The Drive Program is an interview show hosted by Tom Driver, and several of its guests come from his own life. Coach Brown, who also goes by Wheezy, went to school with him, belonged to the same fraternity and was his roommate one summer. Hafiz Bhuyan knew him through the Society of Entrepreneurs, a club at JMU, and then answered an Instagram post looking for history enthusiasts willing to record. That closeness sets the tone. The conversations are informal and quick to leave the stated topic behind. The range is wide. Episode titles cover hip-hop, digital art and NFTs; coaching and spirituality; yoga, breathing, cinematography and investing; startups, history, leadership and tech; and teaching in China and military school. Juice Bruns, a rapper and digital artist, talks about his creative process and about stepping back from music when COVID hit. He also describes an Instagram message from a man in Copenhagen who had heard one of his songs. Coach Brown explains his push-up mentality: when he catches himself watching too much TV, he drops and does a few push-ups. He also describes how coaching kids in soccer made him want to be more of a coach in the rest of his life. Some of the best moments are unplanned. In the episode with two guests named Sai, a yoga instructor called Kalyan leads a breathing exercise with a straw, and afterward the host admits that his running list of questions has gone blank. The conversation with Hafiz covers his company, Drivence, a blend of 'driven' and 'excellence', and also how much the humble screw changed what people could build. James Driver remembers being asked, on a trip downstairs for a snack, whether he would ever teach in China, and the conversation also turns to China's economic reach. That episode is the frankest here, with strong language and a candid look back at drinking, a rough stretch he connects to bank fraud and trusting the wrong person, and his current job at a bar. The show has a fitness side as well. One episode opens with a welcome to the Drive Fitness Program, and in it the host announces that the Drive Fitness app is out on Google Play and the Apple App Store and asks users to send feedback. He also plans to treat each new year as a new season with its own cover art and theme song, and jokes that because programmers count from zero, everything before was season zero. For a first listen, the breathing exercise with Kalyan shows the show at its most surprising. The Juice Bruns conversation shows how far a single episode can travel, from rap to digital art to Web3.