The Children's Law Podcast

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Practical talk on representing children in child welfare cases.

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The Children's Law Podcast, from True North Child Advocates, treats representing kids in the child welfare system as practical work: preserving abuse claims, handling a dependent child's delinquency charge, questioning a psychotropic prescription. Angela and regular voices such as John and Debra talk each problem through plainly, often finishing on a next step for the child's lawyer.

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The Children's Law Podcast comes from True North Child Advocates, and it treats representing children in the child welfare system as a discipline with its own hard, specific problems. Angela opens the episodes. John is a frequent second voice, with Jim or Debra joining on other occasions. The talk is aimed squarely at the practitioner: it speaks of 'your client', of the kids a lawyer is appointed to represent, of the judge who may not go along and the juvenile justice office that may not return a call. The speakers draw on years of representing children and on what they have seen in their consulting work. That experience shapes the choice of problems. One conversation lays out the broad categories of claims a child's lawyer may need to preserve, beginning with physical and sexual abuse by caregivers in group homes and foster homes, including relatives and frequent visitors who were never properly vetted. The principle offered there is blunt: believe the client first, then follow the investigation through. Another takes on the dependent child who picks up a delinquency charge. It acknowledges that practice differs state by state and county by county, and it suggests smaller overtures for lawyers with no formal structure behind them. Mental health and medication get the same plain handling. None of the speakers are clinicians, as Angela says up front, and they are clear that diagnosis is not the lawyer's job; the job is to check that everyone has done their due diligence, and to tell a diagnosis that needs treatment apart from a child who is struggling because they do not feel safe. The emotional weight of the work gets airtime too. In 'Set the Boundary or Plan the Quinceañera', the discussion turns to older youth and to whether strict, old-school boundaries might feed burnout rather than prevent it. The advice is to cross a line only with intention, after consulting others on the case, and the episode ends on a light note with a quinceañera in the offing. One episode brings in Emily Cook, a senior staff attorney at the Barton Child Law and Policy Center at Emory University School of Law, to talk about preventive legal advocacy, also called pre-petition work. That conversation weighs why keeping families out of the system is easy to support in principle and harder in practice, including the worry that attorneys arriving during an investigation could be seen as a threat to safety. Then there is 'Has America Lost Its Soul?', where the group knowingly steps onto ground some would call political, speaking about detention conditions they consider inhumane for children and separations from parents made without a shown legal necessity. It closes on a Nelson Mandela quote about a society's treatment of its children. The tone stays earnest and plainspoken throughout. Several conversations end on concrete steps: schedule a meeting, question a medication, show up for the client.

Made for: Suits a listener who represents children in dependency or child welfare cases and wants practical footing on preserving claims, delinquency crossover, mental health questions and client boundaries. It also suits anyone in the field who wants candid talk about burnout and the emotional pull of the work.

What sets it apart: It keeps returning to the individual child's lawyer and what that person can do next, from preserving an abuse claim to questioning a prescription. That practical focus sits alongside a willingness to take a public stand on how the country treats children.

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A quinceanera tests the lawyer-client boundary; you'll want a seat for that debate.

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  • to weigh early parent representation against a child's interests before a case reaches court
  • small steps when dependency and delinquency courts aren't coordinating for your client
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Has America Lost Its Soul?Feb 26, 2026

A child-welfare view of detention, family separation, and systems that lose sight of child safety.

The Children's Law Podcast looks at immigration enforcement through a child-welfare lens, focusing on what happens when child safety is pushed behind speed, detention, and family separation.

Riding Without SeatbeltsJan 6, 2026

A seatbelt lawsuit analogy opens a practical discussion of accountability and missed claims in child welfare.

The Children's Law Podcast turns seatbelt lawsuits into a practical way to think about accountability in child welfare: if preventable harm can be traced, preserved, and pursued in one setting, similar discipline may matter when children are harmed in care.

Set the Boundary or Plan the QuinceañeraOct 15, 2025

A candid episode on how child advocates balance professional boundaries with the relationships that can keep the work meaningful.

The Children's Law Podcast moves a familiar lawyer-client boundary question into the more complicated world of older youth cases, where permanency may not be the issue most urgently shaping the work.

How Do We Get Upstream?Jun 10, 2025

A measured episode on preventive legal advocacy, parent representation, and child-centered questions before court involvement.

Preventive legal advocacy is the center of this measured PlayNext episode, with Emily Cook, a senior staff attorney at the Barton Child Law and Policy Center at Emory University School of Law, explaining work that can happen pre-petition or during an investigation.

Your Client Caught a Charge - Now What?May 7, 2025

A practical look at coordinated advocacy for dependent children who are also in delinquency court.

Representing a dependent child who is also in delinquency proceedings can mean watching one child move through two systems that do not always speak the same language.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Has America Lost Its Soul?

    Hidden gem

    Child advocates discuss the hypocrisy in government treatment of children, comparing child welfare system failures to broader societal issues.

    Feb 26, 2026·20m·1 clip
  2. 2

    Riding Without Seatbelts

    Hidden gem

    Angela, John, and Jim use a seatbelt analogy to argue that child welfare needs the same kind of legal accountability that changed car safety.

    Jan 6, 2026·23m·1 clip
  3. 3

    Set the Boundary or Plan the Quinceañera

    Hidden gem

    Lawyers discuss managing professional boundaries with older youth clients, using a quinceanera request as an example of the tension between legal and social work roles.

    Oct 15, 2025·20m·1 clip
  4. 4

    How Do We Get Upstream?

    Hidden gem

    Emily Cook, a senior staff attorney at Emory University School of Law’s Barton Child Law and Policy Center, explains preventive legal advocacy and pre-petition representation as upstream legal support for families.

    Jun 10, 2025·39m·2 clips
  5. 5

    Your Client Caught a Charge - Now What?

    Hidden gem

    Angela, Debra, and John discuss what happens when a dependent child is also facing delinquency proceedings, a population they call crossover kids, dual system, or dual status youth.

    May 7, 2025·26m·1 clip
  6. 6

    I'm Not a Clinician, But...

    Hidden gem

    This episode discusses the role of mental health and medication in child advocacy, highlighting disparities in psychotropic medication prescriptions for foster children.

    Apr 8, 2025·30m·2 clips
  7. 7

    Are 60,000 TPRs Necessary?

    University of Michigan professor Vivek Sankaran says parental-rights termination happens about 50,000 times or more each year, with wide differences among states.

    Mar 14, 2025·36m·2 clips
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    Reimagining the System with Public Knowledge

    Stacey Moss and Will Hornsby describe Public Knowledge’s effort to replace child welfare while maintaining a safety net for children.

    Feb 25, 2025·32m·2 clips
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    Feeling Unsafe When Your Placement is "Secure"

    Jan 31, 2025·36m
  10. 10

    Recommit to the Work

    Jan 21, 2025·22m
  11. 11

    Safe Havens for LGBQ+ and TNGD Youth

    Dec 30, 2024·29m
  12. 12

    Cookie-Cutter Case Plans

    Nov 7, 2024·22m
  13. 13

    Every Seven Minutes

    Oct 25, 2024·26m
  14. 14

    When You Can't Show Them the Money

    Sep 30, 2024·23m
  15. 15

    Love 'em or Lose 'em: Keeping Lawyers in the Field

    Aug 26, 2024·38m
  16. 16

    NACC: New Tools to Elevate Your Practice

    Jul 8, 2024·21m
  17. 17

    Objection! No One is Leading.

    May 24, 2024·18m
  18. 18

    Let's Talk Adoption

    Apr 23, 2024·14m
  19. 19

    Placement Considerations for Children's Attorneys

    Mar 22, 2024·26m
  20. 20

    Can Singing in the Car Make You a Better Children's Lawyer?

    Feb 2, 2024·22m
  21. 21

    Takeaways from 2023

    Jan 9, 2024·17m
  22. 22

    Messaging to Win Hearts and Minds

    Nov 21, 2023·18m
  23. 23

    Collaborative or Adversarial?

    Nov 1, 2023·13m
  24. 24

    Three Powerful Practices

    Oct 11, 2023·21m
  25. 25

    Motions to Compel

    Sep 13, 2023·20m
  26. 26

    One Legal Problem

    Sep 5, 2023·16m
  27. 27

    How Can We Challenge Our Assumptions?

    Jul 20, 2023·29m
  28. 28

    Homelessness and Child Welfare: A Conversation with David Ambroz

    David Ambroz discusses his memoir about childhood homelessness and foster care, and previews his keynote at the NACC conference.

    Jun 20, 2023·33m
  29. 29

    When Things Go Sideways

    Jun 9, 2023·16m
  30. 30

    Planning for Success, Not Survival

    May 12, 2023·27m
  31. 31

    When Your Client is a Survivor of Sex Trafficking

    May 4, 2023·37m
  32. 32

    What's Next for Your Teen Client?

    Mar 29, 2023·28m
  33. 33

    Finding Permanency for Older Youth

    Feb 13, 2023·25m
  34. 34

    Resolutions for the New Year

    Dec 31, 2022·21m
  35. 35

    NACC: More Ways to Connect

    Sep 14, 2022·12m
  36. 36

    Effects of Policing on Children of Color: A Conversation with Prof. Kristin Henning

    Professor Kristin Henning discusses the traumatic effects of policing on children of color and the criminalization of normal adolescent behaviors.

    Jul 25, 2022·29m
  37. 37

    The Arriving Exercise

    Jun 28, 2022·5m
  38. 38

    Trauma and the Children's Lawyer

    Jun 28, 2022·29m
  39. 39

    Why We're Really Here: NACC's Cristal Ramirez on Youth Engagement

    Mar 2, 2022·28m
  40. 40

    A New Child Welfare System: A Conversation with Public Knowledge

    A conversation with Stacey Obrecht and David Kelly about Public Knowledge's work in child welfare and the new Family Integrity and Justice Works project.

    Sep 28, 2021·24m
  41. 41

    Your Role in Promoting Race Equity

    Jul 13, 2021·31m
  42. 42

    The NACC: Five Things You Need to Know

    May 25, 2021·17m
  43. 43

    The Basics of Working with Mental Health Providers

    Mar 23, 2021·24m
  44. 44

    Takeaways from 2020

    Jan 7, 2021·22m
  45. 45

    How to Sleep at Night

    Oct 19, 2020·20m
  46. 46

    Domestic Violence: A Few Powerful Strategies

    Sep 17, 2020·17m
  47. 47

    Racism in Child Welfare: A Conversation with Dr. Jessica Pryce

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    Aug 19, 2020·40m
  48. 48

    A Book, a Movie and a Life Tip

    Jul 8, 2020·23m
  49. 49

    Severe Abuse and the Pandemic

    May 26, 2020·14m
  50. 50

    Is There a Silver Lining?

    Apr 29, 2020·20m