Jannah Patchay & Elise Soucie Watts
19 episodes listed below
Frontier technology, seen at civilizational scale.
The Outside Context treats technology as a civilizational force, not just a product category. Jana and Elise speak with people working near technological change about AI, digital identity, blockchain, defense, sovereignty, and the new geography of power.
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The Outside Context is a technology show built around the moments when familiar systems stop being enough. Jana and Elise use that premise to examine AI, digital identity, blockchain, venture capital, cyber resilience, and the politics of digital infrastructure. The show thinks in layers. A conversation about machine learning becomes a discussion of labor markets, inflationary and deflationary pressure, data-center buildouts, power generation, and the risk that only a handful of capital-intensive models dominate. A conversation about identity becomes a sharper look at fraud, data breaches, data monetization, and the tension between convenience and personal control. The blockchain and DeFi episodes are framed through networks, investment, decentralization, and the future role of venture capital. The geopolitics material widens the lens further. Compute, data, and digital systems are treated as strategic assets, closer to oil or ships than to ordinary software features. That gives the show a distinctive seriousness. It is not only asking what a technology can do. It is asking who gains leverage, who absorbs risk, what institutions can govern the shift, and what happens when private technology companies become geopolitical actors. The pacing often starts conversationally, with personal outside context moment openings, then settles into long-form policy and market analysis. Guests bring the vocabulary of macroeconomics, venture investing, academia, defense, and identity infrastructure. The result is measured rather than flashy. It rewards listeners who can sit with uncertainty, competing incentives, and second-order consequences. For a category often crowded with startup optimism or crypto defensiveness, The Outside Context is more structural. It treats emerging technology as a pressure test for economies, governments, and individual agency. The best episodes make abstract systems feel immediate without shrinking their complexity.
Made for: For listeners who follow AI, digital identity, blockchain, venture capital, and geopolitics as connected systems. It suits founders, investors, policy-minded technologists, and curious generalists who want strategic context more than product chatter.
What sets it apart: The show ties frontier tech to governance, markets, defense, sovereignty, and human resilience in the same conversation. Its strength is treating compute, data, identity, and decentralized networks as sources of power, not isolated trends.
"An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilizations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop." — Iain M. Banks, Excession. This podcast discusses challenges that fall into the outside context with the innovators and visionaries who are the forefront of technological change. It considers the big picture of technology, and why this matters for the future of human civilisation.
This is where an NFC manicure meets digital sovereignty, and you get the business case behind both.
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A grounded look at how technology, sovereignty, and security now overlap.
This episode treats tech power as a practical asset, not a slogan. Jana and Elise speak with Melanie Garson about digital sovereignty, cyber resilience, the future of warfare, and the way tech companies now move through geopolitics as real actors.
A macro view of AI that spends more time on capital than code.
The Outside Context uses episode 14 to treat AI as an economic force rather than a technical novelty. Jana and Elise speak with Elliot Hentov about how the technology could ripple through the economy in both the short and long term, from the sectors most likely to feel pressure…
Digital identity here is really about ownership, incentives, and trust.
The Outside Context episode with Seema Kinder-Johnson of Nuggets keeps coming back to a simple tension: who owns digital identity, who benefits from it, and who gets left out. It makes a steady case for self-sovereign identity, but it does not treat that as a slogan.
Water tech, with teeth and numbers.
Consumer brand strategy without the gloss.
Southern startups, capital, and conviction.
Loose, opinionated hallway talk about AI products and craft.
The Outside Context brings Melanie Garson, an associate professor at UCL and former senior adviser at the Tony Blair Institute, into a season-two conversation about tech geopolitics.
Jana and Elise interview Elliot Hentov, chief macro policy strategist at State Street Investment Management, about AI's impact on productivity, labor, and capital allocation.
The Outside Context episode features Rob Haddock, a general partner at Dragonfly, describing his path from Goldman and fintech banking into crypto-focused venture capital.
Seema Kinder-Johnson, co-founder and COO of Nuggets, joins Jana and Elise on The Outside Context to connect digital identity, data breaches, and AI-era verification.
The Outside Context interviews Leah Winberg, founder and CEO of Chipped Social, about NFC-enabled press-on nails that share social profiles through a phone tap.
Khan Ross, who resigned from the British Foreign Office in 2004 after giving secret evidence to an inquiry into the Iraq war, tells The Outside Context that falling support for democracy stems from inequality and a vote "every five years." He contrasts Taiwan's Audrey Tang, who uses technology for mass participation, with AI-enabled surveillance by corporations and governments.
Tokenovate CEO Richard Baker tells hosts Jana Pache and Elise Susi-Watts that smart cities start with practical upgrades such as replacing sodium streetlights with connected LEDs carrying 5G, Wi-Fi and sensors.