The Run-Up

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Astead Herndon reports the 2024 campaign trail, from Iowa evangelicals to America's non-voters

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The Run-Up treats the election as a set of live tensions rather than a horse race. Its reporting moves from grocery store parking lots to campaign headquarters, convention speeches, activist disputes, and party factions trying to decide what they can tolerate.

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About The Run-Up

The Run-Up is a New York Times podcast hosted by political reporter Astead Herndon that tracked the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign cycle from the primaries through the general election. The show alternates between narrative field reporting and interview-driven episodes, often built around one central question that Herndon returns to throughout an episode. Recurring subjects include the Republican primary and Trump's hold on the party despite criminal charges and civil findings against him, the role of evangelical voters in early states like Iowa, the RNC's transformation into a campaign operation under Trump allies, and data-backed reporting on non-voters and electoral abstention. Guests include campaign and party insiders (such as RNC member Henry Barber), presidential candidates (Vivek Ramaswamy), religious and political organizers (Bob Vander Plaats of the Family Leader), and ordinary voters and non-voters interviewed directly, drawing on outside research such as a Knight Foundation study of non-voters. Episodes frequently pair opposing voices — an establishment Republican against a MAGA-aligned figure, or several non-voters with different reasons for sitting out — to map internal divides rather than present a single narrative. The reporting relies on original interviews and campaign-trail scenes rather than roundtable punditry or daily news-cycle commentary. Listeners drawn to this show are politically engaged people, journalists, and campaign staff who want granular, reported accounts of how the election unfolded rather than horse-race polling analysis. Episodes run roughly 45 minutes to just under an hour and mix in-studio interviews with on-location segments. Herndon serves as the sole host and interviewer across sampled episodes.

Made for: Politically engaged listeners, journalists, and campaign staff seeking reported, on-the-ground analysis of the 2024 U.S. presidential election beyond horse-race polling.

What sets it apart: Builds episodes around single-guest interviews and field reporting that map internal party divides and voter/non-voter behavior using original research, rather than roundtable punditry.

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“The Run-Up” is your guide to understanding the 2024 election. Host Astead W. Herndon talks to the people whose decisions will make the difference. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher.

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Based on 4 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Election strategy becomes concrete through probing interviews with candidates, party figures, committed voters and people largely outside electoral politics.

The Run-Up follows the forces shaping a presidential election by putting Astead W. Herndon in conversation with political insiders, candidates, party loyalists and people who rarely vote.

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Why It Had to Be TrumpMar 14, 2024

A sharp look at how Republican reluctance gave way to the Trump-centered party that now exists.

The Run-Up treats Donald Trump's 2024 nomination as a live question, not a foregone conclusion. Ested Herndon opens with the hard contradiction: Trump becomes the presumptive Republican nominee again despite criminal charges, legal penalties, two impeachments, election denial,…

Why It Had to Be BidenMar 7, 2024

Ron Klain's long Biden history helps explain the rematch and the Trump lesson still shaping it.

The Republican primary is over, Nikki Haley has suspended her campaign, and Biden's delegate count has made the expected Trump-Biden rematch plain.

Everything You Need to Know About Super TuesdayMar 5, 2024

A steady look at Super Tuesday's turnout uncertainty and consequential down-ballot races.

Super Tuesday is framed as a test of whether a familiar presidential rematch can still hold voters' attention. Herndon sets the day across 15 states and one territory, with the presidential primaries unlikely to alter the larger Biden-Trump trajectory, then shifts toward House,…

The Run-Up Goes to IowaJun 23, 2023

Iowa is where the Trump rematch assumption gets tested against actual Republican voters.

The episode treats the 2024 race as a Trump-centered story and assumes a nomination for him is close to a done deal, with a Biden rematch hanging over everything.

Don’t Ask RFK Jr. About Being a Spoiler

A focused look at why RFK Jr.'s independent run has Democrats organizing around spoiler risk.

The Run-Up treats Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s independent campaign less as a curiosity than as a live problem for Democrats trying to plan for November.

What About the People Who Don’t Vote?

A sharp look at nonvoters that treats turnout as a trust problem, not just a campaign problem.

The Run-Up turns from the usual hunt for persuadable voters to the harder question of people who may stay home altogether. The episode gets its footing in the odd, funny business of trying to reach someone outside the political habit, then uses that encounter to ask whether…

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  1. 1

    What About the People Who Don’t Vote?

    New York Times reporter Ested Herndon investigates America's roughly 100 million non-voters ahead of the 2024 presidential election, drawing on a Knight Foundation study of 12,000 non-voters and phone interviews with people who sat out 2020.

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    A Divided America Agrees: We Deserve Better Than This

    This episode explores political polarization in America through the lens of a nonpartisan Braver Angels Convention in Kenosha, Wisconsin, where attendees from across the political spectrum gathered to watch a presidential debate and share their reactions.

    ·36m
  3. 3

    The Fight for Rural America

    This episode analyzes how political candidates discuss rural issues, focusing on the contrasting narratives presented by vice presidential candidates Tim Walz and J.D.

    ·51m
  4. 4

    What Republicans Lost When They Won on Roe

    This episode explores the political challenges Republicans face after the overturning of Roe v.

    ·48m
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    What Undecided Voters Are Thinking

    This episode follows undecided voter Corey Zeck in Middletown, Ohio during a 2024 presidential debate watch party, exploring her shifting political allegiances and what undecided voters are thinking.

    ·42m
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    The Soundtrack of Donald Trump

    This episode analyzes the symbolic use of Lee Greenwood's 'God Bless the USA' as Donald Trump's theme music during his emotional first public appearance at the Republican National Convention after surviving an assassination attempt.

    ·37m
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    Tailgating in Wisconsin With the Bros Trump Needs

    A journalist attends a Wisconsin tailgate to explore the growing political gender gap among young voters, observing beer dye games and discussing swing state dynamics.

    ·39m
  8. 8

    The Democrats' New Chance in Wisconsin

    This episode explores the political landscape and local culture of Lodi, Wisconsin, focusing on its voting patterns and the town's quirky mascot, Susie the duck.

    ·56m
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    It’s Kamala Harris’s Party Now. What’s Different?

    This episode analyzes Kamala Harris's rapid ascension as the Democratic presidential nominee and examines how her policy agenda compares to traditional Democratic platforms.

    ·35m
  10. 10

    The Trump Plan to Flip Georgia Back

    This episode discusses Donald Trump's strategy to flip Georgia back to Republican control in the upcoming election, with additional content featuring an interview with Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer about Democratic strategy.

    ·1h 32m
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    Inside the College Democrats’ Rebuke of Biden

    This episode explores how the College Democrats of America publicly criticized President Biden's stance on anti-war campus protests, revealing internal divisions and examining its political implications for young voters.

    ·48m
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    The Defining Moments of the D.N.C. Finale

    This episode analyzes the final night of the Democratic National Convention, featuring discussions with political reporters about Kamala Harris's nomination acceptance and key voter perspectives.

    ·26m
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    With J.D. Vance and a Bandaged Ear, Trump Gets His Party Started

    This episode provides on-the-ground analysis from the 2024 Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, focusing on Donald Trump's nomination and what it reveals about the current state of the Republican Party.

    ·15m
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    In Other News, Who Will Control Congress?

    This episode analyzes the 2024 congressional elections, exploring who will control the House and Senate and what it reveals about both political parties.

    ·29m
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    It Really Does Feel Close in North Carolina

    This episode explores the aftermath of Hurricane Helene in North Carolina, focusing on flood damage in Canton and its impact on early voting in this battleground state.

    ·53m
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    A Pollster’s Guide to the Homestretch

    This episode features a discussion with a pollster about navigating the final stretch of the 2024 election, analyzing trends and strategies.

    ·43m
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    The Border Is a Top Campaign Issue. It’s Also Their Home.

    A New York Times reporter takes colleagues to a scenic overlook in El Paso to discuss how the U.S.-Mexico border, a major political campaign issue, is also a personal home for local residents.

    ·41m
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    Maybe It All Comes Down to Abortion

    This episode explores a family murder case involving the narrator's cousin Alan, with reporters investigating at an Arizona trailhead.

    ·49m
  19. 19

    Mark Cuban on Why He's All In for Kamala Harris

    This episode explores why billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban has become an open advocate for Kamala Harris's presidential campaign, focusing on his efforts to convince business-minded people to support her.

    ·38m
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    The Democrats’ Plan to Get Skeptics on Their Side

    This episode analyzes the Democratic Party's strategic messaging at their national convention, focusing on efforts to reclaim patriotism and address skepticism among voters.

    ·40m
  21. 21

    Why Joe Biden Isn’t Getting Credit for the Economy

    This episode examines why President Joe Biden isn't receiving public credit for strong economic indicators like low unemployment and reduced inflation despite his administration's emphasis on Bidenomics.

    ·42m
  22. 22

    Can Celebrities Make a Difference? Your 2024 Election Questions, Answered

    This episode of The Run-Up answers listener questions about the 2024 U.S.

    ·47m
  23. 23

    A Final Dispatch From America’s Bellwether

    This episode revisits Clallam County, America's only remaining bellwether county, to reflect on its political significance and the national mood during the presidential election.

    ·49m
  24. 24

    Trump’s Guilty. Does Anyone Care?

    This episode features an interview with a Republican voter discussing how Donald Trump's recent criminal conviction might influence his voting decision in the upcoming election.

    ·38m
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    What Women Voters Really Want

    This episode revisits the 2005 book 'What Women Really Want' by pollsters Kellyanne Conway and Celinda Lake, examining how its assumptions about women voters valuing integrity have shifted in light of events like Donald Trump's 2016 election and the overturning of Roe v.

    ·48m
  26. 26

    Kamala Harris on Kamala Harris

    This episode examines Kamala Harris's political identity and decision-making through reporter M.

    ·53m
  27. 27

    The Man in Charge of Trump’s Border Policy

    This episode analyzes Trump's post-election appointments, focusing on Tom Holman's role in implementing aggressive border and immigration policies, including mass deportations.

    ·32m
  28. 28

    The Stakes of a Harris vs. Trump Debate

    This episode analyzes the upcoming Harris vs.

    ·19m
  29. 29

    Where Democrats Go After Biden

    This episode analyzes the aftermath of President Biden ending his re-election bid and endorsing Kamala Harris, exploring what led to his campaign's downfall and where Democrats go next.

    ·27m
  30. 30

    One Voter to Understand Trump’s Win

    This episode explores the reasons behind Donald Trump's 2024 election victory by interviewing a voter named Monica to understand the motivations behind his widespread support.

    ·20m
  31. 31

    What Evangelicals Think of Trump's Abortion Flip-Flop

    This episode analyzes Donald Trump's shifting positions on abortion rights and reproductive issues, examining how his recent statements contrast with his previous stance on overturning Roe v.

    ·32m
  32. 32

    The Grocery Bills That Could Decide the Election

    New York Times reporters interview voters in Milwaukee about how economic issues like grocery prices are influencing their political views ahead of the election.

    ·34m
  33. 33

    They Lost to Trump. Now They’re All In.

    This episode analyzes key moments from day two of the Republican National Convention, where former Trump challengers like Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis voiced support for him, focusing on themes of political unity.

    ·14m
  34. 34

    The Comedian Roy Wood Jr. on Biden, Trump and What’s Funny About 2024

    This episode discusses comedian Roy Wood Jr.'s performance at the White House Correspondents' Dinner and explores how the 2024 election provides material for political comedy.

    ·43m
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    ‘I’m Just Really Glad That Trump’s OK’

    This episode analyzes the political implications of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, examining how his allies are framing it as evidence of persecution and its potential impact on the election.

    ·35m
  36. 36

    How Gaza Is Showing Up in Chicago

    This episode explores how anger over Israel's war in Gaza is manifesting at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago through protests and uncommitted delegates, examining whether it poses an electoral threat to the party.

    ·29m
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    All Eyes on Pennsylvania

    This episode follows canvassers in West Philadelphia roleplaying voter outreach scenarios to help people navigate voting options for the upcoming election.

    ·50m
  38. 38

    The Youngest Voters and the Oldest President

    This episode explores the shifting political dynamics of young voters in the 2020 election, focusing on their increased turnout, declining support for President Biden due to age concerns and activism on issues like climate change and Gaza.

    ·48m
  39. 39

    The Democrats Throw Joe Biden a Goodbye Party

    This episode provides live coverage and analysis of the first night of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, featuring speeches from prominent figures like Joe Biden and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

    ·17m
  40. 40

    Project 2025, Suddenly Everywhere, Explained

    This episode explains Project 2025, a Republican blueprint for the next conservative presidency under Donald Trump, which has gained widespread attention after being mentioned at the BET Awards and discussed on social media.

    ·41m
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    Nebraska Was Minding Its Business Until Charlie Kirk Came Along

    This episode examines how Nebraska's unique proportional electoral vote system could be pivotal in the 2024 presidential election, focusing on political mobilization efforts by Donald Trump and right-wing media figures like Charlie Kirk.

    ·36m
  42. 42

    An Insider’s Guide to the D.N.C.

    This episode features an interview with Leah Daughtry, a prominent Democratic National Committee member and convention organizer, discussing her role and insights as the Democratic National Convention gets underway, particularly in the context of the transition from Biden to Harris.

    ·31m
  43. 43

    Democrats Are Panicking About Biden. How Did They Get Here?

    This episode analyzes the Democratic Party's panic after President Biden's poor debate performance against Donald Trump, highlighting widespread voter concerns about his age and mental fitness.

    ·30m
  44. 44

    Your Guide to a Trump vs. Biden Debate

    This episode analyzes the upcoming Trump vs.

    ·53m
  45. 45

    Kamala Harris’s $200 Million Vibe Shift

    This episode analyzes Vice President Kamala Harris's recent $200 million fundraising surge following President Biden's re-election withdrawal, focusing on grassroots Zoom events organized by diverse supporter groups.

    ·36m
  46. 46

    Has RFK Jr.'s Moment Passed?

    This episode explores whether RFK Jr.'s political moment has passed by examining a chaotic campaign event in Michigan with protesters and satirical elements.

    ·38m
  47. 47

    Bernie Sanders Thinks Trump Fever Has Broken

    This episode features an interview with Senator Bernie Sanders discussing his views on the Democratic Party's current political landscape, including his support for Kamala Harris and the challenge of defeating Donald Trump.

    ·36m
  48. 48

    Biden Is Winning the Money Race. Does It Matter?

    This episode analyzes the Biden campaign's successful fundraising efforts, including a record-breaking event with three presidents, and compares their financial advantage over Donald Trump and the RNC.

    ·48m
  49. 49

    Don’t Ask RFK Jr. About Being a Spoiler

    New York Times journalist Ested Herndon interviews Robert F.

    ·42m·4 clips
  50. 50

    What Democrats Think Went Wrong

    This episode analyzes the 2013 Republican autopsy report and how its assumptions about demographic destiny shaping politics were only partially correct, with Democrats now facing unexpected challenges.

    ·49m
  51. 51

    Why It Had to Be Trump

    The Run-Up turns to the question sitting at the center of Trump’s latest return as the Republican nominee.

    Mar 14, 2024·44m·3 clips
  52. 52

    Why It Had to Be Biden

    The Run-Up examines why Joe Biden became the 2024 Democratic nominee despite persistent voter concerns about his age and desire for other options.

    Mar 7, 2024·50m·3 clips
  53. 53

    Everything You Need to Know About Super Tuesday

    The Run-Up examines Super Tuesday, when voters in 15 states and one territory participate in presidential and down-ballot primaries.

    Mar 5, 2024·29m·2 clips
  54. 54

    MAGA Thinks the Game Is Rigged. Will They Play?

    Feb 29, 2024·42m
  55. 55

    ‘What If Someone Dies?’ And Other 2024 Questions, Answered

    Feb 22, 2024·52m
  56. 56

    Do Not Invite Donald Trump or Joe Biden on This Date

    Feb 15, 2024·44m
  57. 57

    How Political Polls Really Work

    Feb 8, 2024·44m
  58. 58

    Why Donald Trump Won Nevada Before Any Votes Were Cast

    Feb 6, 2024·23m
  59. 59

    Will ‘Cease-Fire Now’ Drown Out ‘Biden 2024’?

    Feb 1, 2024·43m
  60. 60

    The ‘People’s President’ vs. the Donor Class

    Jan 25, 2024·43m
  61. 61

    Everything You Need to Know About New Hampshire

    Jan 23, 2024·39m
  62. 62

    It Was Only One State, Right? So Why Does This Primary Feel Over?

    Jan 18, 2024·40m
  63. 63

    The 'Run-Up' Guide to Iowa

    Jan 15, 2024·33m
  64. 64

    ‘Right Where We Want Him, 30 Points Up’: Chasing Trump in Iowa

    Jan 11, 2024·44m
  65. 65

    Is the 2024 Election Already Heading to the Supreme Court?

    Jan 4, 2024·42m
  66. 66

    In a Song of the Summer, Clues for January in Iowa

    Dec 28, 2023·42m
  67. 67

    How Iowa Learned to Love Trump

    Dec 21, 2023·36m
  68. 68

    Why Anti-Trump Republicans Can’t Get on the Same Page

    Dec 14, 2023·41m
  69. 69

    Inside Donald Trump’s Dominance of the G.O.P. Primary

    Dec 7, 2023·53m
  70. 70

    Is Donald Trump Going to Prison?

    Nov 30, 2023·47m
  71. 71

    Are Black Voters Leaving Democrats Behind?

    Nov 23, 2023·55m
  72. 72

    An Interview With Kamala Harris on What’s at Stake in 2024

    Nov 16, 2023·44m
  73. 73

    The Biden Campaign Wants Democrats to Calm Down

    Nov 9, 2023·48m
  74. 74

    What the Last Bellwether in America Thinks Will Happen in 2024

    Nov 2, 2023·44m
  75. 75

    ‘The Run-Up’ Returns, Every Week Through Election Day

    Oct 30, 2023·3m
  76. 76

    The Run-Up Goes to Iowa

    The episode starts with a national assumption under pressure.

    Jun 23, 2023·57m·3 clips
  77. 77

    The Democrat Saying What Others Won’t

    Jun 15, 2023·46m
  78. 78

    The Case for Democrats to Stop Playing Defense

    Jun 8, 2023·54m
  79. 79

    The New Terms of Abortion Politics

    Jun 1, 2023·53m
  80. 80

    The Fight to Define Extremism

    May 25, 2023·55m
  81. 81

    The Backup Plan for Lost Voters

    May 18, 2023·43m
  82. 82

    The Anti-Trump Republicans (and the Specter of 2016)

    May 11, 2023·45m
  83. 83

    The Trump Inevitability Question

    May 4, 2023·48m
  84. 84

    The Pillow Guy and the R.N.C. Chair

    Apr 27, 2023·49m
  85. 85

    The New Demands of the MAGA Right

    Apr 20, 2023·47m
  86. 86

    The Quiet Coronation of Joe Biden

    Apr 13, 2023·42m
  87. 87

    The Republican Party Sorts Through Its Mess

    Apr 6, 2023·52m
  88. 88

    The 2024 Election Is Already Here

    Apr 3, 2023·4m
  89. 89

    The Post-Mortem

    Nov 17, 2022·40m
  90. 90

    The Midterms

    Nov 9, 2022·25m
  91. 91

    The Grass Roots, Part 2

    Nov 3, 2022·57m
  92. 92

    The Grass Roots, Part 1

    Oct 27, 2022·51m
  93. 93

    The Maps

    Oct 20, 2022·33m
  94. 94

    The Flip

    Oct 13, 2022·37m
  95. 95

    The Blueprint

    Oct 6, 2022·43m
  96. 96

    The Guardrails

    Sep 29, 2022·46m
  97. 97

    The Republic

    Sep 22, 2022·46m
  98. 98

    The Autopsy

    Sep 15, 2022·41m
  99. 99

    The Stakes

    Sep 6, 2022·14m
  100. 100

    Introducing 'The Run-Up'

    Aug 30, 2022·3m