Talking Security: Insights from Microsoft Security Experts

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Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi talk shop with people who work deep in Microsoft security, from a longtime public face of Microsoft Sentinel to MVPs focused on identity. The conversations stay practical: data lake costs, paths to privileged roles, unpatched systems and EU regulation.

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About Talking Security: Insights from Microsoft Security Experts

Talking Security is a conversational podcast about the Microsoft security platform, hosted by Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi. Frans introduces Pouyan on air as his great friend and co-host, and that ease carries through the show. Two formats appear. Guest interviews, some branded MVP Security Insights, sit alongside a strand called Let's Talk in which the two hosts take on the news themselves. In a Let's Talk recap of Microsoft Secure, the pair return from a short break, compare notes from the Workplace Ninja Summit, which Frans co-organized and where Pouyan spoke, and try to pin down what MCP does. One host describes it as a translation layer that turns plain language into something Sentinel can use, names BloodHound as another tool supporting it, and asks anyone who thinks that is wrong to say so in the comments. That moment captures the register well: informed, but not posturing. The Javier Soriano episode has more history behind it. The hosts introduce him as a public face of Microsoft Sentinel from day one and recall building its first automation and DevOps approaches with him, groundwork they tie to what became detection as code. Soriano frames log collection as keeping the lights on across a whole city: full visibility means bringing everything in, and that has always come at a cost. He presents the data lake tier as the release valve, built for ingestion at enterprise scale and searchable interactively with no cap on look-back. Identity returns across episodes. Eric Woodruff describes years of defender work as learning where the cracks between systems sit, jokes that he is a research garbage man, and takes questions on his research exposing paths to privileged roles. Phishing-resistant MFA, Windows Hello and adoption at banks come up in the same conversation. Michael van Horenbeeck, introduced as a Microsoft MVP for 14 consecutive years, lays out the difficulty of securing user, device and app identities across their full lifecycle, and of holding cloud and hybrid estates together. Public sector security is another thread. Ronny de Jong recalls celebrating his MVP award while still seeing others in the community as the real experts, then argues that central government shares the challenges of private enterprise, with specific actors drawn to occasions like the NATO summit. Security, in his framing, is never a one-off. Stefan Schörling is more direct: organisations digitised fast, security did not always follow, and unpatched systems, misconfigurations and neglected lifecycle management are where the biggest gaps sit. That conversation also reaches Sweden and the EU's NIS2 directive. Closing requests point to LinkedIn and X, with one aside wondering whether they are still on X at all. The hosts call it a podcast made from a community, for the community. Newcomers can start with Soriano for product depth, or with Woodruff and van Horenbeeck for identity.

Made for: Suits a listener who works with Microsoft security tools such as Sentinel or Entra ID and wants to hear experienced practitioners reason through identity risk, logging costs and hardening gaps.

What sets it apart: It stays inside a single ecosystem, Microsoft security, and the hosts have working history with at least one guest, such as the early Sentinel automation they recall building with Javier Soriano, so that interview starts from shared context.

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Talking Security is your go-to podcast for everything related to Microsoft Security and DevSecOps. Hosted by Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi, we dive deep into topics like Microsoft Defender, Entra, Intune, Zero Trust, identity protection, security automation, and secure development practices. In each episode, we engage with Microsoft MVPs, product team members, and security experts to explore real-world challenges, practical solutions, and the latest innovations across the Microsoft Security ecosystem. We also focus on integrating security into DevOps workflows, ensuring you stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of cybersecurity. 🎙 Hosted by Frans Oudendorp & Pouyan Khabazi 🔐 Focused o…

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A Sentinel data lake cost tradeoff: finally, a security conversation with your budget in the room.

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Inside Microsoft Sentinel: Data Lake, Graph, and AI with Javier Soriano | Talking Security PodcastDec 11, 2025

A grounded look at how Sentinel's data lake makes broader security visibility more workable.

Microsoft Sentinel's platform shift comes through as a practical answer to a familiar security problem: teams want more enterprise data in view, but ingestion costs can make that ambition hard to sustain.

From MVP to Microsoft: Building Cyber Resilience in the Public Sector with Ronny de JongNov 28, 2025

A grounded public-sector security discussion that puts resilience back on fundamentals, pace, and sustained attention.

Public-sector cyber resilience is framed here as a discipline of steady habits, not flashy intervention. Ronny de Jong, speaking as a Security Technology Fellow at Microsoft, starts with the basics: central and local government share many security pressures with enterprises,…

Let’s Talk: Microsoft Secure Recap – Agentic AI, Sentinel Evolution & Security Copilot AgentsOct 8, 2025

A grounded look at how Sentinel data, MCP, and agentic AI connect to security work.

Microsoft Secure frames agentic AI through the security plumbing it will need before it can be useful. Frans Houdendorp and Pouyan Ghabazi move from natural-language requests into Sentinel configurations, then into the data layer that makes correlation worth trusting.

Identity Security, Entra ID & Innovation: Insights from Eric Woodruff | MVP Security InsightsJul 2, 2025

A defender's eye turns Entra assessments into a practical search for paths toward privileged roles.

Identity security gets its pull here from Eric's habit of spotting the places where systems do not quite line up. The episode follows that instinct from Entra on-demand assessments, including checks around credentials on Microsoft service principals, into work on exposing paths…

25 Years in Cybersecurity: Insights & Lessons from Stefan Schörling | MVP Security InsightsJun 11, 2025

A grounded cybersecurity discussion on why digitization only works when maintenance keeps up.

Stefan Schorling's 25 years in cybersecurity give this episode a grounded route into a persistent gap: organizations have digitized fast, while secure building, patching, hardening, and long-term upkeep have not always kept pace.

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Episodes

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    Inside Microsoft Sentinel: Data Lake, Graph, and AI with Javier Soriano | Talking Security Podcast

    Hidden gem

    Javier Soriano says Sentinel Data Lake changes the cost tradeoff by letting teams keep 12 years of searchable data.

    Dec 11, 2025·45m·2 clips
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    From MVP to Microsoft: Building Cyber Resilience in the Public Sector with Ronny de Jong

    Hidden gem

    Ronny de Jong, Microsoft Security Technology Fellow at Microsoft, connects his path from Windows 2000 certifications and SCCM to modern management, Intune, and public-sector security work.

    Nov 28, 2025·55m·2 clips
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    Let’s Talk: Microsoft Secure Recap – Agentic AI, Sentinel Evolution & Security Copilot Agents

    Hidden gem

    Frans Houdendorp and Pouyan Ghabazi focus on Microsoft Sentinel’s shift from a cloud-native SIEM to an “agentic AI platform” that can reason across assets, identities, and activities.

    Oct 8, 2025·42m·2 clips
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    Identity Security, Entra ID & Innovation: Insights from Eric Woodruff | MVP Security Insights

    Hidden gem

    Eric Woodruff, chief identity architect at Semperis and former Microsoft premier field engineer, traces his path from New York State courts and Active Directory to Entra ID research.

    Jul 2, 2025·48m·2 clips
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    25 Years in Cybersecurity: Insights & Lessons from Stefan Schörling | MVP Security Insights

    Hidden gem

    Talking Security: Insights from Microsoft Security Experts features Frans Haarendorp, Pouyan Ghabasi, and Stefan Schorling, CTO at OnePrin and a Microsoft Security MVP for 17 years.

    Jun 11, 2025·55m·2 clips
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    Navigating Zero Trust, AI, and Identity with Michael van Horenbeeck | MVP Security Insights

    Michael van Horenbeeck says zero trust depends on making network, endpoint, and cloud tools work together.

    May 21, 2025·47m·2 clips
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    From Vision to Sentinel: How Microsoft Built the World's Most Beloved Cloud-Native SIEM

    Other Shizov traces his move from ArcSight to Microsoft Sentinel to Eliav Levy’s advice: “Now go learn cloud.” He says a 15-person incubation team could answer customer requests with “yes” by connecting Logic Apps, workbooks, Azure Functions, and Event Hubs.

    May 6, 2025·36m·2 clips
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    Mastering Security in the Cloud Era: Insights from a Microsoft Security MVP

    Security MVP and architect Truls Torstadt Dalsim says threat intelligence can guide future detection and investment, beyond feeding Sentinel indicators of compromise.

    Apr 23, 2025·53m·2 clips
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    From CASB to SaaS Security: Tackling OAuth Threats with Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps

    Apr 10, 2025·44m
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    Let's Talk March Update: Zero Days, OAuth Attacks, and the Latest in Microsoft Security

    Mar 31, 2025·32m
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    🔒Let's Talk Security - Feb 2025 Update | Safer Internet Day, Defender XDR, DeepSeek Data Leak & More

    Feb 17, 2025·41m
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    Let's Talk: January Update: Critical Advancements & Key Insights

    Jan 25, 2025·36m
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    Let's Talk: Microsoft Ignite 2024 Security Highlights

    Dec 16, 2024·50m
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    Navigating DevSecOps with GitHub: Insights from April Yoho

    Oct 30, 2024·44m
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    MVP Insights E06 - Strengthening Community Connections with Pablo Chacon and Katie Ryckman

    Oct 1, 2024·46m
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    DevSecOps E07 - Elevating DevSecOps: Mastering Infrastructure and Identity Monitoring

    Sep 11, 2024·39m
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    MVP Insights E05 - Exploring Advanced Cybersecurity Strategies with Mona Ghadiri

    Aug 29, 2024·48m
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    MVP Insights E04 - Unlocking Cybersecurity, the Insights with Gianni Castaldi 🎉

    Aug 7, 2024·45m
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    MVP Insights E03 - How Airbrush Boosts Mattias Borg in CyberSecurity! 🚀

    Jul 24, 2024·50m
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    #38 - MVP Security Insights - Thijs Lecomte

    Jul 11, 2024·42m
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    #37 - MVP Security Insights - Sanna Diana Tomren

    Jun 27, 2024·43m
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    #36 - DevSecOps Series - Mastering the Monitor Phase for Robust Security

    Jun 17, 2024·43m
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    #35 - DevSecOps Series – How to release Software Securely in a DevSecOps Pipeline?

    May 27, 2024·34m
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    #34 - DevSecOps Series – Demystifying the Test Process

    May 6, 2024·33m
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    #33- DevSecOps series - Secure your build process and build environment

    Feb 22, 2024·1h 1m
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    #32- DevSecOps series - Code security from a developer perspective

    Dec 14, 2023·46m
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    #31- DevSecOps series - Introduction and Securing the Developer Workplace

    Nov 2, 2023·51m
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    #30- DfC series - Defender for API

    Oct 5, 2023·43m
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    #29 - DfC series - DevOps Security

    Sep 14, 2023·46m
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    #28 - DfC series - Defender for Servers

    May 11, 2023·36m
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    #27 - DfC series - Introduction to Defender for Cloud

    Apr 20, 2023·51m
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    #26 - about Microsoft 365 Security and onboarding

    Jan 5, 2023·42m
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    #25 - about Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Evaluation Labs

    Nov 23, 2022·26m
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    #24 - Jan Bakker and Pim Jacobs about Microsoft Entra - Identity Governance

    Oct 12, 2022·22m
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    #23 - about Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Threat and Vulnerability Management

    Sep 7, 2022·44m
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    #22 - about Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Configuration

    Jul 25, 2022·20m
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    #21 - about Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Onboarding

    Feb 23, 2022·30m
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    #20 - about Log4J 2 months later with Maarten Goet and Jeroen Niesen

    Host Frans Oudendorp discusses the Log4J vulnerability with security experts Jeroen Nyssen and Maarten Goed, covering its impact and lessons learned.

    Jan 26, 2022·26m
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    #19 - Ronny de Jong about Security @ Microsoft Ignite 2021 Autumn

    Nov 10, 2021·39m
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    #18 - Freek Berson about Azure Virtual Desktop & Security

    Sep 30, 2021·49m
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    #17 - Alex, Maarten and Olaf about Advanced Hunting within the Microsoft Security Solutions

    Host Frans Oudendorp discusses advanced hunting in Microsoft Security Solutions with MVPs, including a deep dive into the Print Nightmare vulnerability.

    Jul 13, 2021·43m
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    #16 - Nimrod Aldaag about Azure Defender for IoT

    Jun 3, 2021·31m
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    #15 - Corina Feuerstein about Microsoft 365 Defender

    Apr 26, 2021·34m
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    #14 - Daniel Naim about Microsoft Defender for Identity

    Mar 23, 2021·33m
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    #13 - Stefan Schorling about Ignite 2021 - XDRvsSIEM - HAFNIUM and Solorigate

    Hosts discuss Ignite announcements for Microsoft security, including new Azure Sentinel connectors and integration with 365 Defender.

    Mar 9, 2021·30m
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    #12 - Stefan van der Wiele about Azure AD Secure Hybrid Access

    Feb 8, 2021·24m
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    #11 - Sebastien Molendijk about Microsoft Cloud App Security and Microsoft Defender

    Oct 12, 2020·26m
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    #10 - Pawel Partyka about Office 365 ATP, Exchange Online Protection and MTP

    Jul 31, 2020·33m
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    #09 - John Joyner about Okta, Azure Sentinel and Microsoft Cloud App Security

    Jul 6, 2020·30m
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    #08 - Stefan van der Wiele about Identity and Microsoft Azure AD

    Jun 3, 2020·26m