Swarfcast

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Machine shops, ownership, and industrial purpose.

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Swarfcast treats machining as both a trade and a business. Noah Graf talks with owners, educators, technology builders, and manufacturing people about buying shops, running equipment, teaching engineers, and finding purpose in industrial work.

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About Swarfcast

Swarfcast is a machining-world podcast with the instincts of a business owner and the curiosity of a shop visitor. It starts from precision manufacturing, but it rarely stays in one narrow lane. Recent conversations move through used machine tools, shop acquisitions, succession planning, engineering education, robotics, AI coaching, company culture, and the reasons some people choose to own and build companies. The show’s center of gravity is practical. Noah Graf brings a perspective shaped by Graf Pinkert’s work buying and selling used machine tools, so questions about growth, exits, equipment, and dealmaking feel close to the ground. When Mike Payne talks about acquisitions, the interest is not just in the transaction count; it is in why a buyer chooses healthy businesses, what value exists beyond a check, and how manufacturing can become a long-term operating purpose. When Federico Veneziano describes buying the shop he worked for, the story becomes about ambition, culture, product purpose, and the discipline required to move from technician to owner. The show also makes room for technology. Robots, AI assistants, tap testing, and CNC education appear as real shop and business questions, not trend bait. It can be blunt, informal, and personal. Tangents happen. Baseball, video work, sleep, anxiety, Google Maps, and movie references may share space with cycle times and machine purchasing. That looseness gives the show a human edge, especially when interviews turn toward motivation, teaching, accountability, or the emotional weight of leadership. Swarfcast suits listeners who want manufacturing conversations that understand both the machinery and the person responsible for making payroll. It is most valuable when it connects technical choices to business consequences. The result is a grounded industrial show about how machine shops are bought, led, modernized, taught, and given a reason to matter.

Made for: Swarfcast is for precision machining professionals, shop owners, manufacturing educators, equipment buyers, and business-minded listeners who care about how industrial companies actually run.

What sets it apart: The show stands apart by combining machine-tool fluency with candid conversations about ownership, acquisitions, succession, education, and purpose. Its interviews stay close to real manufacturing decisions rather than treating industry as a generic business case.

In their own words

Noah Graff, used machine tool dealer and editor of Today’s Machining World, interviews machining company owners, equipment gurus, and experts with insight to help and entertain people working in the machining field. We discuss topics such as how to find quality employees, customer acquisition, negotiation, and the best CNC equipment options for specific jobs.

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Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Swarfcast connects precision-machining know-how with the practical realities of acquisitions, ownership, education, and industrial growth.

Swarfcast follows the business of precision machining from the shop floor to the owner's office. Noah Graff interviews manufacturing operators and educators about buying companies, building culture, training engineers, choosing equipment, and connecting technical decisions to…

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  • to hear what changes when someone buys the machine shop where he once worked
  • to see cycle times and tool life treated as business decisions, not classroom trivia
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Courage to Be Rubbish – EP 263Apr 14, 2026

Noah and Lloyd Graf talk through a rough start, AI frustration, and the lift of recording together.

Noah Graf starts this Swarfcast episode tense and gives himself permission to be rubbish at something before he gets better. With occasional co-host Lloyd Graf, he talks through a rough morning, the frustrations of using AI, and the pleasure of recording together.

Manufacturing Acquisitions with Purpose, with Mike Payne (Part 1) (Best of Swarfcast)Apr 7, 2026

Mike Payne explains why he moved from M&A into operating a manufacturing company.

After 20 years in M&A, Mike Payne wanted to run a company himself. He tells Noah Graff that operating a business had long been his goal, and manufacturing had always interested him. In 2018, he bought Hill Manufacturing and Fabrication. He has since acquired four machine shops.

He Bought the Shop He Worked For, Federico Veneziano (Part II)-EP 260Mar 3, 2026

Federico Veneziano links a growing machine shop's culture to the purpose behind its products.

Three years after Federico Veneziano bought American Micro, the company has changed in ways he can count: over 25 shareholders became one owner, 86 employees became 130, and the business is now Boldex Industries.

Learning, Teaching, Owning, with Federico Veneziano-EP 259Feb 17, 2026

Federico Veneziano traces his path from the machine shop through teaching and international work to company ownership.

Federico Veneziano began cutting metal in northern Italy at 12. Now he owns a machining company, and Noah Graf lets him trace the work between those points.

Making Engineers Love Manufacturing, With Andrew Schiller-EP 258Feb 2, 2026

Andrew Schiller connects machining choices with shop economics and invites industry professionals to help teach.

Andrew Schiller wants engineering students to see what happens after they design a part. Cycle times, tool life and other machining choices affect what a shop can earn.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Courage to Be Rubbish – EP 263

    Hidden gem

    Host Noah Graf discusses the concept of having the courage to be imperfect and introduces Graf Pinkert's new business consulting service for buying and selling precision machining companies.

    Apr 14, 2026·36m·2 clips
  2. 2

    Why Some People Build Companies and Others Don't, with Mike Payne (Part 2) (Best of Swarfcast)

    In part two of an interview with Mike Payne, the host explores why some people build companies while others remain employees, delving into deeper motivations beyond money and autonomy.

    Apr 7, 2026·34m
  3. 3

    Manufacturing Acquisitions with Purpose, with Mike Payne (Part 1) (Best of Swarfcast)

    Hidden gem

    Mike Payne, a prolific acquirer of manufacturing companies, discusses his passion for manufacturing and his approach to acquiring and building machine shops.

    Apr 7, 2026·37m·2 clips
  4. 4

    Your AI Life Coach Is Lying to You, with Brooks Canavesi–EP 262

    Brooks Canavesi discusses how his company Barians uses AI as a flourishing partner to help people improve, not replace, themselves.

    Mar 31, 2026·1h 21m
  5. 5

    Robots that Know Where to Go, With George Konidaris (Best Of)

    An interview with George Konidaris about Real-Time Robotics' AI that simplifies robot programming for machining tasks.

    Mar 24, 2026·1h 5m
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    So You Want To Be More Confident?–EP 261

    Mar 17, 2026·7m
  7. 7

    He Bought the Shop He Worked For, Federico Veneziano (Part II)-EP 260

    Host Noah Graf of Swarfcast interviews Federico Veneziano, who bought American Micro — the precision machining company he had worked at for years and quietly held a 14% stake in since 2010 — after the deaths of his mentor Rene and his father in 2022, then renamed it Boldex Industries and grew it from 86 to 130 employees.

    Mar 3, 2026·1h 3m·4 clips
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    Learning, Teaching, Owning, with Federico Veneziano-EP 259

    Host Noah Graf of Swarfcast interviews Federico Veneziano — now CEO of Boldex Enterprises — about the biographical arc that brought him from cutting metal at age 12 in a small town northwest of Milan to eventually owning the precision machining company in Batavia, Ohio he originally visited in January 2005 just to set up a machine.

    Feb 17, 2026·51m·3 clips
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    Making Engineers Love Manufacturing, With Andrew Schiller-EP 258

    Noah Graf, host of Swarfcast, interviews Andrew Schiller, a non-PhD 'instructor of the practice' at Utah Tech University who spent six years at Caterpillar working on starters and alternators before studying theology in Louisville while designing appliances at GE's First Build.

    Feb 2, 2026·51m·4 clips
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    The Turnaround Formula, with Neil Lansing-EP 256 (Reupload)

    Jan 28, 2026·1h 6m
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    Is 2025 the End of Cam Screw Machines? EP 257 (Reupload)

    Jan 28, 2026·49m
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    Running a CNC Swiss Medical Shop, with Shawn Gaskin

    Jan 21, 2026·39m
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    Attached to Multi-Spindles, With Elliott May

    Jan 15, 2026·41m
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    Pivoting to Manufacture a Product, with Michael Gimbel – EP 224

    Jan 6, 2026·47m
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    How to Make Your Employees Want to Stay, with Adam Wiltsie

    Dec 9, 2025·34m
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    Running a "First Class" Cold Heading Company, with Joe Bennett

    Nov 25, 2025·36m
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    Another AI Episode (But This One’s Actually Useful)-EP 255

    Nov 18, 2025·12m
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    Citizen CNC Swiss Lathes, with Marc Klecka

    Nov 12, 2025·34m
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    Rare Earths Aren’t Rare, with Julie Klinger-Ep. 254

    Nov 4, 2025·42m
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    Recruiting Long Term Shop Employees, with Bill Cox

    Oct 28, 2025·16m
  21. 21

    Building a Great Apprenticeship Program, with Bill Cox

    Oct 28, 2025·27m
  22. 22

    How to Persuade Anyone Before You Even Speak-EP 253

    Oct 21, 2025·8m
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    33 - Aneesa Muthana, the Success of a Woman in the Machining Business

    Oct 14, 2025·38m
  24. 24

    How To Get Lucky (It’s Easier Than You Think)–EP 252

    Oct 7, 2025·11m
  25. 25

    Where Rotary Transfers Fit, with Kris Fugate

    Oct 1, 2025·46m
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    AI That Actually Works in Manufacturing, with Adam Marsh-EP. 251

    Sep 23, 2025·1h 23m
  27. 27

    Defending Your Manufacturing Company From Cyber Attacks with Drew Phillips

    Sep 18, 2025·43m
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    Why We Choke Under Pressure — And How to Fix It-EP 250

    Sep 9, 2025·11m
  29. 29

    How to Create an Awesome Manufacturing Culture, with Jim Mayer--EP 222

    Sep 3, 2025·45m
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    Machines vs Workers? With Noah and Lloyd–EP 249

    Aug 26, 2025·28m
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    Finding Customers Using Old-School Networking, with Jay Sauder

    Aug 19, 2025·36m
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    Conversation Techniques That Changed My Life-EP 248

    Aug 12, 2025·12m
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    The Machining Business After Trump’s Tariffs-EP 247

    Jul 29, 2025·1h 6m
  34. 34

    Freeing Humans One Robot a Time, with Malachi Greb

    Jul 22, 2025·51m
  35. 35

    Most Comfortable When I’m Uncomfortable in Business, with John Griner – EP 246

    John Griner discusses building a life around calculated risks and staying comfortable with discomfort in business.

    Jul 15, 2025·45m
  36. 36

    Ep. 102 – Growing a Community of Passionate Customers, with George Breiwa

    George Breiwa discusses how DynaVap built a community of passionate customers around their unique vaporizer products.

    Jul 3, 2025·31m
  37. 37

    Stop Waiting to Feel Ready-EP 245

    Jul 1, 2025·11m
  38. 38

    Selling Real Cow Bone to Machine Bone Screws! With Mary and Jim Rickert

    Jun 24, 2025·30m
  39. 39

    Tasmania to Tehran Fixing CNCs, with Donato Notaro-EP 245

    Donato Notaro, a retired Tornos expert, discusses his career in machining, Swiss apprenticeships, and the complexities of multi-spindle machines.

    Jun 17, 2025·1h 2m
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    Leaving your Father’s Manufacturing Company and then Founding Your Own, With Howard Sheldon-EP 214

    Howard Sheldon shares his journey of leaving his family's precision turning company to found his own Swiss turning business, offering insights for those in family businesses or aspiring entrepreneurs in manufacturing.

    Jun 10, 2025·50m
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    How to Talk to Anyone—Even If You Disagree-EP 244

    Jun 3, 2025·10m
  42. 42

    The Machining Revivalist with Chris Armstrong

    May 20, 2025·49m
  43. 43

    How to Find New Manufacturing Talent, with Ann Wyatt

    Anne Wyatt discusses strategies for manufacturing companies to attract and recruit top engineering and technical talent.

    May 13, 2025·49m
  44. 44

    Can AI Replace Your Shop’s Smartest Machinist?, with Riley Hutchinson-EP 242

    May 6, 2025·40m
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    Should I Buy the Expensive or Cheaper CNC Machine? With Justin Tauber

    Apr 29, 2025·41m
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    How to Sell a Commodity with Soul, with Mike Pelham–EP 241

    Apr 22, 2025·33m
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    Escaping Your Comfort Zone with Lean Manufacturing, Matthew Rassi-EP 216

    Apr 15, 2025·56m