"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz

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A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

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  1. 1

    AI's Energy & Water Demands: Sorting Fact from Fiction with Andy Masley

    ·2h 4m
  2. 2

    Training the AIs' Eyes: How Roboflow is Making the Real World Programmable, with CEO Joseph Nelson

    ·1h 56m
  3. 3

    Success without Dignity? Nathan finds Hope Amidst Chaos, from The Intelligence Horizon Podcast

    ·1h 45m
  4. 4

    Scaling Intelligence Out: Cisco's Vision for the Internet of Cognition, with Vijoy Pandey

    ·1h 36m
  5. 5

    Your Agent's Self-Improving Swiss Army Knife: Composio CTO Karan Vaidya on Building Smart Tools

    ·1h 39m
  6. 6

    Zvi's Mic Works! Recursive Self-Improvement, Live Player Analysis, Anthropic vs DoW + More!

    ·3h 27m
  7. 7

    Education in the AI Age: a Teacher Rethinks Learning & Purpose, w/ Johan Falk of Graspable AI

    ·1h 52m
  8. 8

    The Customer Service Revolution: Building Fin, with Eoghan McCabe & Fergal Reid of Intercom

    ·1h 34m
  9. 9

    Training an AI Scientist with Feedback from Reality, w- Liam Fedus & Ekin Dogus Cubuk (from a16z)

    ·1h 1m
  10. 10

    Emad Mostaque on The Last Economy: 1000 Days to Reimagine Work, Value & Human Purpose

    ·2h 16m
  11. 11

    Stripe's Payments Foundation Model: How Data & Infra Create Compounding Advantage, w/ Emily Sands

    ·1h 21m
  12. 12

    AI Scouting Report: the Good, Bad, & Weird @ the Law & AI Certificate Program, by LexLab, UC Law SF

    ·1h 17m
  13. 13

    Bioinfohazards: Jassi Pannu on Controlling Dangerous Data from which AI Models Learn

    ·1h 43m
  14. 14

    Try this at Home: Jesse Genet on OpenClaw Agents for Homeschool & How to Live Your Best AI Life

    ·2h 6m
  15. 15

    Don't Fight Backprop: Goodfire's Vision for Intentional Design, w/ Dan Balsam & Tom McGrath

    ·1h 47m
  16. 16

    Situational Awareness in Government, with UK AISI Chief Scientist Geoffrey Irving

    ·2h 19m
  17. 17

    Universal Medical Intelligence: OpenAI's Plan to Elevate Human Health, with Karan Singhal

    ·2h 1m
  18. 18

    Intelligence with Everyone: RL @ MiniMax, with Olive Song, from AIE NYC & Inference by Turing Post

    ·55m
  19. 19

    Mathematical Superintelligence: Harmonic's Vlad & Tudor on IMO Gold & Theories of Everything

    ·1h 31m
  20. 20

    Approaching the AI Event Horizon? Part 2, w/ Abhi Mahajan, Helen Toner, Jeremie Harris, @8teAPi

    ·2h 23m
  21. 21

    Approaching the AI Event Horizon? Part 1, w/ James Zou, Sam Hammond, Shoshannah Tekofsky, @8teAPi

    ·1h 32m
  22. 22

    AGI-Pilled Cyber Defense: Automating Digital Forensics w/ Asymmetric Security CEO Alexis Carlier

    ·1h 16m
  23. 23

    Infinite Code Context: AI Coding at Enterprise Scale w/ Blitzy CEO Brian Elliott & CTO Sid Pardeshi

    ·1h 57m
  24. 24

    The AI-Powered Biohub: Why Mark Zuckerberg & Priscilla Chan are Investing in Data, from Latent.Space

    ·1h 2m
  25. 25

    AI & The Law: Changing Practice, Claude Constitution, & New Rights, w/ Kevin & Alan of Scaling Laws

    ·1h 37m
  26. 26

    The Internet Computer: Caffeine.ai CEO Dominic Williams on Unstoppable, Self-Writing Software

    ·2h 11m
  27. 27

    AMA Part 2: Is Fine-Tuning Dead? How Am I Preparing for AGI? Are We Headed for UBI? & More!

    ·2h 24m
  28. 28

    Pioneering PAI: How Daniel Miessler's Personal AI Infrastructure Activates Human Agency & Creativity

    ·2h 28m
  29. 29

    Bringing AI to Data: Agent Design, Text-2-SQL, RAG, & more, w- Snowflake VP of AI Baris Gultekin

    ·1h 39m
  30. 30

    AMA Part 1: Is Claude Code AGI? Are we in a bubble? Plus Live Player Analysis

    ·1h 55m
  31. 31

    Confronting the Intelligence Curse, w/ Luke Drago of Workshop Labs, from the FLI Podcast

    ·1h 16m
  32. 32

    China's AI Upstarts: How Z.ai Builds, Benchmarks & Ships in Hours, from ChinaTalk

    ·1h 23m
  33. 33

    Controlling Tools or Aligning Creatures? Emmett Shear (Softmax) & Séb Krier (GDM), from a16z Show

    ·1h 16m
  34. 34

    The Great Security Update: AI ∧ Formal Methods with Kathleen Fisher of RAND & Byron Cook of AWS

    ·1h 39m
  35. 35

    AI 2025 → 2026 Live Show | Part 2

    ·1h 40m
  36. 36

    AI 2025 → 2026 Live Show | Part 1

    ·1h 55m
  37. 37

    Calm AI for Crazy Days: Inside Granola's Design Philosophy, with co-founder Sam Stephenson

    ·1h 34m
  38. 38

    Superintelligence: To Ban or Not to Ban? Max Tegmark & Dean Ball join Liron Shapira on Doom Debates

    ·2h 1m
  39. 39

    Underwriting Superintelligence: How AIUC is using Insurance, Standards, and Audits to Accelerate Adoption while Minimizing Risks

    ·1h 14m
  40. 40

    AI-Led Sales: How 1Mind's Superhumans Drive Exponential Growth, from the Agents of Scale Podcast

    ·51m
  41. 41

    What AI Means for Students & Teachers: My Keynote from the Michigan Virtual AI Summit

    ·1h 5m
  42. 42

    Escaping AI Slop: How Atlassian Gives AI Teammates Taste, Knowledge, & Workflows, w- Sherif Mansour

    ·1h 40m
  43. 43

    AI in the Cancer Journey: How I'm Using AI to Help My Son

    ·2h 3m
  44. 44

    My Positive Vision for the AI Future, from the Existential Hope Podcast

    ·1h 10m
  45. 45

    What is Catholic AI? Technology Meets Theology, with Matthew Harvey Sanders, CEO of Longbeard

    ·1h 54m
  46. 46

    More Truthful AIs Report Conscious Experience: New Mechanistic Research w- Cameron Berg @ AE Studio

    ·2h 24m
  47. 47

    A Simulationship with AI, with *smiles and kisses you* Star Chris Stokes & Director Bryan Carberry

    ·1h 50m
  48. 48

    Is AI Stalling Out? Cutting Through Capabilities Confusion, w/ Erik Torenberg, from the a16z Podcast

    ·1h 38m
  49. 49

    A Positive Vision for the Future: Part 2 with Illia Polosukhin of NEAR

    ·1h 28m
  50. 50

    Always Bet on the Models: How Tasklet Puts the Agency in Agents, with CEO Andrew Lee

    ·2h 13m
  51. 51

    Chinese AI – They're Just Like Us? With Beijing-Based Concordia AI CEO Brian Tse

    ·2h 45m
  52. 52

    AI Discovered Antibiotics: How Small Data & Small GNNs Led to Big Results, w/ MIT Prof. Jim Collins

    ·1h 25m
  53. 53

    Full-Stack AI Safety: Why Defense-in-Depth Might Work, with Far.AI CEO Adam Gleave

    ·1h 27m
  54. 54

    Can We Stop AI Deception? Apollo Research Tests OpenAI's Deliberative Alignment, w/ Marius Hobbhahn

    ·2h 9m
  55. 55

    User-Owned AI: On-Chain Training, Inference, and Agents, with NEAR's Illia Polosukhin

    ·1h 33m
  56. 56

    Coaching the Creators: Inside the Minds Building Frontier AI with Executive Coach Joe Hudson

    ·1h 45m
  57. 57

    Zvi Mowshowitz on Longer Timelines, RL-induced Doom, and Why China is Refusing H20s

    ·3h 13m
  58. 58

    Material Abundance: Radical AI’s Closed-Loop Lab Automates Scientific Discovery

    ·1h 55m
  59. 59

    Untangling Neural Network Mechanisms: Goodfire's Lee Sharkey on Parameter-based Interpretability

    ·2h 2m
  60. 60

    What if Humans Weaponize Superintelligence, w/ Tom Davidson, from Future of Life Institute Podcast

    ·2h 4m
  61. 61

    The AI Whistleblower Initiative: Supporting AGI Insiders When It Matters Most, w/ founder Karl Koch

    ·1h 51m
  62. 62

    Autonomous Organizations: Vending Bench & Beyond, w/ Lukas Petersson & Axel Backlund of Andon Labs

    ·1h 49m
  63. 63

    Dean W. Ball on America's AI Action Plan & 4 Months at the White House

    ·3h 14m
  64. 64

    Jake Sullivan on Navigating AI Uncertainty and Managing Competition with China

    ·1h 13m
  65. 65

    Sovereign AI: Geopolitical Strategy & Industrial Policy for Countries 3-193, with Anjney Midha, a16z

    ·1h 43m
  66. 66

    The Revolution in Services: General Catalyst's AI Rollup Strategy, with Marc Bhargava

    ·1h 24m
  67. 67

    Private Governance: Creating a Market in AI Regulation, with Dr. Gillian Hadfield & Andrew Freedman

    ·1h 53m
  68. 68

    The Dawn of Dynamic AI: RFT Comes Online, w/ Predibase CEO Dev Rishi, from Inference by Turing Post

    ·36m
  69. 69

    The Data Factory: Inside the $100B Race for Post-Training Supremacy, with Labelbox CEO Manu Sharma

    ·1h 42m
  70. 70

    Cheat on Everything: Cluely's Vision for Always-On AI Assistance

    ·1h 20m
  71. 71

    The AI Village: Previewing the Giga-Agent Future with Adam Binksmith, Founder of AI Digest

    ·1h 25m
  72. 72

    402 Payment Required: a New Way for AI Agents to Pay, with Nemil Dalal, Dev Platform Lead @ Coinbase

    ·1h 22m
  73. 73

    2-Sigma in 2 Hours: How Alpha Schools are Using AI to Revolutionize Education

    ·1h 22m
  74. 74

    Living Lindy: a No-BS Conversation on AI Agents with Flo Crivello

    ·1h 25m
  75. 75

    Embryology of AI: How Training Data Shapes AI Development w/ Timaeus' Jesse Hoogland & Daniel Murfet

    ·1h 37m
  76. 76

    Embryology of AI: How Training Data Shapes AI Development w/ Timaeus' Jesse Hoogland & Daniel Murfet

    ·1h 45m
  77. 77

    AI Scouting Report: AI Agents -vs- Agentic AI, from Imagine AI Live

    ·38m
  78. 78

    The Decade of May 15-22, 2025: Google's 50X AI Growth & Transformation with Logan Kilpatrick

    ·1h 23m
  79. 79

    a16z on Protecting Little Tech: The Techno-Optimist AI Policy Agenda with Matt Perault, Head of AI Policy

    ·1h 1m
  80. 80

    Don't Make Mirror Life: Synthetic Biologist Kate Adamala on Risks & Responsibility

    ·2h
  81. 81

    What did Google's AI Co-Scientist "Discover"? The Human Scientists' POV, from the Podovirus podcast

    ·1h 11m
  82. 82

    Mechanistic Interpretability: Philosophy, Practice & Progress with Goodfire's Dan Balsam & Tom McGrath

    ·1h 50m
  83. 83

    The Perfect Substrate for AGI, with Replit CEO Amjad Masad

    ·58m
  84. 84

    The RAISE Act: Minimum Standards for Frontier AI Development, with NY Assembly Member Alex Bores

    ·1h 41m
  85. 85

    Gemini Robotics – AI for the Physical World, with Keerthana Gopalakrishnan and Ted Xiao of Google DeepMind

    ·1h 45m
  86. 86

    Titans: Neural Long-Term Memory for LLMs, with author Ali Behrouz

    ·2h 8m
  87. 87

    Luma Labs' Diffusion Revolution: from Dream Machine to Multimodal Worldsim - Amit Jain, Jiaming Song

    ·1h 17m
  88. 88

    OpenAI's Identity Crisis: History, Culture & Non-Profit Control with ex-employee Steven Adler

    ·2h
  89. 89

    OpenAI's Identity Crisis: History, Culture & Non-Profit Control with ex-employee Steven Adler

    ·2h 3m
  90. 90

    AI Control: Using Untrusted Systems Safely with Buck Shlegeris of Redwood Research, from the 80,000 Hours Podcast

    ·2h 26m
  91. 91

    Blueprint for AI Armageddon: Josh Clymer Imagines AI Takeover, from the Audio Tokens Podcast

    ·1h 59m
  92. 92

    Fiverr Goes All-In on AI: Empowering Creators, Not Replacing Them, with Micha Kaufman, CEO of Fiverr

    ·1h 40m
  93. 93

    Securing Superintelligence: National Security, Espionage & AI Control with Jeremie & Edouard Harris

    ·2h 7m
  94. 94

    Is o3 AGI? Zvi Mowshowitz on Early AI Takeoff, the Mechanize launch, Live Players, & Why p(doom) is Rising

    ·3h 5m
  95. 95

    Cracking the Medical Code: Why Cleveland Clinic Doctors Love Their Ambience Healthcare AI Scribe

    ·1h 29m
  96. 96

    Sovereign AI in Poland: Language Adaptation, Local Control & Cost Advantages with Marek Kozlowski

    ·1h 30m
  97. 97

    Liability for AI Harms: How Ancient Law Can Govern Frontier Technology Risk, with Prof Gabriel Weil

    ·2h 12m
  98. 98

    AI News Crossover: A Candid Chat with Liron Shapira of Doom Debates

    ·2h 27m
  99. 99

    In-AI Advertising: Better Answers for Users, Big Questions for Society, with ZeroClick's Ryan Hudson

    Interview with Ryan Hudson, founder of Zeroclick, about building a native advertising platform for AI systems to enable ad-supported free tiers.

    ·1h 51m
  100. 100

    Building & Scaling the AI Safety Research Community, with Ryan Kidd of MATS

    Interview with Ryan Kidd about the MATS AI safety research program, AGI timelines, and the state of AI safety.

    ·1h 54m
  101. 101

    Welcome to AI in the AM: RL for EE, Oversight w/out Nationalization, & the first AI-Run Retail Store

    Apr 15, 2026·2h 31m
  102. 102

    It's Crunch Time: Ajeya Cotra on RSI & AI-Powered AI Safety Work, from the 80,000 Hours Podcast

    Apr 11, 2026·3h 10m
  103. 103

    Calm AI for Crazy Days: Inside Granola's Design Philosophy, with co-founder Sam Stephenson

    Interview with Granola co-founder Sam Stevenson about designing AI products for mass market adoption.

    Apr 8, 2026·1h 34m
  104. 104

    Training the AIs' Eyes: How Roboflow is Making the Real World Programmable, with CEO Joseph Nelson

    Interview with RoboFlow CEO Joseph Nelson about the current state and challenges of computer vision, including model deployment and performance.

    Apr 4, 2026·1h 56m
  105. 105

    Success without Dignity? Nathan finds Hope Amidst Chaos, from The Intelligence Horizon Podcast

    Host Nathan Labenz discusses AI timelines, scaling laws, and the potential for singularity, sharing insights from his appearance on another podcast.

    Apr 1, 2026·1h 45m
  106. 106

    Scaling Intelligence Out: Cisco's Vision for the Internet of Cognition, with Vijoy Pandey

    Vijoy Pandey discusses bringing Cisco's distributed systems expertise to the challenges of frontier agentic AI systems, proposing an 'internet of cognition' for agent collaboration.

    Mar 25, 2026·1h 36m
  107. 107

    Your Agent's Self-Improving Swiss Army Knife: Composio CTO Karan Vaidya on Building Smart Tools

    Interview with Composio CTO about their platform enabling AI agents to access thousands of tools via a single interface.

    Mar 22, 2026·1h 39m
  108. 108

    Zvi's Mic Works! Recursive Self-Improvement, Live Player Analysis, Anthropic vs DoW + More!

    Mar 19, 2026·3h 27m
  109. 109

    AI Scouting Report: the Good, Bad, & Weird @ the Law & AI Certificate Program, by LexLab, UC Law SF

    Mar 16, 2026·1h 17m
  110. 110

    Bioinfohazards: Jassi Pannu on Controlling Dangerous Data from which AI Models Learn

    Mar 11, 2026·1h 43m
  111. 111

    Try this at Home: Jesse Genet on OpenClaw Agents for Homeschool & How to Live Your Best AI Life

    Mar 8, 2026·2h 6m
  112. 112

    Don't Fight Backprop: Goodfire's Vision for Intentional Design, w/ Dan Balsam & Tom McGrath

    Mar 5, 2026·1h 47m
  113. 113

    Situational Awareness in Government, with UK AISI Chief Scientist Geoffrey Irving

    Mar 1, 2026·2h 19m
  114. 114

    Universal Medical Intelligence: OpenAI's Plan to Elevate Human Health, with Karan Singhal

    Feb 25, 2026·2h 1m
  115. 115

    Intelligence with Everyone: RL @ MiniMax, with Olive Song, from AIE NYC & Inference by Turing Post

    A crossover episode featuring Olive Song from Minimax discussing reinforcement learning, model evaluation, and the company's strategy for building frontier LLMs.

    Feb 22, 2026·55m
  116. 116

    Mathematical Superintelligence: Harmonic's Vlad & Tudor on IMO Gold & Theories of Everything

    Feb 18, 2026·1h 31m
  117. 117

    Approaching the AI Event Horizon? Part 2, w/ Abhi Mahajan, Helen Toner, Jeremie Harris, @8teAPi

    Feb 14, 2026·2h 23m
  118. 118

    Approaching the AI Event Horizon? Part 1, w/ James Zou, Sam Hammond, Shoshannah Tekofsky, @8teAPi

    Feb 13, 2026·1h 32m
  119. 119

    AGI-Pilled Cyber Defense: Automating Digital Forensics w/ Asymmetric Security CEO Alexis Carlier

    Feb 8, 2026·1h 16m
  120. 120

    Infinite Code Context: AI Coding at Enterprise Scale w/ Blitzy CEO Brian Elliott & CTO Sid Pardeshi

    Feb 5, 2026·1h 57m
  121. 121

    The AI-Powered Biohub: Why Mark Zuckerberg & Priscilla Chan are Investing in Data, from Latent.Space

    Feb 1, 2026·1h 2m
  122. 122

    AI & The Law: Changing Practice, Claude Constitution, & New Rights, w/ Kevin & Alan of Scaling Laws

    Jan 29, 2026·1h 37m
  123. 123

    The Internet Computer: Caffeine.ai CEO Dominic Williams on Unstoppable, Self-Writing Software

    Jan 25, 2026·2h 11m
  124. 124

    AMA Part 2: Is Fine-Tuning Dead? How Am I Preparing for AGI? Are We Headed for UBI? & More!

    Jan 22, 2026·2h 24m
  125. 125

    Pioneering PAI: How Daniel Miessler's Personal AI Infrastructure Activates Human Agency & Creativity

    Jan 18, 2026·2h 28m
  126. 126

    Bringing AI to Data: Agent Design, Text-2-SQL, RAG, & more, w- Snowflake VP of AI Baris Gultekin

    Jan 14, 2026·1h 39m
  127. 127

    AMA Part 1: Is Claude Code AGI? Are we in a bubble? Plus Live Player Analysis

    Jan 9, 2026·1h 55m
  128. 128

    Building & Scaling the AI Safety Research Community, with Ryan Kidd of MATS

    Jan 4, 2026·1h 54m
  129. 129

    Confronting the Intelligence Curse, w/ Luke Drago of Workshop Labs, from the FLI Podcast

    Jan 1, 2026·1h 16m
  130. 130

    Controlling Tools or Aligning Creatures? Emmett Shear (Softmax) & Séb Krier (GDM), from a16z Show

    Dec 27, 2025·1h 16m
  131. 131

    The Great Security Update: AI ∧ Formal Methods with Kathleen Fisher of RAND & Byron Cook of AWS

    Dec 24, 2025·1h 39m
  132. 132

    AI 2025 → 2026 Live Show | Part 2

    Dec 19, 2025·1h 40m
  133. 133

    AI 2025 → 2026 Live Show | Part 1

    Dec 18, 2025·1h 55m
  134. 134

    AI's Energy & Water Demands: Sorting Fact from Fiction with Andy Masley

    Dec 14, 2025·2h 4m
  135. 135

    Superintelligence: To Ban or Not to Ban? Max Tegmark & Dean Ball join Liron Shapira on Doom Debates

    Dec 10, 2025·2h 1m
  136. 136

    Sovereign AI in Poland: Language Adaptation, Local Control & Cost Advantages with Marek Kozlowski

    Interview with Marek Kozlowski about Poland's national AI project, Project Plum, focusing on training small language models for local language and cultural context.

    Dec 6, 2025·1h 30m
  137. 137

    China's AI Upstarts: How Z.ai Builds, Benchmarks & Ships in Hours, from ChinaTalk

    Dec 3, 2025·1h 23m
  138. 138

    Underwriting Superintelligence: How AIUC is using Insurance, Standards, and Audits to Accelerate Adoption while Minimizing Risks

    Nov 30, 2025·1h 14m
  139. 139

    AI-Led Sales: How 1Mind's Superhumans Drive Exponential Growth, from the Agents of Scale Podcast

    Nov 27, 2025·51m
  140. 140

    What AI Means for Students & Teachers: My Keynote from the Michigan Virtual AI Summit

    Nov 25, 2025·1h 5m
  141. 141

    Escaping AI Slop: How Atlassian Gives AI Teammates Taste, Knowledge, & Workflows, w- Sherif Mansour

    Nov 20, 2025·1h 40m
  142. 142

    AI in the Cancer Journey: How I'm Using AI to Help My Son

    Nov 17, 2025·2h 3m
  143. 143

    My Positive Vision for the AI Future, from the Existential Hope Podcast

    Nov 12, 2025·1h 10m
  144. 144

    What is Catholic AI? Technology Meets Theology, with Matthew Harvey Sanders, CEO of Longbeard

    Nov 8, 2025·1h 54m
  145. 145

    More Truthful AIs Report Conscious Experience: New Mechanistic Research w- Cameron Berg @ AE Studio

    Nov 5, 2025·2h 24m
  146. 146

    A Simulationship with AI, with *smiles and kisses you* Star Chris Stokes & Director Bryan Carberry

    Nov 2, 2025·1h 50m
  147. 147

    Is AI Stalling Out? Cutting Through Capabilities Confusion, w/ Erik Torenberg, from the a16z Podcast

    Oct 29, 2025·1h 38m
  148. 148

    A Positive Vision for the Future: Part 2 with Illia Polosukhin of NEAR

    Interview with Ilya Polosuhin about decentralized AI, blockchain technology, and the future of personal computing with AI agents.

    Oct 25, 2025·1h 28m
  149. 149

    Always Bet on the Models: How Tasklet Puts the Agency in Agents, with CEO Andrew Lee

    Oct 22, 2025·2h 13m
  150. 150

    Chinese AI – They're Just Like Us? With Beijing-Based Concordia AI CEO Brian Tse

    Oct 18, 2025·2h 45m