The Social Work Lens

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Child welfare conversations that turn the lens on systems.

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The Social Work Lens comes from the University of Vermont's Child Welfare Training Partnership and the State of Vermont. Its conversations keep asking what systems do to families instead of what is wrong with them, with guests that include an adoption scholar, a filmmaker, a Food Not Cops member and a university culture and compliance officer.

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About The Social Work Lens

The Social Work Lens is produced by the University of Vermont's Child Welfare Training Partnership and the State of Vermont, and it takes the form of studio interviews. What marks the conversations is where they point: less at what a young person or family did wrong, more at what the surrounding systems keep doing. The episode 'Foster Care to Prison Pipeline Part 1: Dr. Sherri Simmons-Horton' puts it plainly. It asks why the same populations, among them kids experiencing poverty, kids of marginalized races and LGBTQ youth, see negative outcomes across child welfare, education and criminal justice alike. It also names what helps: stability, family connection formed long before removal, the awareness that something in the system is not right, and for some participants, spiritual belief. That series is told through guest host Mackenzie Leonard, a student intern from Champlain College working toward a bachelor's degree in social work. Adoption is examined from more than one side. Filmmaker Chithra Jeyram comes in to discuss her film Love, Chaos, Kin before a Burlington screening and audience Q&A, and the talk turns to race and belonging inside adoptive families. One voice admits to having wanted 'a hole fixed' without thinking about the holes being created. Dr. Seungmi Laura Cho, speaking as an adopted person, brings abolitionist perspectives to Korean intercountry adoption and points to Adoptee Solidarity Korea's petition asking the Korean government to end it. She is careful. She makes room for adoptees whose adoptions produced loving families while questioning how low-income single-parent families get reduced to 'birth mothers'. The show's range runs past child welfare, too. Dr. Sam Bliss, an ecological economist and Food Not Cops member, walks through the plain mechanics of rescued food: end-of-day farmers market produce, sealed yogurt past its sell-by date, day-old bread that might need toasting. The same conversation calls out better-off neighbors who blame homelessness and addiction on the people experiencing them. In 'DEI Part 2: What Is Going On In Higher Education?', academics and DEI professionals, including Paul Yoon, Chief Culture and Compliance Officer at Vermont State University, ask why the current administration is attacking higher education; Part 1 featured Vermont Attorney General Charity Clark on executive orders. Vermont resources get direct attention as well. Emma McDessie, Director of Camp Programs at Outright Vermont, describes camps for queer and gender-creative kids, including Camp Branch Out for 10- to 12-year-olds, and camper feedback that came back overwhelmingly hopeful. Cassie Gillespie and Chyna Boyce conduct interviews in a warm, affirming register. Start with the Simmons-Horton conversation for the show's core argument, or the Camp Outright spotlight for its local side.

Made for: Suits a listener working in or studying social work, foster care or adoption who wants conversations that weigh systems and policy alongside individual families. It also fits someone looking for Vermont community resources discussed next to national and international questions.

What sets it apart: It comes from a university child welfare training partnership working with the state, yet it openly questions the field's own practices, from adoption as best practice to the path from foster care into prison. Spotlights on local Vermont resources sit right beside those critiques.

In their own words

The Social Work Lens (formerly known as Welcome to the Field) is a podcast for child welfare professionals, caregivers, & all folks wanting to learn about social work & child welfare. Join the Training Specialists at the University of Vermont’s Child Welfare Training Partnership (VT- CWTP) as they bring you interviews with local, national, & international experts on subjects ranging from case typologies to systems level change.

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A sack of donated beans might change how you think about who gets called deserving.

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  • to question the charity script when donated food is shared with everyone who comes to eat
  • to hear adoptees ask what gets lost when adoption is treated as a tidy ending
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Foster Care to Prison Pipeline Part 1: Dr. Sherri Simmons-HortonApr 3, 2026

A clear, systems-focused opening that traces foster care's harms without putting the blame on young people.

The opening installment of The Social Work Lens' foster care to prison pipeline series moves the focus away from blaming young people and families and toward the systems shaping their lives.

Vermont Resource Spotlight on Camp Outright!Jan 16, 2026

A Vermont camp conversation shows how belonging can become a practical form of hope for queer and gender-creative youth.

The Social Work Lens follows a Vermont camp conversation about what changes when queer and gender-creative children enter a space where they are not the only kid.

Re-examining the Narrative Around Adoption: A Conversation with Chithra JeyramDec 19, 2025

A filmmaker reflects on how adoption reshapes family ties without making the old ones vanish.

The Social Work Lens invites award-winning filmmaker Chithra J. Ram to discuss Love, Chaos, Kin, with adoption framed through identity, belonging, and family bonds that resist clean endings.

What is “Anti-Adopterism” with Dr. Seungmi Laura ChoDec 5, 2025

A measured adoptee-led discussion of Korean intercountry adoption, child welfare, and the systems that made adoption seem normal.

Korean intercountry adoption is examined here through Dr. Seungmi Laura Cho's path from being treated as an object of social work intervention to developing work on anti-adopterism.

Food Not Cops with Sam BlissNov 19, 2025

A grounded conversation about food, dignity, and mutual aid in Burlington.

Food Not Cops is presented as Burlington's chapter of Food Not Bombs, an international movement that shares food freely in public space while protesting the choice to fund war over basic needs.

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Episodes

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    Foster Care to Prison Pipeline Part 1: Dr. Sherri Simmons-Horton

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    Sherry Simmons-Horton says more foster kids are sent to prison than college, and links that line to placement instability, delinquency charges, and school disruption.

    Apr 3, 2026·32m·2 clips
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    Vermont Resource Spotlight on Camp Outright!

    Hidden gem

    ["Emma McDessie says Camp Outright's camper evaluations showed youth leaving with a sense of hope.", "Chyna Boyce interviews McDessie, Director of Camp Programs at Outright Vermont, about the queer summer camp for youth 13 to 17.", "The episode gives concrete dates for Camp Outright applications, which open Monday, February 2 and close Monday, March 2, and explains why the process stays open for a month instead of first-come, first-served.", "Chyna and Emma also discuss scholarships, BIPOC outreach, Camp Branch Out in Montpelier, Sunrise in southern Vermont, and the CAT and CAST advisory teams that shape camp each year."]

    Jan 16, 2026·46m·2 clips
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    Re-examining the Narrative Around Adoption: A Conversation with Chithra Jeyram

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    ["The Social Work Lens episode centers Chithra J.

    Dec 19, 2025·47m·2 clips
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    What is “Anti-Adopterism” with Dr. Seungmi Laura Cho

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    ["Cassie Gillespie hosts The Social Work Lens with Dr.

    Dec 5, 2025·30m·2 clips
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    Food Not Cops with Sam Bliss

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    Cassie Gillespie hosts Dr.

    Nov 19, 2025·47m·2 clips
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    DEI Part 2: What Is Going On In Higher Education?

    Hidden gem

    Paul Yoon describes DEI through the line “diversity is a fact, inclusion is a choice, equity is a practice, and belonging is an outcome.” Jay Garvey says higher education can deepen understanding when people with different perspectives participate in learning.

    Oct 27, 2025·45m·2 clips
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    DEI Part 1: AG Charity Clark on Executive Orders

    Hidden gem

    On The Social Work Lens, host Cassie Gillespie asks Vermont Attorney General Charity Clark what executive orders mean for DEI.

    Oct 21, 2025·24m·1 clip
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    Rooted in Pride: Youth-Led, Youth-Centered

    Hidden gem

    Emmett, a second-year youth organizer with Outright Vermont, says youth can describe their own lives and experiences of discrimination.

    Sep 24, 2025·26m·1 clip
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    What happens when the rules change overnight?

    Cassie Gillespie interviews her friend of roughly 25 years, immigration attorney Anna Rogers, about practicing removal defense in Denver, Colorado, under the second Trump administration.

    Sep 12, 2025·38m·2 clips
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    Immigration is a Human Right (revisited): Detained & Interrogated

    Wilmer Savaria says officers seized his district-issued laptop, demanded passwords and pins, and questioned the validity of his marriage during a four-to-five-hour border interrogation.

    Jul 28, 2025·47m·2 clips
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    Restoring Connection: Paul Nixon on Transforming Child Welfare Through Relational Practice

    Hidden gem

    Paul Nixon, a social worker since 1990 and New Zealand's chief social worker for ten years, tells China Boyce that family group conferences changed how decisions about children are made.

    Jul 11, 2025·44m·2 clips
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    Human Rights & the work of VT’s Human Rights Commission with Big Hartman

    Jun 6, 2025·46m
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    Affirm, Connect, Resist: How Community Shapes Trans Liberation - Part 2

    May 23, 2025·37m
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    Affirm, Connect, Resist: How Community Shapes Trans Liberation - Part 1

    May 16, 2025·35m
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    “Immigration is a Human Right”

    Apr 25, 2025·32m
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    Immigration 101 with Jill Martin Diaz

    Apr 11, 2025·54m
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    HOW THE STORY IS TOLD: Part 3- The child welfare that can be realized through our imaginations and life's work.

    Mar 28, 2025·24m
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    HOW THE STORY IS TOLD: Part 2- Voices from the Conference

    Mar 21, 2025·29m
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    HOW THE STORY IS TOLD: Part 1 - What is a Title IV-E Roundtable Anyway?

    Mar 14, 2025·37m
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    Special Episode! The Social Work Lens Welcomes VT Attorney General Charity Clark

    Mar 7, 2025·27m
  21. 21

    The Social Work Lens Presents... Audio Nuggets Episode 35 - Myah Overstreet

    Oct 18, 2024·1h 9m
  22. 22

    Critical Approaches to the DSM

    Aug 2, 2024·38m
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    Sibling Aggression & Abuse

    Jul 17, 2024·35m
  24. 24

    Mandated Reporting: Safety or Surveillance?

    May 21, 2024·49m
  25. 25

    The Triple Intersection of Trauma, Neurodiversity & Gender Diversity – Part 3

    May 10, 2024·42m
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    The Triple Intersection of Trauma, Neurodiversity & Gender Diversity – Part 2

    Apr 26, 2024·30m
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    The Triple Intersection of Trauma, Neurodiversity & Gender Diversity – Part 1

    Apr 12, 2024·38m
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    Youth & Suicide Series Part 3: Moving beyond prevention into creating lives of hope and connection.

    Mar 1, 2024·32m
  29. 29

    Youth & Suicide Series, Part 2- Someone screened positive - Now what?

    Feb 16, 2024·39m
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    Youth & Suicide Series Part 1- You Have To Ask.

    Feb 2, 2024·46m
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    Youth Voice Mini-series- Part 3

    Oct 13, 2023·31m
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    Youth Voice Mini-series - Part 2

    Sep 29, 2023·32m
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    Youth Voice Mini-series - Part 1

    Sep 15, 2023·33m
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    Child Welfare with Justice as the Throughline Part 3: Nurturing Freedom Dreams

    In the final episode of a miniseries on racial justice and child welfare, hosts discuss building a just child and family support system with guests Corey Best and Erica Radke.

    Jun 23, 2023·58m
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    Child Welfare with Justice as the Throughline, Part 2

    Part two of a conversation on child welfare with justice as the throughline, focusing on listening to black people's truth and directing anger at racist ideology rather than individuals.

    Jun 9, 2023·34m
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    Child Welfare with Justice as the Throughline Part 1

    Apr 28, 2023·42m
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    A Reflective Approach to Uncomfortable Conversations

    Apr 7, 2023·29m
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    Harnessing Courage in Conversations to Keep Kids Safe

    Oct 26, 2022·37m
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    The Team as a Secure Base with Dr. Laura Biggart

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    Oct 7, 2022·25m
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    The Secure Base Model with Dr. Gillian Schofield

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    Sep 23, 2022·28m
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    Part 2: Navigating Uncomfortable Conversations about Normative Child Sexual Development and Behavior

    Sep 9, 2022·37m
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    Part 1: Navigating Uncomfortable Conversations about Normative Child Sexual Development and Behavior

    Aug 26, 2022·31m
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    Adoption is Uncomfortable

    Aug 12, 2022·45m
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    Safety Culture: Why feeling connected to your colleagues matters.

    Jul 29, 2022·39m
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    Leaning into Uncomfortable Conversations

    Jul 15, 2022·39m
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    Season 3 Trailer: Leaning into Uncomfortable Conversations

    Jul 7, 2022·2m
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    SEASON FINALE- Youth Voice: Stigma in Foster Care

    Dec 6, 2021·38m
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    SPECIAL MINI-SERIES: RACE & RACISM IN CHILD WELFARE Part 3 – Birth, Foster, & Adoptive Families

    Nov 23, 2021·56m