The First 40 Miles: Hiking and Backpacking Podcast

Heather Legler

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If you're new to backpacking, or if you’re hopelessly in love with someone who wants you to love backpacking, then this podcast is for you. We’ll talk about the essentials, how to lighten your load, and how to make the most of your time on the trail.

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Based on 4 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Heather Legler and Josh Legler turn backpacking know-how into warm, practical conversations about gear, play, health, family, and simplicity.

Heather Legler and Josh Legler treat backpacking as a collection of decisions that can be talked through, tested, and occasionally laughed at.

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Heather and Josh turn trail pebbles into a game; your pack gets no heavier.

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  • to bring a game on your next backpacking trip without packing a board or cards
  • to hear how time outside has changed the way Heather and Josh think about health and crowded schedules
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214: The Final Episode

A quiet farewell that keeps its focus on the trail.

This closing episode of The First 40 Miles turns a farewell into a plainspoken trail talk. Heather and Josh mark the show's four-year anniversary and final episode, trade ideas for outdoor podcasts they would like to hear, and keep circling back to the same steady aim: helping…

213: Health Benefits of Backpacking

A calm case for backpacking as whole-life medicine, with trail sense and a faint penultimate-episode ache.

Backpacking is framed as a full-life practice, not just a weekend hobby. Heather and Josh speak with the easy certainty of people who have spent enough time on trails to see outdoor time reach into the body, the mind, relationships, and faith.

213: Health Benefits of Backpacking

A gentle trail case for why getting outside changes more than your legs.

Episode 213 frames backpacking as more than a pastime, linking health, simplicity, friendship, and spiritual well-being in a trail-centered argument.

212: PLAY: Games on the Trail

Trail games, easy banter, and a reminder that play belongs on the path too.

Episode 212 keeps its focus on trail games and settles into a loose, practical, slightly goofy groove as Heather Legler and Josh Legler move through five quick ways to make backpacking feel more playful.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    214: The Final Episode

    Episode 214 says goodbye.

    ·42m
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    213: Health Benefits of Backpacking

    Hidden gem

    Episode 213 makes the case for backpacking without overselling it.

    ·25m
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    212: PLAY: Games on the Trail

    Episode 212 keeps play loose and light.

    ·25m·5 clips
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    213: Health Benefits of Backpacking

    Episode 213 of The First 40 Miles centers on the health benefits of backpacking, with Heather Legler and Josh Legler framing the trail as a gateway to better sleep, lower stress, and clearer thinking.

    ·25m·1 clip
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    212: PLAY: Games on the Trail

    Episode 212 of The First 40 Miles presents five quick trail games: Fortune Cookie, Song Lyrics, Rotten Penny, Sync, and Walrus.

    Dec 4, 2018·25m·1 clip
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    211: Gear That Lasts the Miles

    Nov 27, 2018·22m
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    210: Battle of the Utensil

    Nov 20, 2018·22m
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    209: Hidden Messages in Your Gear

    Nov 13, 2018·28m
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    208: HEAVY: When You Can’t Carry the Load

    Nov 6, 2018·33m
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    207: Scary Stuff

    Oct 30, 2018·29m
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    206: Backpacking Dinner Challenge

    Oct 23, 2018·16m
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    205: Steve’s Trip Report

    Oct 16, 2018·22m
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    204: So, How Was Your Hike?

    Oct 9, 2018·23m
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    203: Pardon Our Dust

    Oct 2, 2018·16m
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    202: The Slow, Methodical Accumulation of Gear

    Sep 25, 2018·24m
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    201: Cowboy Camping

    Sep 18, 2018·28m
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    200: A Week on the Pacific Crest Trail

    Sep 11, 2018·16m
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    199: REFLECTIONS: The Four Year Anniversary of Our First Backpacking Trip Together

    Sep 4, 2018·32m
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    198: Rewired Backpacking Brain

    Aug 28, 2018·27m
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    197: Anxiety on the Trail

    Aug 21, 2018·25m
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    196: Lightning Safety

    Aug 14, 2018·29m
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    195: A LONG HIKE: Prepping for a Weeklong Trip

    Aug 7, 2018·31m