UK

    This episode features an interview with Rose, a parent from Oxfordshire, UK, discussing her family's unschooling journey with her six-year-old autistic son who has PDA, focusing on home-based learning, rhythms, and connection.

    ·57m
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    #73 Allowing our children to be who they are, with April Scully in South Carolina

    This episode features a conversation with former teacher April Scully about unschooling, exploring how it allows children to discover their passions and identities beyond traditional schooling.

    ·51m
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    #62 Trusting our children, and learning to value rest and play, with Robyn Tamlin-Lea in New Zealand

    This episode features an interview with Robyn Tamlin-Lea about her family's unschooling journey, focusing on trusting children, valuing rest and play, and moving beyond academic expectations.

    ·47m
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    #65 Helping our children follow their joy, with Melissa Miles McCarter in Missouri, US

    This episode features an interview with Melissa Miles McCarter about her family's unschooling journey, focusing on helping children follow their passions and interests.

    ·45m
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    #60 Unschooling and playful living, with Heidi Steel in West Sussex, UK

    This episode features a conversation with Heidi Steel about unschooling, the importance of play in children's learning, and living consensually with children for a more joyful family life.

    ·45m
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    #57 Embracing the ease of natural learning, with Julie Walter in Ontario, Canada

    This episode features an interview with Julie Walter, a former teacher and unschooling parent, discussing the differences between classroom learning and natural learning at home, and how to support children through this educational journey.

    ·53m
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    #78 When unschooling is a healing journey, with Essie Richards in Cornwall, UK

    This episode features an interview with Essie Richards about how unschooling became a healing journey for her family, focusing on parental deconditioning and the operation of an agile learning centre.

    ·54m
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    #63 Finding our balance, embracing rest, and lots of self-compassion, with Claire Windmill in Devon, UK

    This episode features an interview with Claire Windmill, a parenting mentor and former social worker, discussing her family's journey to unschooling, the importance of balance, rest, and self-compassion for parents, and the impact of allowing children to be themselves.

    ·52m
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    #100 In celebration of 100 conversations and The Unschooling Summit 2026, with Melissa Crockett-Joyoue

    This episode celebrates 100 conversations on the podcast and discusses the upcoming Unschooling Summit 2026, featuring insights from co-founder Melissa Crockett-Joyoue about the event and unschooling experiences.

    ·31m
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    #74 Connection, understanding and creating our own paths, with Coralie Steadman in Cambridgeshire, UK

    This episode features a conversation with Coralie Steadman about her family's journey to unschooling, driven by her son's autism and PDA diagnosis and a desire for meaningful, passion-driven learning.

    ·50m
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    #102 From soccer mom to unschooling coach—changing the stories in our heads, with Sue Patterson in Austin, Texas

    Hidden gem

    Sue Patterson tells Esther Jones how her family moved from mainstream schooling to unschooling after Michael became bored in first grade and Katie experienced auditory processing difficulties in preschool.

    Apr 1, 2026·47m·3 clips
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    #51 A place of possibility - living, learning and healing beyond school, with Donna in East Sussex

    Host Esther Jones interviews Donna about her family's shift from school stress to unschooling, exploring the liberating journey of trust and curiosity.

    Nov 8, 2023·49m
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    #50 Unravelling our stories, with Dr Emma Svanberg

    Hidden gem

    The Unschool Space episode #50 features Esther Jones interviewing clinical psychologist and author Dr Emma Svanberg about the internal stories that shape parents’ ideas of education, control, and achievement.

    Oct 23, 2023·53m·3 clips
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    #49 Putting the relationship first, with Hayley in Derbyshire, UK

    Esther Jones interviews Hayley from Derbyshire, UK, who began unschooling 14 years ago after her eldest daughter questioned why she had to attend secondary school.

    Oct 2, 2023·47m·3 clips
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    #48 Unschooling our children and our own lives, with Holly from South Wales

    Host Esther Jones discusses unschooling with a former teacher who transitioned her family to this lifestyle, exploring themes of autonomy and liberation from traditional schooling.

    Sep 19, 2023·42m
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    #47 Consent-based parenting around the globe, with Fran Liberatore

    Hidden gem

    Esther Jones interviews Fran Liberatore about consent-based parenting and unschooling while Fran's family moves between Bangkok, Maine, and Sicily.

    Sep 5, 2023·53m·3 clips
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    #46 Unschooling and shifting our parenting paradigms, with Chelsea in LA

    Chelsea moved from New York to California with two sons, ages 10 and 6, after COVID intensified her older son's problems at a new school.

    Jul 11, 2023·58m·2 clips
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    #45 Healing from school and holding our children's journeys lightly, with Rhonda Ziman in East Sussex

    Jun 27, 2023·46m
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    #44 From high school teaching to unschooling, with Angela Harders in Maryland

    Jun 6, 2023·40m
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    #43 Creating a self-directed learning community, with Lorna Norton in North Yorkshire

    Hidden gem

    Esther Jones speaks with Lorna Norton, co-founder of Kith Homestead in North Yorkshire, about creating a self-directed learning community for 25 to 30 children aged five to eleven.

    May 21, 2023·47m·3 clips
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    #42 Why self-directed learning is a natural fit for our children, with Naomi Fisher

    Clinical psychologist Naomi Fisher argues that self-directed learning protects children's curiosity, autonomy, and intrinsic motivation from school rewards and exams.

    May 8, 2023·1h·2 clips
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    #41 In search of wholeness - deschooling and shedding all the layers, with Sari Gonzàlez and Becka Koritz in Mexico

    Apr 23, 2023·50m
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    #40 A new journey - slowing down, reconnecting, and embracing our children's autonomy, with Caroline Frances in Ontario

    Apr 10, 2023·53m
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    #39 Unschooling on the path to healing, with Sarah Rose in Maine

    Mar 27, 2023·53m
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    #38 How children naturally educate themselves, with Peter Gray, author of Free to Learn

    Peter Gray describes how his son rejected a suburban public school before finding Sudbury Valley School, founded in 1968.

    Mar 14, 2023·1h·2 clips
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    #37 The natural joy of living in partnership with young children, with Lou Westall in Brighton, UK

    Feb 28, 2023·48m
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    #36 Unschooling and living a slower, more intentional life, with Ashley Short in Ontario, Canada

    Feb 14, 2023·54m
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    #35 Healing, trust, and low demand parenting. Unschooling and PDA, with Amanda Diekman in North Carolina

    Jan 31, 2023·52m
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    #34 Creating an authentic life that meets everyone's needs, with Emma Hosfeld in Illinois

    Jan 17, 2023·52m
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    #33 Living joyfully and in relationship with our children, with Pam Laricchia in Ontario

    Jan 3, 2023·55m
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    #32 Worldschooling and partnership parenting our teenagers, with Lainie Liberti in Mexico

    Dec 12, 2022·49m
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    #31 Moving from eclectic homeschooling to unschooling, with Marni Kammersel in Colorado

    Nov 29, 2022·53m
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    #30 Four different journeys - as our unschoolers become adults, with Erin Rosemond in Ontario, Canada

    Nov 13, 2022·55m
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    #29 A new unschooling journey and challenging old stories, with Katy from Connecticut

    Oct 30, 2022·55m
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    #28 Deschooling, healing, and stepping off the treadmill, with Emily Ghassempour

    Oct 17, 2022·40m
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    #27 Reflections on life with grown unschooled children, with Ann Hansen in Oregon

    Oct 3, 2022·47m
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    #26 Unschooling and healing from trauma and upheaval, with Melissa Crockett-Joyoue in New Zealand

    Sep 20, 2022·45m
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    #25 From tiger mother to peaceful parent, with author, Iris Chen

    Aug 24, 2022·45m
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    #24 Unschooling and unraveling our beliefs, with Esther Jones (and guest host Nicola Corcoran)

    Aug 8, 2022·43m
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    #23 Three unschooled journeys. Reflections on her adult children's paths in life, with Jane Evans in New Zealand

    Jul 6, 2022·45m
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    #22 A healing journey. Autism, PDA, and life beyond school, with Eliza Fricker

    Jun 13, 2022·48m
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    #21 Trust and flow - a post-pandemic unschooling journey, with Arielle Nobile in Argentina

    May 5, 2022·51m
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    #20 Reflections on an unschooled childhood, childbirth and self-directed education, with Bria Bloom

    Apr 18, 2022·43m
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    #19 Unschooling and living in relationship with our young children, with Sarah Plazas in Boulder, Colorado

    Mar 14, 2022·40m
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    #18 Tending relationships. Reflections on self-directed education and living with adult children, in Montreal, Canada, with Renee Tougas

    Feb 8, 2022·44m
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    #17 The right environment and lots of trust - two essential ingredients for unschooling with autism/PDA, with Simon Crummay

    Jan 16, 2022·36m
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    #16 Intersectional unschooling in East London, with Naomi Clarke

    Dec 7, 2021·44m
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    #15 Holding space for our children and uncovering our limiting beliefs, with Nadia Joshua

    Nov 22, 2021·35m
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    #14 Letting go: from teacher to unschooling parent in Atlanta, Georgia, with Marta Obiols

    Nov 6, 2021·36m
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    #13 The daily practice of unschooling, healing and gentle parenting, with Sarada Villeneuve

    Oct 25, 2021·37m
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    #12 Living without school, from Dubai to Maine, with Fran Liberatore.

    Aug 23, 2021·39m
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    #11 Unschooling in the south of France, with Laura Smith

    Jul 16, 2021·34m
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    #10 Unschooling teens, the importance of mental health, and a father's perspective, with Anthony Eldridge-Rogers

    Jun 27, 2021·40m
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    #9 Joy, fun, trust, and creating a life that works for you, with Lianne Campbell

    Jun 13, 2021·40m
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    #8 Undoing our scripts, letting go, and unschooling with teenagers, with Lehla Eldridge

    Jun 2, 2021·35m
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    #7 A new unschooling journey and embracing the whole child, with Paige Hall

    May 5, 2021·35m
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    #6 Living in connection with our children and rediscovering ourselves, with Heidi Steel

    Apr 20, 2021·34m
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    #5 Unschooling our neurodivergent children, with Naomi Fisher

    Apr 3, 2021·37m
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    #4 Raising empowered people, and trusting ourselves, with Sophie Lovett

    Host Esther Jones interviews Sophie Lovett about her family's journey into unschooling and the principles of self-directed learning.

    Mar 17, 2021·31m
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    #3 Self-therapy, balance and living with our children, with Sophie Larcher

    Host Esther Jones interviews Sophie Larcher about her family's unschooling journey, discussing natural rhythms and living together with children.

    Mar 2, 2021·33m
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    #2 Wellness, healing and living for the moment, with Nicola Corcoran

    Feb 13, 2021·29m
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    #1 Deschooling and taking care of ourselves, with artist and mother Jenny Arran

    Jan 30, 2021·30m