Supply Chain is Boring

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Logistics oral history, from a host who insists it's boring.

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Supply Chain is Boring is an oral-history interview show in which Chris, the self-styled Supply Chain Doctor, asks academics and industry veterans in logistics about their childhoods, careers and lessons learned. The title is a deadpan running joke, repeated in his sign-off, that he invites his guests to disprove.

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Supply Chain is Boring runs on a deadpan premise. Its host, Chris, calls himself the Supply Chain Doctor, has declared his own field boring, and signs off with the same verdict: supply chain is boring. Then he sets about gathering evidence against himself. Introducing Bruce Welty, he admits the whole thing sounds pretty boring and says he wants to see whether Welty can prove him wrong. Underneath the joke is a sincere oral history of logistics and supply chain management. A recurring introduction explains how the project grew by referral: Chris sat down with Ken Ackerman in May 2020 to collect some of the field's history, Ackerman told him about a similar interview with Dr. James Stock from years before, and Chris caught up with Stock that November. The questions lean biographical, and they start early. In the three-part conversation with Dr. James L. Heskett, the talk reaches back to pitching hay in 100-degree heat, nauseating flights with a father who was an amateur pilot, and a one-room schoolhouse where eight grades shared a room and the smallest children sat nearest the wood stove. Heskett still remembers that teacher by name, Sarah Schreiber. Elsewhere in the series he describes a thesis called industrial logistics, with a diagram of inbound and outbound processes, and the view that distribution was only one side of the coin. In the third part he talks about community life in and around Boston and offers a plain lesson from more than four decades in academia: be yourself, because if you wait for others to define your career you can wait a long time. The conversation with the late Don Bowersox approaches the field from a different angle. It includes memories of joining the Railway Express Agency in New York in the fall of 1960 while finishing a dissertation, and of a book that was hard to publish because, in so obscure a field, no one knew what it was. There is also a pointed passage on academic incentives: an unsuccessful push, as dean, for a professorship for great teachers, and criticism of research that passes statistical tests without generating new knowledge. Bruce Welty represents the industry side. Chris heard about him through Boston-area colleagues who worked for Kiva, and calls him, from what he can tell, the Steve Jobs of warehouse robotics. Welty's story starts in Minneapolis, with a father in supply chain at Honeywell and a grandfather who was a postal worker, before a reluctant move to Massachusetts at 15. The show is part of the Supply Chain Now Network. What a listener gets is portraiture: the people behind the textbooks, in their own words, with the running joke as the frame.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants the people and history behind logistics and supply chain management, told through patient biographical interviews rather than news about current operations.

What sets it apart: It treats supply chain management as a field with a history and a cast of characters, asking academics and industry veterans about childhoods, teachers, first jobs and career lessons, all under the host's running joke that the subject is boring.

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The Supply Chain Doctor has made his diagnosis: Supply Chain is Boring. Can anyone prove him wrong? To find out, the doctor himself, Chris Barnes, interviews the brightest minds contributing concepts and ideas to the future of end-to-end supply management. If you’re an experienced professional, dig deeper into why you do what you do. Just starting out? Learn more about the opportunities ahead and how you can better prepare to address them. Considering a career in supply chain management? Find out about available opportunities and where you might fit. And let’s all get to the bottom of this: is supply chain boring?

Why you'd press play

Chris Barnes dusts off Jim Stock's interviews; your logistics history class finally gets first-person stories.

Press play if you want

  • to hear Don Bowersox question why business schools reward research more than great teaching
  • to follow Jim Heskett's thinking beyond distribution to the inbound side of logistics
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Thinking About Strategy and Relationships with Dr. James L. Heskett, Part 3Jul 22, 2022

A grounded academic life story about career direction, community ties, and future research and teaching.

Dr. James Heskett's account of a 40-plus-year academic career works best as a study of how professional direction grows through personal relationships.

Thinking About Strategy and Relationships with Dr. James L. Heskett, Part 2Jul 8, 2022

A reflective oral history on how relationships shaped thinking about logistics, strategy, and service management.

Strategy comes through as something built between people, not just inside plans. Dr. James Haskett follows a path from military relationships and industrial logistics to the service profit chain, linking employee satisfaction, commitment, and loyalty with customer satisfaction,…

Thinking About Strategy and Relationships with Dr. James L. Heskett, Part 1Jun 24, 2022

A supply-chain academic's early life becomes a vivid entry point into the field's history.

Supply-chain history comes through lived detail in this conversation about James Stock's academic path and the early experiences around it. A one-room schoolhouse, a wood stove, hay pitching in summer heat, and uneasy flights with an amateur-pilot father give the episode a…

A Conversation with the Late, Great Don Bowersox, Part 3May 28, 2022

Don Bowersox links supply chain's institutional history with the academic values that shaped the profession.

Don Bowersox comes across as both historian and critic of the academic machinery surrounding supply chain management. Speaking with Dr. James Stock, he looks back on the field's institutional development, including his role in helping found the National Council of Physical…

A Conversation with the Late, Great Don Bowersox, Part 2May 13, 2022

A career history of supply-chain scholarship shaped by publishing hurdles, business detours, and Michigan State.

Don Bowersox's story gives supply-chain history a human scale, moving from a manuscript in search of a publisher to work at the Railway Express Agency, a return to Michigan State to teach, and a later move to E.F. McDonald before his long academic service.

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    A Conversation with the Late, Great Don Bowersox, Part 3

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    Don Bowersox connects his legacy to the shift from physical distribution to logistics to supply chain management, and he says he hopes colleagues remember his work with students as much as his books.

    May 28, 2022·33m·2 clips
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    A Conversation with the Late, Great Don Bowersox, Part 2

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    Don Bowersox traces his path from Air Force training and RAND Corporation simulation work to graduate study at Michigan State, where he says systems network theory shaped his thinking.

    May 13, 2022·32m·2 clips
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    A Conversation with the Late, Great Don Bowersox, Part 1

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    Chris introduces archival interviews gathered by James Stock to preserve supply chain scholarship and its history.

    Apr 29, 2022·34m·2 clips
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    Meeting Mr. Warehousing – An Interview Hosted by James R. Stock Part 4 of 4

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    Mar 18, 2022·36m·2 clips
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    Meeting Mr. Warehousing – An Interview Hosted by James R. Stock Part 3 of 4

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    Mar 4, 2022·32m·2 clips
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    Dec 10, 2021·14m
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    Simplifying Supply Chain Concepts for Children: A Supply Jane Adventure

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    Supply Chain is Boring Classic: Profiles in Supply Chain Leadership with Richard Sharpe, Part 2

    Oct 29, 2021·33m
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    Supply Chain is Boring Classic: Profiles in Supply Chain Leadership with Richard Sharpe

    Oct 15, 2021·21m
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    A Few Minutes With Industry Veteran Ken Ackerman

    Oct 1, 2021·41m
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    How a Doctor in Economics Impacts Supply Chain Management: A Discussion with Dave Anderson Part 2

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    How a Doctor in Economics Impacts Supply Chain Management: A Discussion with Dave Anderson

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    SOBs, Yesterday's Tomorrows, & More: An Interview with Dr. Benn Konsynski

    Aug 20, 2021·43m
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    When is a refrigerator not a refrigerator? An Interview with Dr. Ron Ballou, Part 2

    Aug 6, 2021·26m
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    When is a refrigerator not a refrigerator? An Interview with Dr. Ron Ballou

    Jul 23, 2021·24m
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    An Insight into Supply Chain Careers with Industry Veteran Rodney Apple - Part 2

    Jul 9, 2021·28m
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    An Insight Into Supply Chain Careers with Industry Veteran Rodney Apple - Part 1

    Jun 25, 2021·32m
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    Supply Chain is Boring Classic: The 3 Rules of Business with Duncan Klett of Kinaxis

    Jun 11, 2021·32m
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    It's Never Too Late to Learn: Tips on Passing the APICS CSCP Exam

    May 28, 2021·27m
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    4 Things an Expert in Predictive Analytics is Watching in Supply Chain Management

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    Turning Retail Experience, Military Service, & an APICS CSCP Certification into a Supply Chain Career

    Apr 30, 2021·15m
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    What is Supply Chain Management & How Do Partnerships Play a Role? An Interview with Dr. Doug Lambert, Pt. 2

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    Inventory Carrying Cost- What It Is & Why it Matters: Interview with Dr. Doug Lambert, Pt. 1

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    Model of the New CEO: A Discussion with Enrique Alvarez

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    A Mathematician at Heart, Changing the World of Retail Supply Chain Management: Charu Thomas

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    Building a Supply Chain Community in Chattanooga, TN

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    Supply Chain Management in Government. Who Knew?

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    Non-Traditional Student Shares Tips for Breaking into Supply Chain Management Career

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    A Discussion with Bruce Welty Part 2: 5 of the Top 10 Richest People in the World Made Their Money in SCM?

    Jan 8, 2021·32m
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    A Discussion with Bruce Welty, Part 1: Is a Robot in Your Future?

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    Dec 18, 2020·37m
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    Remembering Some of the Thought Leaders Who Shaped Supply Chain as We Know it Today, Part 2

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    Remembering Some of the Thought Leaders Who Shaped Supply Chain as We Know it Today

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    The Three Rules of Business & More: Duncan Klett, Co-Founder of Kinaxis

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    You Know Him as a Supply Chain Now Host- But who is Greg White? Part 2

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    You Know Him as a Supply Chain Now Host- But who is Greg White? Part 1

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    Consultants are Boring: An Interview with Greg Owens

    Sep 18, 2020·34m
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    Supply Chain Management is Boring: Interview with Greg Cronin, Part 2

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    Supply Chain Management is Boring: Interview with Greg Cronin, Part 1

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    Aug 21, 2020·28m
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    Data Collection is Boring Part 2: More with Data and WMS Pioneer John Hill

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    Data Collection is Boring: Data and WMS Pioneer John Hill

    Jul 21, 2020·32m
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    CSCP Certifications are Boring: Christian Warren with CH Robinson

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    Warehousing is Boring Too: Ken Ackerman with K.B. Ackerman Company

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