
Horsemanship through attention, welfare, and feel.
The gist
Talking About Horses is an equestrian conversation show led by Patrick King, centered on horsemanship, dressage, body work, and learning with horses. Recent episodes move between horse brain science, emotions in the arena, trailer loading challenges, and classical riding ideas.
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About Talking About Horses
Talking About Horses is an equestrian conversation show about training, riding, welfare, and the learning process between horse and human. Patrick King hosts it with a teacherly, informal manner. The show’s recent episodes draw from horsemanship, dressage, equine body work, rider psychology, and horse brain science. It is not polished into a tight studio product. The cold opens often keep the live-recording texture intact, including camera checks, small jokes, and the occasional messy start. That looseness suits the material. These are conversations built around observation, not slogans. With Dr Stephen Peters, the show spends time on arousal, parasympathetic reset, sleep, memory consolidation, and the signs a horse may offer while returning toward relief. With Paul Belasik, the discussion reaches into modern dressage and stories around riding culture. With Dr Paul and Justin Haefner, the emphasis shifts toward emotions in the arena, regulation, resilience, and how information becomes useful only when it can be applied with a horse. The Best Horse Practices episode points toward seat, contact, physiology, and the idea that training affects the horse’s body. The Jim Masterson episode brings body work into the frame through visual responses to touch and release. A Coffee Conversations entry turns toward trailer loading challenges and more casual topic handling. Across the run, the same question keeps resurfacing: what is the horse actually experiencing? The show gives space to technical language, but it usually ties that language back to practical awareness. Nervous systems, lips, bits, sleep, relief, and rider consistency all become part of the same horsemanship picture. It suits a listener who wants the why beneath a training choice. The best moments are measured rather than flashy. Talking About Horses makes equestrian skill feel less like command and more like responsibility.
Made for: Suits a listener who wants thoughtful equestrian conversation about training, dressage, body awareness, and horse welfare. It fits riders who prefer practical reflection over quick hacks.
What sets it apart: The show connects classical horsemanship language with nervous-system science, body work, and rider psychology while keeping the conversation grounded in barn-level choices. Its live, lightly unvarnished texture makes the discussions feel close to a clinic conversation.
In their own words
In TALKING ABOUT HORSES, Patrick brings you some of the best riders, horsemen, trainers, equine advocates, and thought leaders in the horse industry for tips, insights, and stories. These broadcasts are first presented LIVE through Facebook. You can listen at home, at work, in the car, or in the saddle either thru Facebook, YouTube, or by downloading the podcast from iTunes.What do we talk about? Horsemanship, dressage, competition, rider problems, nutrition, news in the industry, horse training, personal stories and so much more!
Why you'd press play
The horse's lip gets a say before your hands get a verdict.
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- Patrick King to ask how you know your horse has actually found relief after a release
- to understand why your horse may keep learning after you've left the arena
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Episodes
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Ep # 69, Dr Stephen Peters, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - Horse Brain Science, part 2
Hidden gemTalking About Horses episode 69 opens with a wardrobe-change joke after Patrick King pours his drink on himself, then brings back Dr Steven Peters to continue episode 68's horse brain science discussion.
Apr 14, 2026·1h 1m·5 clips - 2
Ep # 68, Dr Stephen Peters, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - Horse Brain Science
Hidden gem["Patrick King's episode 68 of Talking About Horses features Dr.
Nov 16, 2025·1h 23m·5 clips - 3
Ep # 66, Best Horse Practices Episode, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Hidden gemEpisode 66 of Talking About Horses centers on the Best Horse Practices Summit, a 501c3 nonprofit event with only 70 attendee spots this year.
Oct 7, 2025·1h 29m·5 clips - 4
Ep # 67, Paul Belasik, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - Long and Low: A Revolution in Modern Dressage
Hidden gem["Episode 67 of Talking About Horses centers on Paul Belasik's Long and Low: A Revolution in Modern Dressage, with Patrick King framing Belasik as a rider, trainer, writer, and teacher.", "Belasik says riding should be \"hard like chess, not hard like digging a ditch,\" and jokes that a dressage rider is \"planking\" for 45 minutes while appearing still.", "He ties that control to Tai Chi, levade, the Spanish Riding School, and the idea that a small rider movement can unbalance a horse when the work gets precise.", "He also traces his education through the Finger Lakes, Chad's Ford, Kennett Square, Vienna, and the Furman Rogers equestrian collection at the University of Pennsylvania."]
Oct 7, 2025·1h 26m·5 clips - 5
Ep # 65, Dr Paul & Justin Haefner, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - Emotions in the Arena
Hidden gemEpisode 65 of Talking About Horses features Dr.
Oct 6, 2025·1h 33m·5 clips - 6
Ep # 64, Clair Thunes, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - equine nutirition
Apr 17, 2025·1h 57m - 7
Ep # 63, Tami Elkayam, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - backing horses up, a professional disagreement
Mar 30, 2025·2h 5m - 8
Ep # 61, Karen Rohlf, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - the development of a happy athlete
Mar 23, 2025·1h 29m - 9
Ep # 62, Jim Masterson, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - the horse as a participant in the process
Mar 23, 2025·1h 25m - 10
Ep # 60, Dr Paul Haefner and Justin Haefner - horse fear, rider fear, and so much more!
Mar 5, 2025·2h 9m - 11
Ep # 59 Daniel Dauphin - Bits, Bitting, Foamy Mouth, Contact, and more
Feb 9, 2025·1h 55m - 12
Ep # 58 Donna Snyder Smith - The Alchemy of Horses
Jan 25, 2025·1h 44m - 13
Ep # 57 Jec Ballou - Developing a fitness plan for your horse
Jan 18, 2025·1h 15m - 14
Ep # 49, Gerd Heuschmann, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·1h 46m - 15
Ep # 50, Anja Beran, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·1h 1m - 16
Ep # 53.5 ("The Lost Episode") Charles de Kunffy, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·1h 28m - 17
Ep # 53, JJ Tate, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·1h 59m - 18
Ep # 52, Charles de Kunffy, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·1h 37m - 19
Ep # 51, Dominique Barbier, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·1h 38m - 20
Ep # 56, Bettina Drummond, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·2h 19m - 21
Ep # 55, Carl Bledsoe, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·1h 53m - 22
Ep # 54, David Koss, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 14, 2025·1h 17m - 23
Ep # 42, Wendy Murdoch, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 39m - 24
Ep # 40, Jane Pike, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 35m - 25
Ep # 47, Thomas & Shana Ritter, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 13m - 26
Ep # 46, Jec Ballou, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 19m - 27
Ep # 39, Charles de Kunffy, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·57m - 28
Ep # 38, Dr Paul Haefner, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 49m - 29
Ep # 37, Wendy Murdoch, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·2h 18m - 30
Ep # 36, Leslie Desmond, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 21m - 31
Ep # 45, Karen Rohlf, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 34m - 32
Ep # 35, Dr Paul Haefner, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·2h 38m - 33
Ep # 44, Warwick Schiller, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·2h 18m - 34
Ep # 43, Luis Valenca & Sofia Valenca, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 33m - 35
Ep # 48, Linda Parelli, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 40m - 36
Ep # 41, Charles de Kunffy, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 13, 2025·1h 22m - 37
Ep # 34, Mike Corcoran, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jan 11, 2025·2h 28m - 38
COFFEE CONVERSATIONS (4): Athletic Relaxation
Feb 25, 2022·11m - 39
COFFEE CONVERSATIONS (5): Learning something new, Deepening your learning
Feb 25, 2022·9m - 40
COFFEE CONVERSATIONS (3) Trailer Loading Challenges and Thoughts
Patrick King introduces a new series of coffee conversations, shares a story about a gift of coffee from a student, and discusses the unique business model of The Grind Coffee House run by high school students.
Aug 27, 2018·1h 2m - 41
Ep # 33, Jim Masterson, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Patrick King interviews Jim Masterson about his unique method of equine bodywork that uses visual responses to release muscle and structural stress in horses.
Aug 27, 2018·1h 28m - 42
Ep # 32, Dr Joyce Harman, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Aug 1, 2018·3h 48m - 43
Ep # 31, Anna Blake, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jul 20, 2018·2h 15m - 44
Ep # 30, Leslie Desmond, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Jul 14, 2018·2h 19m - 45
Ep # 29, Jonathan Field, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Patrick King interviews Canadian horseman Jonathan Field about his approach to horsemanship and his work as a clinician.
Jun 15, 2018·1h 10m - 46
Ep #26, Leslie Desmond, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
May 31, 2018·2h 23m - 47
Ep. #28, Bruce Sandifer, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Patrick King interviews horseman Bruce Sandifer about his background as a ranch cowboy and his work with classical California bridal horses.
May 26, 2018·1h 8m - 48
COFFEE CONVERSATIONS (2): Take care of the small and “boring” stuff
Patrick King discusses the importance of focusing on small, seemingly boring details in horsemanship to achieve great results.
May 18, 2018·27m - 49
COFFEE CONVERSATIONS (1): “Don’t let the horse win…”
May 18, 2018·8m - 50
Ep. #27, Charles Wilhelm, TALKING ABOUT HORSES
Apr 27, 2018·1h 36m