
Art talk with songs still attached.
The gist
Strung Out is an arts conversation show built around working musicians, original songs, and the practical machinery behind creative lives. Martin Lawrence McCormack gives guests room to play, explain their process, and talk honestly about making work as independent artists.
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About Strung Out
Strung Out is an artist-led conversation series with music at its center and plenty of room for side roads. Martin Lawrence McCormack frames the show through creative labor, not celebrity gloss. Recent episodes spend real time with working musicians as they perform, reflect, and explain how their material comes together. The result feels closer to a studio visit than a press stop. Barrett Tasky’s appearance brings Americana songwriting, audio engineering, band life, and the practical knowledge that comes from years in a scene. The discussion keeps circling craft from different angles. There is the vulnerability of writing songs, the business experience of watching musicians navigate labels and touring, and the question of where a self-sufficient artist fits when they can play, record, mix, book, and broadcast. Herschel Edwards’ interview shifts the focus toward composition and creative systems. His process involves intricate moving parts, phone demos, scoring software, duo decision-making, and the patience required when half a band has to believe in an idea. Those details matter. Strung Out is at its best when it lets a guest describe the ordinary mechanics behind work that sounds magical from the outside. The show also has a restless range. A winter camping conversation with Kate Vogel moves from national parks in January to used gear, toilet tents, privacy, backcountry rules, and the ethics of waste in remote places. That episode is earthy and practical, but it still fits the larger pattern. McCormack is interested in how people meet the world directly, whether through a song, a score, a band, or a cold night outside. The pacing is conversational and sometimes shaggy. Songs interrupt the talk in the right way. Technical language sits beside jokes and sudden earnestness. Strung Out suits listeners who enjoy creative people talking at working speed, with the polish left low enough that the real process can show.
Made for: For listeners drawn to independent musicians, creative process, Americana, composition, and grounded conversations about making a life around art. It also suits people who enjoy occasional practical detours into nature and outdoor self-reliance.
What sets it apart: Strung Out pairs songs with patient process talk, letting musicians explain the tools, compromises, and independence behind their work. Its range can move from scoring software to winter camping without losing the artist’s-eye curiosity.
In their own words
Welcome to STRUNG OUT. The show is an eclectic mix of topics ranging from music, to art, to themes of the day to the supernatural to how to better this world we live in. If you like interesting conversation, along with some original music, we got your back. Martin McCormack resides in Chicago. He is known not only for his music, but for his writing and artwork. McCormack's entire catalogue of works can be viewed at www.MartinMcCormack.com. You can also see McCormack's involvement in the duo Switchback by visiting the website www.waygoodmusic.com.
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Episodes
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Strung Out Episode 238: THE RESPECT PERSPECTIVE WITH MARCUS GENTRY
·38m - 2
Strung Out Episode 265: BARRETT TASKY WRITES AGAIN
·58m - 3
Strung Out Episode 264: A PYRAMID OF BARRETT-THE MUSIC OF BARRET TASKY
·1h 3m - 4
Strung Out Episode 263: A MAGICAL BEAST-HERSHYL EDWARD'S CREATIVE PROCESS
·55m - 5
Episode 262: THE BEAT OF HIS DRUM-THE DYNAMISM OF HERSHYL EDWARDS.
·57m - 6
Strung Out Episode 216: OF MOOSE AND MUSIC.
·1h 1m - 7
Strung Out Episode 215: RED OR BLUE ALBUM NOTES 3
·27m - 8
Strung Out Episode 214: RED OR BLUE ALBUM NOTES 2
·27m - 9
Strung Out Episode 213: RED OR BLUE ALBUM NOTES
·27m - 10
Strung Out Episode 212: THE WORLD ROUNDUP FROM THE BACK YARD
·38m - 11
Strung Out Episode 211: THE EARLY CHILDHOOD CONUNDRUM
·38m - 12
Strung Out Episode 210: KNIGHT OF THE POETRY SLAM, SIR MARC SMITH
·47m - 13
Strung Out Episode 209: THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART WITH JONAS FRIDDLE
·44m - 14
Strung Out Episode 261: PLUMB THE SOUL-THE CREATIVE FORCE OF DOCTORSTARCRUMBS
·55m - 15
Strung Out Episode 260--Reaching for the stars-with Dr. Starcrumbs
·1h 1m - 16
Episode 259: THE DRIVEN MUSE-HOW CHARLIE OTTO GETS CREATIVE
·1h 2m - 17
Strung Out 258: THE BAND CALLED CHARLIE OTTO
·1h 8m - 18
Strung Out Episode 257: A CLEVER PEACH, THE CREATIVITY OF JIM TASHJIAN.
·46m - 19
Strung Out Episode 256: JIM TASHJIAN-- ON HIS TERMS
·57m - 20
Strung Out Episode 255: HOMEGROWN. THE CREATIVE WAYS OF LESLIE BEUKELMAN
·52m - 21
Strung Out Episode 254: THE SONGWRITER NEXT DOOR. LESLIE BEUKELMAN
·55m - 22
Strung Out Episode 253: MOMMA'S IN THE KITCHEN. THE CREATIVE CORE OF KELLI OWENS HUTTON
·47m - 23
Strung Out Episode 252: IF MOMMA AIN'T HAPPY-EXPLORING THE MOMCORE REVOLUTION WITH KELLI OWENS HUTTON
·1h 1m - 24
Strung Out Episode 251: THE REWARDING WORK-LIAM DAVIS' SONGCRAFT
·54m - 25
Strung Out Episode 250: MULTI-FACETED. THE DIAMOND WORLD OF LIAM DAVIS
·38m - 26
Strung Out Episode 249. NORA O'CONNOR: EMBRACING THE SONG
·51m - 27
Strung Out Episode 248: AMERICANA THE BEAUTIFUL--THE MUSIC OF NORA O'CONNOR
·53m - 28
Strung Out Episode 247: THE CREATIVE MIND OF TED RUSSELL KAMP.
·59m - 29
Strung Out Episode 246: CALIFORNIA SON-THE MUSIC OF TED RUSSELL KAMP
·1h 9m - 30
Strung Out Episode 245: CREATING THE DREAM-NIKKI O'NEILL AND RICH LACKOWSKI
·57m - 31
Strung Out Episode 244: THE TRAVELS, TALES AND TRIUMPH OF NIKKI O'NEILL AND RICH LACKOWSKI
·1h 2m - 32
STRUNG OUT EPISODE 243: THE SPACES IN-BETWEEN OF STEVE DAWSON
·45m - 33
Strung Out Episode 242: SINGER-SONGWRITER STEVE DAWSON/FROM SASKATCHEWAN TO CHICAGO
·54m - 34
Strung Out Episode 241: THE SONGWRITING CRAFT OF ERNIE HENDRICKSON
·1h 4m - 35
Strung Out Episode 240: ERNIE HENDRICKSON, JOURNEYMAN SINGER-SONGWRITER (Interview One)
·59m - 36
Strung Out Episode 239: THE RESPECT PERSPECTIVE WITH MARCUS GENTRY
·43m - 37
Strung Out Episode 266: THIS IS ME, I SWEAR-JUSTIN GILLAM
·1h 8m - 38
Strung Out Episode 237: THE CREATIVE ALCHEMY OF NAOMI ASHLEY AND JON WILLIAMS (part two)
·47m - 39
Strung Out Episode 236: THE DYNAMIC SONGWRITING AND PERFORMING TEAM OF NAOMI ASHLEY AND JON WILLIAMS. (PART ONE)
·53m - 40
Strung Out Episode 235: WINTER CAMPING WITH EXPERT KATE VOGEL. PART TWO
·29m - 41
Strung Out Episode 234: WINTER CAMPING WITH EXPERT KATE VOGEL. PART ONE
·34m - 42
Strung Out Episode 233: Meet Ma Gilmore
·40m - 43
Strung Out Episode 232: THE RESPECT PERSPECTIVE WITH MARCUS GENTRY
·29m - 44
Strung Out Episode 231: RESPECT PERSPECTIVE with Marcus Gentry
·37m - 45
Strung Out Episode 230: MARTYMUSIC HOLIDAY SONGS
·30m - 46
Strung Out Episode 229: WORLD ROUNDUP (FROM THE COUCH)
·44m - 47
Strung Out Episode 228: BRIDGING THE DIVIDE. A SEARCH FOR THE UNITED STATES. (PART TWO)
·56m - 48
Strung Out Episode 227: BRIDGING THE DIVIDE. A SEARCH FOR THE UNITED STATES. (PART ONE)
·46m - 49
Strung Out Episode 226. PART TWO OF ARTIST KENNY DARK POET LAPINS
·51m - 50
Strung Out Episode 225. ARTIST KENNY DARKPOET LAPINS
·51m - 51
Strung Out Episode 224. JOE LANASA AND THE FULTON STREET COLLECTIVE
·49m - 52
Strung Out Episode 223. Singer-Songwriter and founder of Fulton Street Collective, Joe Lanasa
·47m - 53
Strung Out Episode 222. THE WORLD ROUNDUP (FROM THE BACKYARD)
·49m - 54
Strung Out Episode 221:THE GREAT LIZ CARROLL-CHICAGO IRISH FIDDLE MASTER (PART TWO)
·47m - 55
Strung Out Episode 220: THE GREAT LIZ CARROLL-CHICAGO IRISH FIDDLE MASTER (PART ONE)
·49m - 56
Strung Out Episode 219: TOM LOUNGES, KEEPING THE MUSIC ALIVE (AND LOCAL)
·50m - 57
Strung Out Episode 218: ART AND MUSIC OF JON LANGFORD (PART 2)
·1h - 58
Strung Out Episode 217: ARTIST, MUSICIAN, LEGEND, JON LANGFORD, PART ONE.
·57m - 59
Strung Out Episode 208: SINGER-SONGWRITER JONAS FRIDDLE
·46m - 60
Strung Out Episode 207: THE WORLD ROUND UP FROM THE BACK YARD
·42m - 61
Strung Out Episode 206: AINE McCORMACK, PIANIST
·23m - 62
Strung Out Episode 205: FRIDA KAHLO
·32m - 63
Strung Out Episode 204: THE REWILDING OF THE NACHUSA GRASSLANDS.
·37m - 64
Strung Out Episode 203: THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART WITH GERALD DOWD. PART TWO.
·41m - 65
Strung Out Episode 202 THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART WITH GERALD DOWD. PART ONE
·36m - 66
Strung Out Episode 201. THE WORLD ROUNDUP FROM THE BACKYARD
·39m - 67
Strung Out Episode 200. THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART WITH CORY GOODRICH
·33m - 68
Strung Out Episode 199. THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART WITH CORY GOODRICH
·36m - 69
Strung Out Episode 198. THE WORLD ROUNDUP (FROM THE BACK YARD)
·48m - 70
Strung Out Episode 197 THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART WITH DAVID ROCCO FACCHINI. PART TWO.
·28m - 71
Strung Out Episode 196: THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART WITH DAVID ROCCO FACCHINI. PART ONE OF TWO.
·1h 1m - 72
Strung Out Episode 195. TICKS-COMING TO A TREE NEAR YOU.
·41m - 73
Strung Out Episode 194: WHAT THE IRISH CAN TEACH ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS
·45m - 74
Strung Out Episode 193: A TEN-YEAR OLD'S MIND.
·36m - 75
Strung Out Episode 192: INTERVIEW WITH CHICAGO POET HOWARD FRIEDMAN
·45m - 76
Strung Out Episode 191: Audioscapes
·27m - 77
Strung Out Episode 190: JIM POST AND THE LOST ERA OF CHICAGO FOLK
·50m - 78
Strung Out Episode 189: FREEGANISM, PART TWO.
·33m - 79
Strung Out Episode 188: FREEGANISM, PART ONE.
·31m - 80
Strung Out Episode 187: PART TWO. INTERVIEW WITH GARY GEIGER, CREATOR AND DIRECTOR OF THE EVANSTON CHILDREN'S CHOIR
·33m - 81
Strung Out Episode 186: PART ONE. INTERVIEW WITH GARY GEIGER, CREATOR AND DIRECTOR OF THE EVANSTON CHILDREN'S CHOIR
·31m - 82
Strung Out Episode 185: THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART. ANANDA BENA-WEBER, PART TWO.
·46m - 83
Strung Out Episode 184: THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART. ANANDA BENA-WEBER, PART ONE.
·49m - 84
Strung Out Episode 183. END OF YEAR REVIEW
·30m - 85
Strung Out Episode 182. CHRISTMAS DOLDRUMS
·39m - 86
Strung Out Episode 181. INVASION, MIGRATION AND FLAGS
·56m - 87
Strung Out Episode 180: DING DONG MERRILY ON HIGH, SOME HOLIDAY MUSIC
·32m - 88
Strung Out Episode 179: THE SWITCHBACK REPORT
·35m - 89
Strung Out Episode 178: PART TWO. INTERVIEW WITH KENNY PHEASANT
·28m - 90
Strung Out Episode 177: PART ONE. INTERVIEW WITH ANNISHINAABEMOWIN LANGUAGE EXPERT KENNY PHEASANT
·41m - 91
Strung Out Episode 176: THE WORLD ROUNDUP
·49m - 92
Strung Out Episode 175: PHILOSOPHY OF ART. PART TWO INTERVIEW WITH REBECCA JASSO ON ART
·50m - 93
Strung Out Episode 174: WHAT COULD BE SCARIER THAN HALLOWEEN?
·37m - 94
Strung Out Episode 173. PHILOSOPHY OF ART. SINGER-SONGWRITER-ARTIST REBECCA JASSO ON HER MUSIC.
·48m - 95
Strung Out Episode 172. THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART SERIES: AN INTERVIEW WITH SINGER-SONGWRITER RACHEL DREW.
·45m - 96
Strung Out Episode 171: PART TWO. INTERVIEW WITH MOVIE MAKER AND ARTIST DAVID ROCCO FACCHINI.
·48m - 97
Strung Out Episode 170: PART ONE. INTERVIEW WITH MOVIE MAKER AND ARTIST DAVID ROCCO FACCHINI.
·50m - 98
Strung Out Episode 169: THE PHILOSOPHY OF ART SERIES/NICHOLAS BARRON ARTIST.
·40m - 99
Strung Out Episode 168--The Philosophy of Art Series. THE MUSIC OF NICHOLAS BARRON.
·41m - 100
Strung Out Episode 167: SWITCHBACK ROUNDUP
·29m - 101
Episode 267: To Build the Temple-the Creative Destruction of Justin Gillam
Hidden gemMartin Lawrence McCormack interviews Justin Gillum about songwriting, independent music, and the creative process behind songs such as “Temple.” Gillum says he usually begins with one line, keeps handwritten pages visible, and may work on a single song for years.
Apr 19, 2026·1h 2m·4 clips - 102
Strung Out Episode 266: THIS IS ME, I SWEAR-JUSTIN GILLAM
Mar 29, 2026·1h 8m - 103
Strung Out Episode 265: BARRETT TASKY WRITES AGAIN
Mar 15, 2026·58m - 104
Strung Out Episode 264: A PYRAMID OF BARRETT-THE MUSIC OF BARRET TASKY
Hidden gemBarrett Tasky frames his work on Strung Out around "a pyramid of Barrett," with solo songs, a wife-led project, and a full band all in play.
Mar 1, 2026·1h 3m·2 clips - 105
Strung Out Episode 263: A MAGICAL BEAST-HERSHYL EDWARD'S CREATIVE PROCESS
Hidden gemMartin Lawrence McCormack and Herschel Edwards break down how Edwards builds Mooka Patsa and Bifunkle songs from phone notes, scored parts, and studio layering.
Feb 15, 2026·55m·2 clips - 106
Episode 262: THE BEAT OF HIS DRUM-THE DYNAMISM OF HERSHYL EDWARDS.
Hidden gemStrung Out host Martin Lawrence McCormack interviews multi-instrumentalist and teacher Herschel Edwards about sustaining a music career through performance and lessons.
Feb 1, 2026·57m·4 clips - 107
Strung Out Episode 261: PLUMB THE SOUL-THE CREATIVE FORCE OF DOCTORSTARCRUMBS
Jan 18, 2026·55m - 108
Strung Out Episode 260--Reaching for the stars-with Dr. Starcrumbs
Jan 4, 2026·1h 1m - 109
Episode 259: THE DRIVEN MUSE-HOW CHARLIE OTTO GETS CREATIVE
Dec 21, 2025·1h 2m - 110
Strung Out 258: THE BAND CALLED CHARLIE OTTO
Dec 7, 2025·1h 8m - 111
Strung Out Episode 257: A CLEVER PEACH, THE CREATIVITY OF JIM TASHJIAN.
Nov 23, 2025·46m - 112
Strung Out Episode 256: JIM TASHJIAN-- ON HIS TERMS
Nov 9, 2025·57m - 113
Strung Out Episode 255: HOMEGROWN. THE CREATIVE WAYS OF LESLIE BEUKELMAN
Oct 26, 2025·52m - 114
Strung Out Episode 254: THE SONGWRITER NEXT DOOR. LESLIE BEUKELMAN
Sep 21, 2025·55m - 115
Strung Out Episode 253: MOMMA'S IN THE KITCHEN. THE CREATIVE CORE OF KELLI OWENS HUTTON
Sep 7, 2025·47m - 116
Strung Out Episode 252: IF MOMMA AIN'T HAPPY-EXPLORING THE MOMCORE REVOLUTION WITH KELLI OWENS HUTTON
Aug 24, 2025·1h 1m - 117
Strung Out Episode 251: THE REWARDING WORK-LIAM DAVIS' SONGCRAFT
Aug 9, 2025·54m - 118
Strung Out Episode 250: MULTI-FACETED. THE DIAMOND WORLD OF LIAM DAVIS
Jul 27, 2025·38m - 119
Strung Out Episode 249. NORA O'CONNOR: EMBRACING THE SONG
Jul 13, 2025·51m - 120
Strung Out Episode 248: AMERICANA THE BEAUTIFUL--THE MUSIC OF NORA O'CONNOR
Jun 29, 2025·53m - 121
Strung Out Episode 247: THE CREATIVE MIND OF TED RUSSELL KAMP.
Jun 15, 2025·59m - 122
Strung Out Episode 246: CALIFORNIA SON-THE MUSIC OF TED RUSSELL KAMP
Jun 1, 2025·1h 9m - 123
Strung Out Episode 245: CREATING THE DREAM-NIKKI O'NEILL AND RICH LACKOWSKI
May 18, 2025·57m - 124
Strung Out Episode 244: THE TRAVELS, TALES AND TRIUMPH OF NIKKI O'NEILL AND RICH LACKOWSKI
May 4, 2025·1h 2m - 125
STRUNG OUT EPISODE 243: THE SPACES IN-BETWEEN OF STEVE DAWSON
Apr 20, 2025·45m - 126
Strung Out Episode 242: SINGER-SONGWRITER STEVE DAWSON/FROM SASKATCHEWAN TO CHICAGO
Apr 6, 2025·54m - 127
Strung Out Episode 241: THE SONGWRITING CRAFT OF ERNIE HENDRICKSON
Mar 23, 2025·1h 4m - 128
Strung Out Episode 240: ERNIE HENDRICKSON, JOURNEYMAN SINGER-SONGWRITER (Interview One)
Mar 8, 2025·59m - 129
Strung Out Episode 239: THE RESPECT PERSPECTIVE WITH MARCUS GENTRY
Mar 2, 2025·43m - 130
Strung Out Episode 238: THE RESPECT PERSPECTIVE WITH MARCUS GENTRY
Feb 23, 2025·38m - 131
Strung Out Episode 237: THE CREATIVE ALCHEMY OF NAOMI ASHLEY AND JON WILLIAMS (part two)
Feb 16, 2025·47m - 132
Strung Out Episode 236: THE DYNAMIC SONGWRITING AND PERFORMING TEAM OF NAOMI ASHLEY AND JON WILLIAMS. (PART ONE)
Feb 9, 2025·53m - 133
Strung Out Episode 235: WINTER CAMPING WITH EXPERT KATE VOGEL. PART TWO
Hidden gemMartin Lawrence McCormack and Kate Vogel record a second Strung Out winter-camping talk in the Chicago suburbs, with geese overhead and 30-degree weather.
Feb 2, 2025·29m·1 clip - 134
Strung Out Episode 234: WINTER CAMPING WITH EXPERT KATE VOGEL. PART ONE
Jan 26, 2025·34m - 135
Strung Out Episode 233: Meet Ma Gilmore
Jan 19, 2025·40m - 136
Strung Out Episode 232: THE RESPECT PERSPECTIVE WITH MARCUS GENTRY
Jan 12, 2025·29m - 137
Strung Out Episode 231: RESPECT PERSPECTIVE with Marcus Gentry
Jan 5, 2025·37m - 138
Strung Out Episode 230: MARTYMUSIC HOLIDAY SONGS
Dec 22, 2024·30m - 139
Strung Out Episode 229: WORLD ROUNDUP (FROM THE COUCH)
Dec 8, 2024·44m - 140
Strung Out Episode 228: BRIDGING THE DIVIDE. A SEARCH FOR THE UNITED STATES. (PART TWO)
Nov 24, 2024·56m - 141
Strung Out Episode 227: BRIDGING THE DIVIDE. A SEARCH FOR THE UNITED STATES. (PART ONE)
Nov 17, 2024·46m - 142
Strung Out Episode 226. PART TWO OF ARTIST KENNY DARK POET LAPINS
Nov 3, 2024·51m - 143
Strung Out Episode 225. ARTIST KENNY DARKPOET LAPINS
Oct 27, 2024·51m - 144
Strung Out Episode 224. JOE LANASA AND THE FULTON STREET COLLECTIVE
Oct 20, 2024·49m - 145
Strung Out Episode 223. Singer-Songwriter and founder of Fulton Street Collective, Joe Lanasa
Oct 13, 2024·47m - 146
Strung Out Episode 222. THE WORLD ROUNDUP (FROM THE BACKYARD)
Oct 6, 2024·49m - 147
Strung Out Episode 221:THE GREAT LIZ CARROLL-CHICAGO IRISH FIDDLE MASTER (PART TWO)
Sep 29, 2024·47m - 148
Strung Out Episode 220: THE GREAT LIZ CARROLL-CHICAGO IRISH FIDDLE MASTER (PART ONE)
Sep 22, 2024·49m - 149
Strung Out Episode 219: TOM LOUNGES, KEEPING THE MUSIC ALIVE (AND LOCAL)
Sep 8, 2024·50m - 150
Strung Out Episode 218: ART AND MUSIC OF JON LANGFORD (PART 2)
Sep 1, 2024·1h