The Deep Edge Podcast

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Network architecture, measured against the business case

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Ray Mota talks with people from Cisco, Juniper Networks, Red Hat and Inseego about AI data center fabrics, the cloud metro, edge computing and 5G in the enterprise. Under the hardware talk runs a steady question about cost: what idle GPUs, service churn and manual operations do to the return on an investment.

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About The Deep Edge Podcast

The Deep Edge Podcast covers the infrastructure behind telecom and cloud services, and it keeps asking what that infrastructure costs. The host is Ray Mota, who introduces himself as being from ACG Research. His guests come from the companies building the equipment and software. That puts vendor strategy on the record firsthand, from people describing their own companies' products. Will Eatherton, an engineering leader at Cisco, is a good example. His conversation with Mota covers Cisco's AI strategy, its NVIDIA partnerships, Silicon One, SONiC and Hyperfabric. He also describes a 50-terabit chip with deep buffers, pitched at backbone and data center interconnect traffic. Other episodes move outside the data center. Julius Francis and Jai Thattil of Juniper Networks discuss the cloud metro. They contrast a traditional model built on devices, manual operation and individual know-how with one where operations shift toward service experience and cloud-delivered management. Ritesh Mukherjee, SVP and General Manager for Enterprise Networks at Inseego, returns for a question Mota puts plainly: is the industry ready to run 5G as the main line in SD-WAN designs rather than as a backup? One episode, with Livio Silva of Red Hat, is in Spanish. It lays out access and aggregation edge sites, MEC applications such as facial-recognition payments, and Red Hat OpenShift as a common platform from edge to core. The economics are what make the show distinctive. Ivan Melia of Cisco, another returning guest, walks through an economic study of MSX that weighs deployment size, domain complexity and churn, along with service lifecycle and day-two management. In the Juniper conversation, Mota offers to link papers with the TCO findings for anyone who wants more detail. Mota makes the sharpest version of the argument himself. In an episode on the economics of AI infrastructure, he points out that the GPU cluster, not the network, often takes the largest share of the investment. By his account, a fabric that leaves those GPUs idle causes an economic loss, not just a performance problem. He says operators are shifting from judging cost after a decision to modeling it beforehand, and he names economic digital twins as the tool for that. The tone is friendly and upbeat. Mota calls returning guests 'my friend' and praises one answer as 'spoken like a true technologist.' The vocabulary is dense: DCI, MEC, OSS and BSS, SD-WAN, OpenRAN. A good way in is to pair the Eatherton conversation with Mota's economics episode, which together cover the AI data center from both the engineering side and the financial side. Anyone closer to operator networks may get more from the Juniper metro discussion or the Spanish-language edge episode.

Made for: Suits a listener who plans, evaluates or buys network infrastructure for operators or large enterprises and wants the business case weighed alongside the architecture. It also suits someone comfortable with dense telecom vocabulary.

What sets it apart: It treats network design as an investment decision. Vendor-side guests from Cisco, Juniper Networks, Red Hat and Inseego talk with a host who keeps pressing on TCO, time to revenue and the cost of GPUs left idle by an underperforming fabric.

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The Deep Edge Podcast discusses technologies powering a cloud-native, fully connected world: Virtual and physical compute; virtual and physical networking; orchestration; mobile/wireless, wired; Internet of things; NFV; SDN; routing and switching; optical; cable; and hyper-scalers. We deliver the skills, insights, and materials to help our subscribers master their own transformations.

Why you'd press play

A backup 5G link applies for the main job; Ray Mota lets you hear the case.

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  • to hear an AI networking engineer wrestle with training jobs across data centers
  • to weigh a build-your-own SD-WAN service against an off-the-shelf package
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Cisco’s AI Networking Future: Will Eatherton on Silicon One, SONiC & Next-Gen Data CentersI Ep: 70Dec 1, 2025

Will Etherton connects AI's data-center demands to the network choices shaping infrastructure ownership.

Cisco's AI networking strategy sharpens through Will Etherton's account of the infrastructure sitting beneath training workloads. He links heavier AI traffic to pressure on front-end networks, backbones, and data-center interconnects, then sets Cisco's 50-terabit P200 chip, deep…

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Episodes

  1. 1

    The Economics of AI Infrastructure: From Network Cost to Capital Return I Ep: 71

    Ray Mota discusses the challenges and financial modeling tools for building next-generation AI data center networks.

    Apr 14, 2026·4m
  2. 2

    Cisco’s AI Networking Future: Will Eatherton on Silicon One, SONiC & Next-Gen Data CentersI Ep: 70

    Hidden gem

    ["Ray Mota of ACG Research hosts Cisco engineering leader Will Etherton on The Deep Edge Podcast for a technical interview about AI networking, Silicon One, SONiC, HyperFabric, and next-generation data centers.", "Etherton says he has worked in infrastructure since 1998, starting in silicon design on terabit switching chips before returning to Cisco after a startup acquisition.", "He breaks Cisco's AI strategy into AI-ready data centers, future-proof workplaces, and digital resiliency, with Cisco Cloud Control, AI Canvas, Splunk, and ThousandEyes all in the frame.", "The episode also drills into a five-year-plus NVIDIA partnership, 128-GPU enterprise starts, tens of kilometers of AI data-center connectivity, and the LPO-versus-CPO roadmap as the industry moves from 200-gig to 400-gig generations."]

    Dec 1, 2025·42m·3 clips
  3. 3

    The Hidden Economics of Your Netflix Stream I Ep: 69

    Aug 25, 2025·5m
  4. 4

    Managing Cloud Costs with Matt Biringer of North Cloud | Ep67

    Jul 29, 2025·34m
  5. 5

    Mplify’s Bold Rebrand & the Future of Network-as-a-Service w/Kevin Vachon | Ep68

    Jul 29, 2025·19m
  6. 6

    Stand with Dawit: Demand Fair Trial and Release for Ethiopia’s Visionary ISP Founder and US Citizen! Ep66

    May 1, 2025·48m
  7. 7

    AI Hype vs Reality: Strategic Blind Spots, Big Bets & Leadership Lessons with Jamie Dobson | Ep65

    Apr 30, 2025·51m
  8. 8

    Securing the AI Frontier: Cisco’s 2025 Threat Report Reveals Readiness Gaps | Ep64

    Apr 23, 2025·27m
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    Aliro: Quantum Security at the Edge: Turning Breakthroughs into Business Strategy | Ep63

    Apr 11, 2025·22m
  10. 10

    Powering AI’s Future Cologix & Consensus Core Unveil GPUaaS to Transform Digital Infrastructure | Ep 62

    Apr 2, 2025·21m
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    Navigating AI & Global Networking: Power, Bandwidth, and Data Center Evolution with Arelion | Ep 61

    Mar 11, 2025·17m
  12. 12

    Telco to Tech-co – Unlocking New Revenue with Network APIs & NaaS | Ep. 60

    Feb 25, 2025·26m
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    AI-Native Routing: Automation, Performance & Sustainability | AE, Juniper Networks | Ep. 59

    Feb 24, 2025·29m
  14. 14

    Cloud Revolution Unpacked: Ari Weil on Multi-Cloud, Edge AI & New Regulations | Episode 58

    Feb 8, 2025·37m
  15. 15

    Arrcus CEO Shekar Ayyar & Co-Founder and CTO Keyur Patel NVidia Partnership - Episode 57

    Jul 24, 2024·23m
  16. 16

    Juniper Networks CTO Raj Yavatkar discusses Beyond Labs - Episode 56

    Jul 16, 2023·14m
  17. 17

    ACG Research Broadband Access Transformation (BBAT) Practice - Episode 55

    Mar 25, 2023·30m
  18. 18

    How CSPs Can Leverage Data-Driven Insights to Increase Profits - Episode 54

    Oct 27, 2022·28m
  19. 19

    Juniper Networks Brendan Gibbs discusses Cloud Metro for Sustainable Business Growth - Episode 53

    Aug 29, 2022·19m
  20. 20

    Ribbon CEO Bruce McClelland discuss vision and telco cloud - Episode 50

    Aug 4, 2022·16m
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    Juniper Networks Julius Francis & Jai Thattil discuss the Cloud Metro space - Episode 52

    Hidden gem

    Juniper Networks executives Julius Francis and Jaya Dattil frame the metro as a new edge where connectivity, cloud hosting, and service experience converge.

    Jul 21, 2022·20m·1 clip
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    A look at Segment Routing MPLS adoption and the upcoming SRv6 wave with Ciena’s Jahanzeb Baqai – Episode 51

    Jul 10, 2022·25m
  23. 23

    Seceon Chandra Pandey talks about RSA and Cyber Trends - Episode 49

    Jun 9, 2022·16m
  24. 24

    inseego Ritesh Mukherjee SVP/GM Enterprise Networks discuss 5G - Episode 48

    Hidden gem

    Ray Moda interviews Ritesh Mukherjee, SVP and General Manager of Enterprise Networks at Inseego, about enterprise 5G, wireless WANs, private 5G, and distributed work.

    Mar 16, 2022·22m·1 clip
  25. 25

    Arrcus CEO Shekar Ayyar & Co-Founder and CTO Keyur Patel discuss ACE - Episode 46

    Feb 27, 2022·35m
  26. 26

    Palo Alto Networks - Prisma Cloud for SPs with Ivan Melia - Episode 45

    Feb 23, 2022·13m
  27. 27

    ACG with CEO Staffan Göjeryd and VP Strategy Johan Ottosson from Arelion - Episode 47

    A webinar discussing the growing demand for reliable, secure bandwidth and hybrid work strategies in the telecom industry.

    Feb 22, 2022·27m
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    First Spanish Podcast with Livio Silva from Red Hat Discusses the Edge - Episode 44

    Hidden gem

    Ray Mota interviews Red Hat chief architect Livio Tulio Silver Méndez about 5G, Multi-access Edge Computing, and telecom operators’ search for new revenue.

    Oct 19, 2021·34m·2 clips
  29. 29

    Economic Benefits of MSX with Ivan Melia from Cisco - Episode 43

    Oct 13, 2021·12m
  30. 30

    ACG FireSide Chat with Turnium Technology Group Inc. Episode 42

    Jeff Holton explains how SD-WAN automates encrypted, multi-site connectivity more efficiently than manually managed VPNs.

    Jun 4, 2021·35m·2 clips
  31. 31

    Experience-First Networking with Rami Rahim - CEO Juniper Networks - Episode 41

    Jun 3, 2021·21m
  32. 32

    Optimizing the cloud for digital transformation with Mike O’Malley, SVP, SenecaGlobal - Episode 40

    Jun 1, 2021·19m
  33. 33

    It’s never been a better time for BNG to move to the cloud - Episode 39

    May 25, 2021·27m
  34. 34

    Comprehensive Cybersecurity for Digital-Era with Chandra Pandey from Seceon - Episode 38

    May 7, 2021·25m
  35. 35

    Automating 5G Access Deployments - Episode 37

    Apr 22, 2021·20m
  36. 36

    Monetizing the telecommunications network edge with Ian Hood from Red Hat - Episode 36

    Apr 19, 2021·21m
  37. 37

    Intelligent Ingresses to the Multi-cloud with Adam Dunstan from acnodal.io - Episode 35

    Apr 6, 2021·16m
  38. 38

    Changing the economics of IP and Optical networks with a special guest Bill Gartner from Cisco Systems - Episode 34

    Mar 16, 2021·20m
  39. 39

    Market dynamic for wholesale xHaul with a special guess Mattias Fridström from Telia Carrier - Episode 33

    Feb 27, 2021·27m
  40. 40

    Head of Business Development, Cisco Managed Services Software Ivan Melia - Episode 32

    Feb 16, 2021·14m
  41. 41

    Arrcus Founder and CTO Keyur Patel and Thoughtspot CDO Sumeet Arora - Episode 31

    Feb 10, 2021·23m
  42. 42

    ACG's Rick Talbot Talks about xHaul - Episode 30

    Feb 4, 2021·19m
  43. 43

    Cloud Economics Assessment Model Juniper Networks Sr Director Ben Baker Episode 29

    Jan 29, 2021·11m
  44. 44

    Autonomous Networks – Why and Why Now? - Episode 28

    Jan 13, 2021·26m
  45. 45

    Telia Carrier's CEO Staffan Göjeryd - Episode 27

    Nov 18, 2020·29m
  46. 46

    ACG DCO Research Introduction with Dr. Mark Mortensen & Paul Parker-Johnson (PJ) - Episode 26

    Nov 17, 2020·24m
  47. 47

    Arrcus Founder and CTO Keyur Patel and Dave Ward CEO of Packet Fabric - Episode 25

    Nov 5, 2020·36m
  48. 48

    Infoblox CEO and President Jesper Andersen - Episode 24

    Oct 20, 2020·19m
  49. 49

    DriveNets Amir Krayden talks about Disaggregation - Episode 23

    Oct 12, 2020·11m
  50. 50

    LATAM Telco trends with Juan Carlos Zerón from Red Hat - Episode 22

    Oct 2, 2020·26m