
Physiotherapy's big questions, chewed over one guest at a time.
The gist
Under the 'Chewing It Over' name, guests from across MSK and sports medicine field direct questions, such as what AI physiotherapy is, what scars are, and what their most controversial take on practice is. The answers stretch into best practice, private-practice business and the mediocrity one long-serving physio says he has encountered.
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About The Physio Matters Podcast
The Physio Matters Podcast is a conversation show for the musculoskeletal and sports medicine world, and its guests come from well beyond the treatment room. Clinicians sit alongside a company selling injections, an AI physiotherapy service, and a guest with a background in measurement science who wants to help clinics pick the right dynamometer. The guest conversations go by the name 'Chewing It Over', and the name fits. Things start with a direct question, sometimes a deliberately provocative one. What is AI physiotherapy? What are scars, and why should MSK therapists care? From there the talk widens slowly. The interviewer, addressed by guests as Jack, paraphrases a point back, tests what it implies and returns to anything left hanging. Commerce is never far from the clinical detail. Jim Carr of Eos Active, whom the interviewer describes as a non-clinician who resists being pigeonholed as an injection seller, argues that injections belong after rehab has hit a brick wall, not before. Finn Stevenson presents Flock as an attempt to close the gap between rising MSK demand and the limited number of clinicians, with a spine pathway that, for most patients, does not rely on hands-on treatment. The same conversation acknowledges that a hundred physios given one case would each manage it slightly differently. Claire Minshull treats the dynamometer as a serious capital expense for small businesses, one that should not be chosen for the prettiest logo or the most familiar software. Hannah Poulton follows scars below the surface, through collagen remodelling to the internal scarring that can follow chemotherapy and radiotherapy and affect nerve regeneration, circulation and the lymphatic system. Two guests are welcomed back. Drawing on four decades as a physio, Andrew Walton names mediocrity and a lack of ambition as his most controversial take on MSK practice, and he says running into both early in his career is why he started his business. He also gets ribbed for the title he gave himself on joining: Lord Andrew Geoffrey Walton. Andy Thomas discusses his book Real Growth, which nearly went out under another name, and describes positivity as the frame he brings to his work. Warmth and dry teasing sit next to careful, heavily qualified reasoning, and nobody hurries toward a tidy conclusion. What a listener gets is an inside view of how people who build services, sell products and treat patients think about best practice when evidence, money and habit pull in different directions. For clinical detail, start with 'Scars And Their Management - Chewing It Over with Hannah Poulton'. For an argument about the state of the profession, try 'A View From The Top - Chewing It Over with Andrew Walton'.
Made for: Suits a listener who works in or around physiotherapy, sports rehabilitation or MSK services and wants clinical questions discussed alongside the business, technology and career questions that surround them.
What sets it apart: It gives as much room to people selling into MSK, building AI services and measuring strength as it does to clinicians, so questions of best practice keep running into questions of money, scale and ambition. The questioning is patient and qualified rather than neat, and it will tease a guest before testing their argument.
In their own words
Become a Paid Subscriber: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tpmpodcast/subscribePutting big mouths and big ideas behind microphones.The Physio Matters Podcast - Clinical Gold Delivered Direct.Episodes will feature expert, honest advice, delivered directly to listeners at no cost. Musculoskeletal and Sports Medicine information for those working in physiotherapy, sports therapy, sports rehabilitation, medicine and all divisions of the healthcare industry.
As heard by us
Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026
Clinical questions stay connected to evidence, patient engagement and the real constraints surrounding musculoskeletal care.
The Physio Matters Podcast turns musculoskeletal care into a running argument about evidence, access and clinical judgment. Jack Chew conducts probing interviews that let guests explain a position, then tests its assumptions and practical consequences.
Why you'd press play
Jack Chew asks what you'd want asked of an AI physio service: what counts as best practice?
Press play if you want
- to hear low back pain research complicate a tidy hands-on versus hands-off argument
- to weigh rehab against injections when a patient's progress hits a wall
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Episodes
- 1
Why Should Medicine Lean Into Wellness - Chewing It Over High Performance with George Bownes
·47m - 2
A View From The Top - Chewing It Over with Andrew Walton
·43m - 3
Scars And Their Management - Chewing It Over with Hannah Poulton
·50m - 4
Which Dynamometer Is Best? Chewing It Over with Claire Minshull
·58m - 5
Real Growth - Chewing It Over with Andy Thomas
·31m - 6
The Return To Work Mentor - Chewing It Over with Heather Mclellan
·34m - 7
Unreasonable Adjustments Discussed/Disgust - Chewing It Over with Rosi Sexton
·57m - 8
Sore Young Knees - Claire Robertson & Tom Jacobs - Chewing it Over
·44m - 9
What Has Changed For Lower Back Pain - Chewing It Over with David Evans
·42m - 10
Buying And Selling MSK Clinics - Chewing It Over with Joshua Catlett
·34m - 11
Does Physio Have A Future - Chewing It Over with Sue Julians
·35m - 12
Pain Coaching | What Is That?? - Chewing It Over with Richmond Stace
·40m - 13
The Women's Football Hub - Chewing It Over with Carolyn Kent
·49m - 14
Why Should We Measure Things In Clinic with Athan Kollias and Kinvent
·35m - 15
Physio Matters and Physiquipe Partnership Launch Podcast
·25m - 16
Is My Patient Happy - YouMatter with Joanne Elphinston
·30m - 17
Optimising Cliniko with Jack Chew and Rob Beaven
·48m - 18
AI In Physio The CSPs Guidance Doc with Ash James
·40m - 19
Coaching Unpeeled - Chewing It Over With Jo Turner and Jo Elphinston
·38m - 20
Ascenti Shaped Elephants - Chewing It Over 30/04/2025
·32m - 21
Mindful Strides: A Modern Approach To Treating Runners YouMatter With Matt Phillips
·56m - 22
Clinical Researcher: Why Would You? Why Wouldn't You? YouMatter Session 48 with Katherine McNabb, Gillian Campbell, Virginia Rivers Bulkeley
·56m - 23
YouMatter Session 47 - Finding Belongingwith Adam Siu
·49m - 24
Physio First Matters! - Chewing It Over with Katie Knapton
·32m - 25
MSK Business Reflections with Celia Champion - Chewing It Over 22/01/2025
·44m - 26
Artificial Intelligance In MSK - Chewing It Over 15/01/2025
·34m - 27
07/05/25 - Coaching Unpeeled - Chewing it Over
·54m - 28
Knowing Why You Do What You Do AND Why That Matters - YouMatter Session 45 with Tom Jacobs
·48m - 29
Why Should MSK Therapists Care About The Environment? Chewing It Over with Jen McNesfield
·38m - 30
Osteoarthritis Masterclass with Jack March and Jim Carr
·18m - 31
Beyond The Bench (Part 2) : Physiotherapists' Career Shifts - YouMatter Session 44
·1h 22m - 32
Why Should We Be Bothered About The Menopause?! with Phillipa Butler
·35m - 33
The High Performance Series And What's Next with Nicola Graham - Chewing It Over
·46m - 34
YouMatter Session 43 - Beyond the Bench: Physiotherapists' Career Shifts
·1h 20m - 35
Spinal Care Masterclass Is Coming Up!
·2m - 36
Session 104 - Obesity - It’s Relevance In MSK And Beyond with Jennifer James
·1h 23m - 37
That AI Physio Service - Chewing It Over with Finn Stevenson
·52m - 38
YouMatter Session 42 - Improving The Quality Of Our Services Benefits Us As Well As Our Patients with Jo Kitchen
·47m - 39
Session 103 - Exploring Beautiful Movement with Joanne Elphinston
·1h 21m - 40
What Does Entrepreneurship Mean? Chewing Over High Performance with Peter Grinbergs
·45m - 41
YouMatter Session 41 - Have You Been Told You Are Too Sensitive?with Becki -Taylor-Smith
·53m - 42
What We Should Know About Perimenopause - Chewing It Over with Claire Callaghan
·29m - 43
Chewing Over High Performance Episode 5 - What Is Your Strategy With Joshua Catlett
·37m - 44
Chief Executive Officer Of The CSP - Who Wants That Job? Chewing It Over with John Cowman
·59m - 45
Therapy Live 2024 News!
·3m - 46
Are Desks And Desk Postures Affecting Our Health - Chewing It Over with Michael O'Reilly
·42m - 47
Chewing Over High Performance Episode 4 - Who Is The Customer In Healthcare with Angela Shott
·41m - 48
YouMatter Session 39 - Clinician And Writer with Thomas Jesson
·54m - 49
What Is The Point Of Shockwave - Chewing It Over with Dominic Smith
·31m - 50
Thoracic Acupuncture Updates - Chewing It Over with Jonathan Hobbs
·18m - 51
Chewing Over High Performance Episode 3 - Leadership and Learning In Performance with Dan Howells
·43m - 52
YouMatter Session 38 - Clinician and...and...and...and.............. with Charli Robertson
·1h 15m - 53
What Profession Makes The Best MSK Clinicians? Chewing It Over with Daniel Moore
·36m - 54
Chewing Over High Performance Episode 2 - Is Data Key To MSK Performance? - With Rhys Carter
·39m - 55
YouMatter Session 37 - Retire or Refire? with Siobhan Cowling
·1h 3m - 56
How Do We Solve Low Back Pain - Chewing It Over with Adam Dobson
·39m - 57
What Is A Community Access Day - Chewing It Over with Georgi Daluiso-King & Charlotte Hayers
·53m - 58
Chewing Over High Performance Episode 1 - How Does Sport, Military And Healthcare Compare? With Fiona Sweny
·37m - 59
UpperLimb Masterclass in 2 weeks!
·2m - 60
YouMatter Session 36 - Clinician and Type 1 Diabetic with Felicity Thow
·1h 2m - 61
Culture First - A Journey From £0-£100 Million - Chewing It Over with Stuart Patterson
·1h 4m - 62
Chewing Over High Performance with Nicola Graham
·5m - 63
What Is An Inclusive Fitness Coach? - Chewing It Over with Emily Kramer Throckmorton
·29m - 64
Why Should MSK Therapists Care About Breasts? - Chewing It Over with Siobhan O'Donovan
·42m - 65
Retirement Reflections With The Outgoing CEO Of The CSP - Chewing It Over with Karen Middleton
·1h 16m - 66
YouMatter Session 34 - ChewMatter with Jack Chew
·1h - 67
MSKMag Is Here! What A Giant Step Backwards This Is...
·17m - 68
YouMatter Session 33 - Creating Work Environments That Work For People With Neurodiversity with Karli Gibson
·1h 16m - 69
Is MSK Care Low Value - Chewing It Over with Nicola Graham
·43m - 70
What And When Should We Inject Into An Osteoarthritic Knee - With Bilal Barkatali And Eos Active
·1h 10m - 71
Have MSK Clinicians Been Complacent In Dismissing Hyaluronic Acid - Chewing It Over with Jim Carr and EOS Active
·33m - 72
YouMatter - Session 32 My life as a Neuro-Spicy Physiotherapist with Karli Gibson
·59m - 73
Session 103 - Medial Offloader Knee Braces with Giles Leeming and Ossur
·1h 3m - 74
Rheum101 Agenda Reveal!
·7m - 75
What's A Male Personal Trainer Doing Weighing In On Menopause - Chewing It Over with Zack Cahill
·37m - 76
YouMatter Session 31 - I OWN A Business, Not I AM The Business with Helen Preston and Nicola Graham
·1h 9m - 77
YouMatter Session 30 - Visibility For The Happily Invisible with Sara Price
·1h - 78
Trauma Informed Care - Chewing It Over with Jess Mather
·39m - 79
Spinal Care Masterclass - LAST CHANCE TICKETS
·3m - 80
Non-Medical Consultants on Medical Consultant Rotas Controversy! Chewing It Over
·15m - 81
Society Of Musculoskeletal Medicine SOMM - Chewing It Over with Johnny Smith
·40m - 82
YouMatter Session 29 - Conflicted Clinicians On Conflict with Celia Champion
·56m - 83
Am I Worthy Of Imposter Syndrome? - Chewing It Over with Katie Bell
·26m - 84
YouMatter Session 28 - Anger, What Are You Going To Do About It? with Dave James
·1h 10m - 85
Session 102 - Cognitive Functional Therapy: The RESTORE Trial with Peter O'Sullivan and Peter Kent
·1h 30m - 86
Paralympic Classification - Chewing It Over with Ritchie Barber
·36m - 87
Scoliosis Is Being Ignored! - Chewing It Over with Katrina Lake
·24m - 88
Whole Body Vibration by Physios AND S&C Coaches? - Chewing It Over with Claire Minshull
·23m - 89
Are Steroid Injections For OA Evil? - Chewing It Over With Nick Livadas
·22m - 90
Communication Illumination - Chewing It Over with Ben Whybrow
·21m - 91
Instantly Improve Your MSK Rehab - Chewing It Over with Ian Gatt
·19m - 92
Low Density Bone, High Intensity Exercise - Chewing It Over with Belinda Beck
·21m - 93
Zooming Out Of Insoles For Plantarfasciitis - Chewing It Over with Alex Murray
·33m - 94
It Is Brilliant To Be A Generalist - Chewing It Over with Katie Knapton
·18m - 95
Long Covid Rehab Clinics - Chewing It Over with Tim Allardyce
·19m - 96
The Psychology Of Behaviour Change - Chewing It Over with Serena Simmons
·18m - 97
Behaviour Change Tips - Chewing It Over with Orla O'Doherty
·23m - 98
Imaging Hips - Chewing It Over with Katie O'Bright
·24m - 99
YouMatter Session 27 - The Quiet Clinician with Joanna Rawbone
·48m - 100
The Rheumatology Physio Podcast - Your SpAce with Zoe Clark
·17m - 101
A Collaborative View For Industry Support - Chewing It Over with Jim Carr | Eos Active
Hidden gemThe Physio Matters Podcast host Jack interviews Jim Carr, founder of EOS Active, a UK MSK product distributor, on building patient-pathway-centred commercial strategy.
Apr 19, 2026·36m·2 clips - 102
That AI Physio Service - Chewing It Over with Finn Stevenson
Hidden gemIn this Physio Matters Chewing It Over episode, host Jack interviews Finn Stevenson, CEO of Flock Health, about the company's AI-driven MSK physiotherapy service deployed across 11 NHS areas in England.
Apr 5, 2026·52m·3 clips - 103
A View From The Top - Chewing It Over with Andrew Walton
A physiotherapy podcast discussing controversial takes on mediocrity and lack of ambition in MSK practice.
Mar 22, 2026·43m - 104
Scars And Their Management - Chewing It Over with Hannah Poulton
A physiotherapy podcast episode discussing the relevance of scars to musculoskeletal therapists, covering scar formation, impact on fascia and body systems.
Mar 15, 2026·50m - 105
Which Dynamometer Is Best? Chewing It Over with Claire Minshull
A discussion on selecting dynamometers for physiotherapy practice, focusing on measurement science and clinical decision-making.
Mar 1, 2026·58m - 106
Real Growth - Chewing It Over with Andy Thomas
Hidden gemHost Jack interviews Andy Thomas, founder and CEO of PhysEquip and host of a 200-episode physio industry podcast, about his new book Real Growth: Insights from Leaders in Sport, Healthcare, and Business.
Feb 18, 2026·31m·2 clips - 107
The Return To Work Mentor - Chewing It Over with Heather Mclellan
Feb 15, 2026·34m - 108
Unreasonable Adjustments Discussed/Disgust - Chewing It Over with Rosi Sexton
Feb 11, 2026·57m - 109
What Has Changed For Lower Back Pain - Chewing It Over with David Evans
Hidden gemIn this Physio Matters Chewing It Over episode, host Jack interviews Dr David Evans about his 20-year follow-up study comparing what physiotherapists, osteopaths, and chiropractors do for acute low back pain, originally conducted as part of his PhD under Nadine Foster at Keele University in 2003 and repeated 20 years later.
Feb 8, 2026·42m·2 clips - 110
Buying And Selling MSK Clinics - Chewing It Over with Joshua Catlett
Feb 4, 2026·34m - 111
Does Physio Have A Future - Chewing It Over with Sue Julians
Jan 25, 2026·35m - 112
Pain Coaching | What Is That?? - Chewing It Over with Richmond Stace
Jan 25, 2026·40m - 113
The Women's Football Hub - Chewing It Over with Carolyn Kent
Hidden gemCarolyn Kent, physiotherapist and academic at Queen Margaret University Edinburgh, joins The Physio Matters Podcast to discuss the Women's Football Hub she co-founded with Lindsay Patton Donaldson and Susan Anderson.
Jan 11, 2026·49m·3 clips - 114
Why Should We Measure Things In Clinic with Athan Kollias and Kinvent
Oct 26, 2025·35m - 115
Physio Matters and Physiquipe Partnership Launch Podcast
Oct 19, 2025·25m - 116
Is My Patient Happy - YouMatter with Joanne Elphinston
Sep 14, 2025·30m - 117
Optimising Cliniko with Jack Chew and Rob Beaven
Aug 31, 2025·48m - 118
Sore Young Knees - Claire Robertson & Tom Jacobs - Chewing it Over
May 28, 2025·44m - 119
AI In Physio The CSPs Guidance Doc with Ash James
May 14, 2025·40m - 120
Coaching Unpeeled - Chewing It Over With Jo Turner and Jo Elphinston
May 8, 2025·38m - 121
Ascenti Shaped Elephants - Chewing It Over 30/04/2025
Apr 30, 2025·32m - 122
Mindful Strides: A Modern Approach To Treating Runners YouMatter With Matt Phillips
Apr 13, 2025·56m - 123
Clinical Researcher: Why Would You? Why Wouldn't You? YouMatter Session 48 with Katherine McNabb, Gillian Campbell, Virginia Rivers Bulkeley
A panel discussion with physiotherapists who combine clinical work with research, exploring clinician wellbeing and its impact on patient care.
Mar 19, 2025·56m - 124
YouMatter Session 47 - Finding Belongingwith Adam Siu
Feb 9, 2025·49m - 125
Physio First Matters! - Chewing It Over with Katie Knapton
Feb 6, 2025·32m - 126
MSK Business Reflections with Celia Champion - Chewing It Over 22/01/2025
Jan 26, 2025·44m - 127
Artificial Intelligance In MSK - Chewing It Over 15/01/2025
Jan 21, 2025·34m - 128
07/05/25 - Coaching Unpeeled - Chewing it Over
Dec 3, 2024·54m - 129
Knowing Why You Do What You Do AND Why That Matters - YouMatter Session 45 with Tom Jacobs
Nov 10, 2024·48m - 130
Why Should MSK Therapists Care About The Environment? Chewing It Over with Jen McNesfield
Oct 20, 2024·38m - 131
Osteoarthritis Masterclass with Jack March and Jim Carr
Oct 16, 2024·18m - 132
Beyond The Bench (Part 2) : Physiotherapists' Career Shifts - YouMatter Session 44
Oct 13, 2024·1h 22m - 133
Why Should We Be Bothered About The Menopause?! with Phillipa Butler
A physiotherapy podcast discussing the importance of addressing menopause in clinical care.
Sep 29, 2024·35m - 134
The High Performance Series And What's Next with Nicola Graham - Chewing It Over
Sep 22, 2024·46m - 135
YouMatter Session 43 - Beyond the Bench: Physiotherapists' Career Shifts
Sep 8, 2024·1h 20m - 136
Session 104 - Obesity - It’s Relevance In MSK And Beyond with Jennifer James
Aug 25, 2024·1h 23m - 137
Why Should Medicine Lean Into Wellness - Chewing It Over High Performance with George Bownes
Aug 18, 2024·47m - 138
YouMatter Session 42 - Improving The Quality Of Our Services Benefits Us As Well As Our Patients with Jo Kitchen
Aug 11, 2024·47m - 139
Session 103 - Exploring Beautiful Movement with Joanne Elphinston
Aug 4, 2024·1h 21m - 140
What Does Entrepreneurship Mean? Chewing Over High Performance with Peter Grinbergs
Jul 21, 2024·45m - 141
YouMatter Session 41 - Have You Been Told You Are Too Sensitive?with Becki -Taylor-Smith
Jul 14, 2024·53m - 142
What We Should Know About Perimenopause - Chewing It Over with Claire Callaghan
Jun 30, 2024·29m - 143
Chief Executive Officer Of The CSP - Who Wants That Job? Chewing It Over with John Cowman
Jun 16, 2024·59m - 144
Chewing Over High Performance Episode 5 - What Is Your Strategy With Joshua Catlett
Jun 16, 2024·37m - 145
Therapy Live 2024 News!
Jun 5, 2024·3m - 146
Are Desks And Desk Postures Affecting Our Health - Chewing It Over with Michael O'Reilly
A physiotherapy podcast discussing the impact of desk posture on health, featuring an interview with Michael O'Reilly about information age syndrome.
May 26, 2024·42m - 147
Chewing Over High Performance Episode 4 - Who Is The Customer In Healthcare with Angela Shott
May 19, 2024·41m - 148
YouMatter Session 39 - Clinician And Writer with Thomas Jesson
May 12, 2024·54m - 149
What Is The Point Of Shockwave - Chewing It Over with Dominic Smith
May 5, 2024·31m