Tech Buzz China by Pandaily

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China's internet economy, one business model at a time.

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Tech Buzz China by Pandaily treats Chinese tech as a run of business case studies, from the 2018 investor rush into community grocery group buying to the appeal of livestream shopping. Rui Ma and Ying Lu co-host, with guests including SCMP CEO Gary Liu and former China livestreamer Lauren Hallanan.

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About Tech Buzz China by Pandaily

Tech Buzz China by Pandaily is a conversation show about China's internet industry, built around how particular companies and business models actually work. Rui Ma and Ying Lu co-host, and the show carries the name of Pandaily, an English-language site covering Chinese innovation. E-commerce is the thread that keeps resurfacing. Take community grocery group buying. One episode picks up from an earlier installment on grocery e-commerce, which covered cold chains, last-mile delivery and quality control, then recalls the moment in 2018 when venture investors flocked to Changsha, the sector's home turf. The hosts admit the sector escaped their notice that year, even though 2018 was when they started the show. Pinduoduo's early days selling fruit get a mention along the way. A Q1 e-commerce update with BigOne Lab gets more granular still. Didi's group-buying platform leans on fresh food, while the top sellers of another early player are almost all iPhones. That contrast raises a real question: are groceries a stepping stone to wider e-commerce, and are platforms making the jump too soon? Consumer habits come up too. A livecast conversation with Karl Ulrich considers why Amazon would not build the labor-intensive customer service Chinese shoppers expected, and how much selling still happens person to person in brand-run WeChat groups. Lauren Hallanan, a fellow podcaster who once livestreamed in China, appears in a lightly edited webinar on livestream e-commerce. A crossover with the Acquired podcast, featuring Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal, turns to Chinese DTC fashion brands whose pitch decks map their supply chains against Shein's, and to ByteDance's investments in fintech and hospitals. Regulation is another strand. In a 2021 internet report conversation with SCMP CEO Gary Liu, recent rules are sorted into buckets. Some bring China in line with the rest of the world, such as forcing Tencent and Alibaba to open their walled gardens or curbing the practice of making merchants pick one platform; others try to set the terms early for emerging technologies. The cryptocurrency ban sits apart as a more idiosyncratic case. The register is analytical without being stiff, and the talk stays anchored in named companies and concrete figures. Episode openings in this stretch often carry news of the team's other ventures, among them a paid community called Tech Buzz China Insider and the TBC Livecast interview series. A good first listen is 'Ep. 80: Community (grocery) group buying: The next must-win market in China?', since it ties a single market back to the show's earlier grocery coverage.

Made for: Suits a listener who follows Chinese consumer internet companies closely, perhaps as an investor or operator, and wants the mechanics behind them: group-buying economics, supply chains, livestream selling and platform regulation.

What sets it apart: It works case by case through named companies, from Didi's grocery platform to Amazon's customer-service choices to fashion brands benchmarking against Shein. The two co-hosts are joined by outside voices such as SCMP's CEO and a former China livestreamer.

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Tech Buzz China by Pandaily is a biweekly technology podcast that is all about China's innovations. It is co-hosted by Rui Ma and Ying Lu, who are both seasoned China-watchers with years of experience working in the technology space in China. They share and discuss the most important tech news from China every week, and include commentary from investors, industry experts, and entrepreneurs.

Why you'd press play

Shein-inspired pitch decks meet grocery warehouse math; Rui Ma and Ying Lu give you the numbers.

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  • to ask what a Shein-inspired fashion pitch changes beyond its supply chain diagram
  • to see why grocery group buyers can tell very different stories with sales figures
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Ep. 84: 2021 China Internet Report with SCMP CEO Gary LiuNov 15, 2021

Gary connects China's internet regulation, crypto ban, and blockchain ambitions through the SCMP China Internet Report.

Tech Buzz China returns with Gary for a focused look at the SCMP China Internet Report and the policy pressure reshaping China's technology sector.

Ep. 83: Acquired crossover — 2021 China tech trendsMay 7, 2021

Shein becomes the lens for China's overseas DTC ambitions and the investor pressure behind restless expansion.

TechBuzz China and Acquired use Shein to look at how Chinese companies are trying to build overseas DTC businesses, with the fashion app standing in for a broader playbook: low prices, heavy social media dependence, and operations built to scale outside the home market.

Ep. 82: Q1 China ecommerce update with BigOne LabApr 23, 2021

A BigOne Lab update shows how China ecommerce players can look stronger or weaker depending on the metric.

Tech Buzz China's quarterly ecommerce update turns community group buying into a strategic question: what happens when platforms built around fresh groceries start pushing branded goods and iPhones?

Ep. 81: What it takes to win in China - Rui Ma with Karl UlrichFeb 12, 2021

A practical look at China tech strategy through Amazon, Inmobi, and the people-heavy work behind e-commerce.

China's e-commerce story sharpens around the choices that left Amazon exposed to more locally responsive rivals. Rui Ma and the discussion trace why Chinese shoppers expected higher-touch service, from brand-run WeChat groups to the labor-intensive work of selling, answering,…

Ep. 80: Community (grocery) group buying: The next must-win market in China?Dec 22, 2020

A focused look at how community group buying pulled China's grocery e-commerce market back into the internet giants' sights.

Community group buying reframes China's still lightly penetrated grocery e-commerce market as a fight among the country's internet giants. The episode moves from analysts' 2019 estimate of less than 5% online penetration to the 2018 bubble, when skepticism around new retail and…

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    Ep. 84: 2021 China Internet Report with SCMP CEO Gary Liu

    Gary Liu says 2020 was a stronger year for Chinese tech funding than 2019, with funding up 24% even as deal count fell 11%.

    Nov 15, 2021·41m·2 clips
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    Ep. 83: Acquired crossover — 2021 China tech trends

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    Apr 23, 2021·31m·3 clips
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    Ep. 81: What it takes to win in China - Rui Ma with Karl Ulrich

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    Carl Ulrich and Rui Ma use eight case studies from "Win in China" to compare Amazon, Norwegian Cruise Line, LinkedIn, Sequoia Capital, InMobi, Intel, and Zegna on what it takes to win in China.

    Feb 12, 2021·27m·1 clip
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    Ep. 80: Community (grocery) group buying: The next must-win market in China?

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    TechBuzzChina by Pandaily's Episode 80 frames community group buying as a WeChat-based grocery model that pays community leaders about 10% commission to aggregate orders and solve last-mile delivery.

    Dec 22, 2020·46m·3 clips
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    Ep. 79: Yatsen Group: Cosmetics ecommerce superstar and China’s L’Oreal for the digital age?

    Yatsen Group raised over $600 million in its NYSE IPO two weeks before the hosts examined its claim to be “China’s L’Oréal” for the digital age.

    Dec 8, 2020·39m·2 clips
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    Ep. 78: China’s Digital Currency Electronic Payment (DCEP) dreams

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    Ray Ma interviews Yin Xiao, a World Economic Forum project lead and former Ant Group legal counsel, about China’s digital RMB.

    Nov 20, 2020·37m·2 clips
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    Ep. 77: The next thing in China ecommerce? Consumer to manufacturer (C2M)

    Tech Buzz China’s Ying Lu and Ray Ma trace C2M from Bi Sheng’s factory-direct marketplace idea to Alibaba’s data-led product creation.

    Oct 30, 2020·35m·2 clips
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    Ep. 76: Lufax IPO and the end of P2P lending in China

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    Oct 19, 2020·24m·1 clip
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    Ep. 75: China ecommerce SaaS: Youzan, Weimob, and WeChat mini programs

    Tech Buzz China hosts Ying Lu and Rey Ma explain "private traffic" (brand-controlled traffic via mini programs and WeChat accounts) versus marketplace traffic on T Mall and JD, which hold over 80% of B2C share.

    Oct 2, 2020·33m·2 clips
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    Ep. 74: Ant Group: The biggest IPO…ever?

    Hosts Ying Lu and Ray Ma use Ant Group's 674-page prospectus to break its business into four segments, and report that payments is just over a third of revenue while credit tech is nearly 40%.

    Sep 11, 2020·55m·2 clips
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    Ep. 73: KE Holdings: China’s second largest platform?

    Aug 28, 2020·36m
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    Ep. 72: What makes TikTok tick: A dialogue with Eugene Wei

    Aug 14, 2020·1h 9m
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    Ep. 71: Industry trends in China’s COVID-19 recovery, with Mu Chen

    Aug 4, 2020·30m
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    Ep. 70: Livestreaming ecommerce with Lauren Hallanan

    This episode discusses China's live streaming e-commerce industry, featuring insights from a former live streamer and covering key events like the 618 Shopping Festival.

    Jul 20, 2020·41m
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    Ep. 69: China AI with Jeff Ding

    This episode features a recorded presentation from a webinar on China AI, hosted by Tech Buzz China, with researcher Jeff Ding discussing the topic.

    Jun 22, 2020·31m
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    Ep. 68: Entertainment livestreaming outside of China with Shang Koo of M17.asia

    This episode features a fireside chat with the CFO of M17 Entertainment, a live streaming company popular in Taiwan and Japan, as part of Tech Buzz China's investor webinar series.

    Jun 8, 2020·26m
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    Ep. 67: TikTok’s siblings: ByteDance’s other video apps

    May 22, 2020·44m
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    Ep. 66: Beyond TikTok: Bytedance’s ambitions in gaming and education

    May 1, 2020·34m
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    Ep. 65 (Extra Buzz Special): Luckin’s luck ran out

    Apr 13, 2020·29m
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    Ep. 64: Telemedicine in China in the time of COVID-19: Part 2

    Apr 3, 2020·38m
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    Ep. 63: China telemedicine in the time of COVID-19: Part 1

    Mar 23, 2020·38m
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    Ep. 62: Real pain for Chinese real estate startups

    Mar 7, 2020·36m
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    Ep. 61: Getting educated on China K-12 tutoring edtech

    Feb 21, 2020·35m
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    Ep. 60: Wuhan Coronavirus: Impact on China Tech

    Feb 7, 2020·27m
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    Ep. 59: China Tech 2019 in Review

    The hosts introduce a Chinese New Year annual review episode, promoting their paid newsletter ExtraBuzz and discussing WeChat's developer conference.

    Jan 24, 2020·30m
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    Ep. 58: China grocery ecommerce: Bloodbath or gold mine?

    Jan 10, 2020·36m
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    Ep. 57: Bilibili — the YouTube of China?

    Dec 13, 2019·37m
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    Ep. 56: Not just TikTok: A short history of Chinese short video abroad

    Nov 22, 2019·34m
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    Ep. 55: Kuaishou: The Anti-Douyin/TikTok?

    Nov 8, 2019·38m
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    Ep. 54: Influencers, KOLs, idols, and the future of China ecommerce

    Oct 25, 2019·34m
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    Ep. 53: NetEase — Developing Pigs, Games, and People

    Oct 4, 2019·32m
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    Ep. 52: Zhihu and Kuaishou — Has China’s Quora Found Its Prince Charming?

    Sep 20, 2019·35m
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    Ep. 51: Overview of China Tech: Rui Ma on SupChina Access

    Aug 30, 2019·52m
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    Ep. 50: TechBuzz Live: The Transpacific Experiment: How China and California Collaborate and Compete for Our Future

    Aug 16, 2019·35m
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    Ep. 49: China’s Gen-Z and its newest poison: sneakers

    Aug 2, 2019·35m
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    Ep. 48: Three Squirrels: The Nutty World of Chinese D2C Brands

    Jul 20, 2019·34m
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    Ep. 47: Chinese K12 English EdTech: VIPKid and How Learning is Earning

    Jun 21, 2019·35m
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    Ep. 46: Futu, Tiger, and the trillion-dollar overseas online brokerage business from China

    Jun 7, 2019·35m
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    Ep. 45: Totally Lit or Just Hot Air? The Rise of E-Cigarettes in China

    May 24, 2019·33m
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    Ep. 44: So young, more beautiful — the allure of China's plastic surgery market

    May 10, 2019·33m
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    Ep. 43: Douyu’s IPO, Panda.TV’s Death — Let the Gaming Livestreaming Games Begin

    Apr 26, 2019·33m
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    Ep. 42: To 996, or Not to 996, That is the Question

    Apr 12, 2019·33m
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    Ep. 41: IPO is for Influencers: The Company Behind China’s Kylie Jenner is Going Public

    Apr 2, 2019·35m
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    Ep. 40: China’s Newest Stock Exchange Experiment: Shanghai’s Technology Innovation Board

    Mar 15, 2019·30m
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    Ep. 39: Podcasting in China — the Myth and the Reality

    Feb 26, 2019·35m
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    Ep. 38: Battle of the Red Packets

    Feb 19, 2019·35m
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    Ep. 37: The WeChat Mini Program — The End of Apps or Not?

    Feb 1, 2019·30m
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    Ep. 36: China Tech is Risky Business - Pinduoduo’s Hack and DJI’s Corruption Scandal

    Jan 25, 2019·22m
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    Ep. 35: Everybody was WeChat Fighting: Bytedance Duoshan, Toilet App, and Bullet 2.0

    Jan 18, 2019·28m