Squaring the Strange

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Skepticism for strange claims and everyday puzzles.

The gist

Squaring the Strange is a conversational skepticism show led by Ben Radford and Celestia Ward. It moves from caricature and pareidolia to micronations, the Taos Hum, psychic claims, and witchcraft accusations, favoring evidence over easy answers.

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About Squaring the Strange

Squaring the Strange is a skepticism show with a broad appetite for the weird, the overinterpreted, and the deceptively ordinary. Its center of gravity is critical thinking, but the episodes rarely sound like lectures. Ben Radford and Celestia Ward talk through claims with the rhythm of people who have been doing this together for years. The show can start with anniversary chatter, book edits, holiday cleanup, or housekeeping, then pivot into a precise question about what evidence can actually show. Recent episodes have used caricature to explore why distorted faces feel unsettling. That conversation leads naturally into pareidolia, faces in noise, the face on Mars, and the human tendency to see human meaning in random patterns. Another episode turns micronations into a tour of homemade sovereignty, Melosia, micro-conventions, football clubs, holiday schedules, and the gap between legal seriousness and playful performance. The paranormal thread remains strong. The show revisits the Taos Hum, the chupacabra, miracle investigations, missing-person psychic claims, haunted houses, and Bigfoot headlines without treating mystery as proof. It also reaches into social harm, including Leo Igwe's work against witchcraft accusations in Africa. Those moments give the show stakes beyond debunking. A discussion of data with Kyle Polich examines when more information helps, when measurement distorts behavior, and why probability matters before declaring a hit meaningful. The hosts are skeptical, but not allergic to uncertainty. They often pause over nuance, especially when a subject is messy or political. Humor keeps the tone approachable. So does the willingness to say when a topic deserves more time than a quick segment can give. Squaring the Strange is strongest when it follows a strange claim back to perception, incentives, folklore, or missing context. It is for listeners who enjoy odd stories but want the machinery underneath them exposed.

Made for: For listeners who enjoy paranormal lore, folklore, science, and cultural oddities but want careful reasoning with the fun left intact. It suits people who like conversational skepticism more than rigid debate.

What sets it apart: The show pairs paranormal investigation with everyday critical-thinking problems, so a face on Mars, a micronation, a housing-policy question, and a witchcraft accusation can all belong in the same skeptical toolkit.

In their own words

Not just another "skeptical" podcast, it's a show about critical thinking and evidence-based analysis, using science and critical thinking to examine the world around us, from the mysterious and paranormal to the mundane.

As heard by us

Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Odd claims become clear studies of perception, evidence and community through Ben Radford and Celestia Ward's curious, good-humored scrutiny.

Squaring the Strange turns unusual claims into conversations about how people perceive evidence, form beliefs and build communities. Ben Radford and Celestia Ward keep the reasoning visible, testing assumptions through easy co-host exchanges and occasional guest discussions…

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A face on Mars becomes a lesson in how eagerly your brain volunteers for the hoax.

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  • Ben Radford and Celestia Ward to test a mystery without sanding off its weirdness
  • a Taos Hum claim followed beyond the spooky premise and into the evidence
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Episodes

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    Episode 238 - Electric vehicle mayhem with Brian Dunning

    ·1h 33m
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    Episode 276 - Micronation Machinations

    ·1h 11m
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    Episode 275 - Bigfoot Bombshell and Leo Igwe on fighting witchcraft accusations in Africa

    ·1h 43m
  4. 4

    Episode 274 - Houses after the haunting, with Kenny Biddle

    ·1h 34m
  5. 5

    Episode 273: Grab Bag! Ugly Veggies, Elk Death Conspiracy Redux & Inspirational Glurge

    ·1h 29m
  6. 6

    Episode 272 - The Data Drought with Kyle Polich

    ·1h 26m
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    Episode 271 - What can the Taos Hum teach us?

    ·1h 35m
  8. 8

    Episode 270 - Listener Questions and Looking Back at 2025

    ·1h 25m
  9. 9

    Episode 269: Fluoride fallacies and dentistry weirdness with Dr. Grant Ritchie, DDS

    ·1h 31m
  10. 10

    Episode 268 - Daniel Reed on Vegetable Man and Gray Barker

    ·1h 23m
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    Episode 267 - Billionaire Boogeymen with Brian Dunning

    ·1h 37m
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    Episode 266 - Jon Michael visits, plus corporate lore and legends!

    ·1h 46m
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    Episode 265 - The Alleged ghosts of the Territorial House, with Cody Polston

    ·1h 24m
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    Episode 264 - SCAMPOCALYPSE with Brian Brushwood

    ·1h 31m
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    Episode 262 - Bigfoot Tracks with Matt Crowley

    ·1h 34m
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    Episode 261 - Hobos, Swingers and Masons: Secret Signs in Plain Sight

    ·1h 24m
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    Episode 260 - Food History and Flavor Myths with Sarah Lohman

    ·1h 33m
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    Episode 259 - The Columbus poltergeist case, with Kenny Biddle

    ·1h 30m
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    Episode 258 - A ship of skeptics in the Bermuda Triangle!

    ·1h 28m
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    Episode 257 - A Skepticism Chat with Susan Gerbic

    ·1h 34m
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    Episode 256 - Look Into My Eyes with Richard Saunders

    ·1h 30m
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    Episode 255 - Phantom Attackers with Robert Bartholomew

    ·1h 41m
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    Episode 254 - Grimoires with Owen Davies

    ·1h 37m
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    Episode 253 - Pascual's farewell and the Berkshire UFO Abduction Incident

    ·1h 30m
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    Episode 252 - Acronyms, Bacronyms and Questionable Etymologies

    ·1h 41m
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    Episode 251 - Incredible tales of survival!

    ·1h 35m
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    Episode 250 - Cryptids go Pop! with Sharon Hill

    ·1h 24m
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    Episode 247 - Love Lies and Potions

    ·1h 41m
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    Episode 246 - Pop psych, superstitions, and luck with Stuart Vyse

    ·1h 36m
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    Episode 245 - Maligning the BMI: What is Body Mass Index for?

    ·1h 18m
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    Episode 244 - New Year's Day rituals, our yearly wrap-up, and some minor castration confusion

    ·1h 12m
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    Episode 243 - Drones and Christmas Folklore

    ·1h 18m
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    Episode 242 - FAIKs and Faiklore with Perry Carpenter

    ·1h 41m
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    Episode 241 - Wildfire Conspiracies with Gail de Vos

    ·1h 37m
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    Episode 240 - A second Trump term has skeptics worried

    ·1h 5m
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    Episode 239: Halloween sadists with Joel Best & zombie evolution with Mikel Koven

    ·1h 32m
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    Episode 277 - Your Brain on Caricature, with Jacob Shaw

    ·1h 55m
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    Episode 237 - Watery Weirdness

    ·1h 39m
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    Episode 236 - Pet Rumors and Catching Up with Kenny Biddle

    ·1h 35m
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    Episode 235 - Black Dog Folklore with Mark Norman

    ·1h 31m
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    Episode 234 - Hoofed Beasts: Pegasus, Unicorns, and Centaurs!

    ·1h 28m
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    Episode 233 - Sensed Presence Effect: Imaginary Friends When You Need Them Most

    ·1h 24m
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    Episode 232 - Brace yourselves. We talk politics.

    ·1h 43m
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    Episode 231 - Monster Hunts, then and now, with Daniel Loxton

    ·1h 31m
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    Episode 230 - Pseudoarchaeology and Misinformation in Chicano Studies, with Kurly Tlapoyawa

    ·1h 39m
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    Episode 229 - Skepticamp, Spiders, and the West Palm Beach Killer Clown Case

    ·1h 19m
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    Episode 228 - The Science of Weird Sh!t, with Chris French

    ·1h 44m
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    Episode 227 - Book bans, then and now

    ·1h 12m
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    Episode 226 - Dim Mak "the death touch" with Peter Huston

    ·1h 47m
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    Episode 225 - The folklore of Scooby Doo, with Mark Norman

    ·1h 32m
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    Episode 224.5 - Bonus episode! Our 6th anniversary!

    ·1h
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    Episode 224 - A Grab Bag of Springtime Skepticism

    ·1h 15m
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    Episode 223 - Deception Studies with Curt Anderson

    ·1h 41m
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    Episode 222 - Modifying the Weather

    ·1h 21m
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    Episode 220 - You are gonna believe this: Truth Default Theory

    ·1h 22m
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    Episode 219 - Ai yie yie! AI Roundtable with Kyle Polich

    ·1h 44m
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    Episode 218 - Requiem for Bigfoot

    ·1h 23m
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    Episode 217 - Dark Play with Libby Tucker

    ·1h 37m
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    Episode 216 - Absinthe, Murder and Panic

    ·1h 9m
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    Episode 215 - Dallas Zoo Animal Disappearances, with Kristina Downs

    ·1h 17m
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    Episode 214 - Gargoyles!

    ·1h 13m
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    Episode 213 - Gef the Talking Mongoose, with Sharon Hill

    ·1h 42m
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    Episode 212 - The Rise and Fall of Slenderman, with Andrea Kitta

    ·1h 19m
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    Episode 211 - SWAYSO Grab Bag and DragonCon Live!

    ·1h 38m
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    Episode 210 - The UFO movie THEY don't want you to see, with Brian Dunning

    ·1h 27m
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    Episode 209 - Agritainment and rural haunts with Betty Aquino

    ·1h 19m
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    Episode 208 - Feral kids, for real, kids?

    ·1h 28m
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    Episode 207 - Legend Tripping with Jeff Debies-Carl

    ·1h 36m
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    Episode 206 - We are Barbie, and Barbie is us

    ·1h 50m
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    Episode 205 - Banachek on Randi, Project Alpha and the New York Times

    ·1h 25m
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    Episode 204 - Of Submersibles and Cybermyths

    ·1h 45m
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    Episode 203 - The Dover Demon

    ·1h 15m
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    Episode 202 - Reincarnation Ruminations

    ·1h 35m
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    Episode 201 - Miraculous Chimayo

    ·1h 19m
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    Episode 200 - Circus of the Scars 200 - Circus of the Scars

    ·1h 44m
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    Episode 199 - Richard Saunders and the Great Australian Psychic Prediction Project

    ·1h 15m
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    Episode 198 - Rabbit Roundup! Folklore, Horror, and Fertility

    ·1h 20m
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    Episode 197 - Peter Ash of Under the Same Sun

    ·1h 6m
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    Episode 196 - News Grab Bag and Ben's Time in Malawi

    ·1h 12m
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    Episode 195 - The Bible Code Resurfaces, with David Thomas

    ·1h 8m
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    Episode 194 - The Missing 411 with Kyle Polich

    ·1h 5m
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    Episode 193 - Coke + Folklore = Cokelore!

    ·1h 4m
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    Episode 192 - Romance Scams with Wendy Hughes

    ·1h 31m
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    Episode 191 - Predictions, Mistakes and Films

    ·1h 25m
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    Episode 190 - Vile Vans and Sinister Sedans: Vehicular Vernacular in Folklore

    ·1h 15m
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    Episode 189 - "AI Cryptid" Loab and Lesser-known Lake Monsters

    ·1h 18m
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    Episode 188 - Reading between the Ley Lines

    ·1h 4m
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    Episode 187 - The Curious Case of Dr. Melba Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA, with guest Sharon Hill

    ·1h 27m
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    Episode 186 - Our Scary Favorites

    ·1h 18m
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    Episode 185: Dr. Stan Stepanic on Vampires

    ·1h 22m
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    Episode 184 - Djinnception and Pirates!

    ·1h 29m
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    Episode 183 - Secrets of the Coral Castle

    ·1h 10m
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    Episode 182 - "America the Fearful," with Ben Radford!

    ·1h 30m
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    Episode 181 - Hey, What Happened to My Penis? Koro Happened.

    ·1h 6m
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    Episode 180 - Burn Baby Burn . . . Effigies!

    ·1h 11m
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    Episode 179 - Deviant Death Rites and Bizarre Burials

    ·1h 37m
  97. 97

    Episode 249 - Grab bag: Remembering Joe Nickell, real-time folklore, "transgender mice," and RFK Jr. vs. measles

    A grab bag episode covering the legacy of Joe Nickell, real-time folklore, controversial studies on transgender mice, and RFK Jr.'s stance on measles, with housekeeping on a new documentary about Elizabeth Loftus.

    ·1h 4m
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    Episode 263 - The Tylenol Presser and Sailing Stones with Brian Dunning

    Ben Radford and Celestia Ward discuss the Tylenol presser and sailing stones with guest Brian Dunning.

    ·1h 20m
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    Episode 248 - Furries with Gail De Vos

    This episode explores the folklore and cultural perceptions surrounding furries, examining how they are often misunderstood and used as scare lore in political discourse.

    ·1h 19m
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    Episode 221 - What Giant Penguins Can Teach Us, with Daniel Loxton

    Ben Radford and Celestia Ward discuss a classic cryptozoology case involving a giant penguin sighting in Florida with guest Daniel Loxton, and touch on a recent defamation lawsuit win for scientist Michael Mann.

    ·1h 29m
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    Episode 277 - Your Brain on Caricature, with Jacob Shaw

    Hidden gem

    Squaring the Strange episode 277 opens on the show's ninth-anniversary milestone, with Ben Radford and Celestia Ward introducing Jacob Shaw, whose work connects caricature to the neuroscience of face perception.

    Apr 9, 2026·1h 55m·5 clips
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    Episode 276 - Micronation Machinations

    Hidden gem

    Celestia Ward and Ben Radford examine micronations, including Kevin Baugh's appointment-only Melosia in Nevada, Uri Geller's Republic of Lamb, and the cloud-based Joseon cyber nation.

    Mar 27, 2026·1h 11m·4 clips
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    Episode 275 - Bigfoot Bombshell and Leo Igwe on fighting witchcraft accusations in Africa

    Ben Radford and Celestia Ward introduce an interview with Dr.

    Mar 14, 2026·1h 43m
  104. 104

    Episode 274 - Houses after the haunting, with Kenny Biddle

    This episode explores the practical and legal aspects of buying or selling a house with a reported haunting, featuring guest Kenny Biddle.

    Feb 28, 2026·1h 34m
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    Episode 273: Grab Bag! Ugly Veggies, Elk Death Conspiracy Redux & Inspirational Glurge

    In this grab bag episode, the hosts discuss ugly vegetables, revisit an elk death conspiracy, and critique inspirational glurge.

    Feb 14, 2026·1h 29m
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    Episode 272 - The Data Drought with Kyle Polich

    Hidden gem

    Ben Radford and Celestia Ward open Squaring the Strange episode 272 with Kyle Polich, who is introduced as the “data skeptic” from Data Skeptic.

    Jan 31, 2026·1h 26m·2 clips
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    Episode 271 - What can the Taos Hum teach us?

    Hidden gem

    Squaring the Strange episode 271 focuses on the Taos Hum, which Ben Radford and Celestia Ward frame as one of New Mexico’s stranger local mysteries.

    Jan 17, 2026·1h 35m·2 clips
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    Episode 270 - Listener Questions and Looking Back at 2025

    Hidden gem

    Ben and Celestia open with listener questions for Squaring the Strange episode 270, then pivot into a review of Lee Strobel's "The Case for Miracles" and its Route 66 setup.

    Jan 2, 2026·1h 25m·2 clips
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    Episode 269: Fluoride fallacies and dentistry weirdness with Dr. Grant Ritchie, DDS

    Dec 20, 2025·1h 31m
  110. 110

    Episode 268 - Daniel Reed on Vegetable Man and Gray Barker

    Dec 6, 2025·1h 23m
  111. 111

    Episode 267 - Billionaire Boogeymen with Brian Dunning

    Nov 22, 2025·1h 37m
  112. 112

    Episode 266 - Jon Michael visits, plus corporate lore and legends!

    Nov 8, 2025·1h 46m
  113. 113

    Episode 265 - The Alleged ghosts of the Territorial House, with Cody Polston

    Oct 24, 2025·1h 24m
  114. 114

    Episode 264 - SCAMPOCALYPSE with Brian Brushwood

    Oct 10, 2025·1h 31m
  115. 115

    Episode 263 - The Tylenol Presser and Sailing Stones with Brian Dunning

    Sep 26, 2025·1h 20m
  116. 116

    Episode 262 - Bigfoot Tracks with Matt Crowley

    Sep 12, 2025·1h 34m
  117. 117

    Episode 261 - Hobos, Swingers and Masons: Secret Signs in Plain Sight

    Aug 28, 2025·1h 24m
  118. 118

    Episode 260 - Food History and Flavor Myths with Sarah Lohman

    Aug 15, 2025·1h 33m
  119. 119

    Episode 259 - The Columbus poltergeist case, with Kenny Biddle

    Aug 2, 2025·1h 30m
  120. 120

    Episode 258 - A ship of skeptics in the Bermuda Triangle!

    Jul 17, 2025·1h 28m
  121. 121

    Episode 257 - A Skepticism Chat with Susan Gerbic

    Jul 4, 2025·1h 34m
  122. 122

    Episode 256 - Look Into My Eyes with Richard Saunders

    Jun 21, 2025·1h 30m
  123. 123

    Episode 255 - Phantom Attackers with Robert Bartholomew

    Jun 7, 2025·1h 41m
  124. 124

    Episode 254 - Grimoires with Owen Davies

    May 24, 2025·1h 37m
  125. 125

    Episode 253 - Pascual's farewell and the Berkshire UFO Abduction Incident

    May 10, 2025·1h 30m
  126. 126

    Episode 252 - Acronyms, Bacronyms and Questionable Etymologies

    Apr 26, 2025·1h 41m
  127. 127

    Episode 251 - Incredible tales of survival!

    Apr 12, 2025·1h 35m
  128. 128

    Episode 250 - Cryptids go Pop! with Sharon Hill

    Mar 28, 2025·1h 24m
  129. 129

    Episode 249 - Grab bag: Remembering Joe Nickell, real-time folklore, "transgender mice," and RFK Jr. vs. measles

    Mar 14, 2025·1h 4m
  130. 130

    Episode 248 - Furries with Gail De Vos

    Hidden gem

    Squaring the Strange episode 248 moves from a viral anglerfish video to Gail DeVos's explanation of furry fandom.

    Mar 1, 2025·1h 19m·5 clips
  131. 131

    Episode 247 - Love Lies and Potions

    Feb 14, 2025·1h 41m
  132. 132

    Episode 246 - Pop psych, superstitions, and luck with Stuart Vyse

    Jan 31, 2025·1h 36m
  133. 133

    Episode 245 - Maligning the BMI: What is Body Mass Index for?

    Jan 18, 2025·1h 18m
  134. 134

    Episode 244 - New Year's Day rituals, our yearly wrap-up, and some minor castration confusion

    Jan 4, 2025·1h 12m
  135. 135

    Episode 243 - Drones and Christmas Folklore

    Dec 21, 2024·1h 18m
  136. 136

    Episode 242 - FAIKs and Faiklore with Perry Carpenter

    Dec 7, 2024·1h 41m
  137. 137

    Episode 241 - Wildfire Conspiracies with Gail de Vos

    Nov 22, 2024·1h 37m
  138. 138

    Episode 240 - A second Trump term has skeptics worried

    Nov 8, 2024·1h 5m
  139. 139

    Episode 239: Halloween sadists with Joel Best & zombie evolution with Mikel Koven

    Nov 1, 2024·1h 32m
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    Episode 238 - Electric vehicle mayhem with Brian Dunning

    Oct 19, 2024·1h 33m
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    Episode 237 - Watery Weirdness

    Oct 5, 2024·1h 39m
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    Episode 236 - Pet Rumors and Catching Up with Kenny Biddle

    Sep 21, 2024·1h 35m
  143. 143

    Episode 235 - Black Dog Folklore with Mark Norman

    Sep 9, 2024·1h 31m
  144. 144

    Episode 234 - Hoofed Beasts: Pegasus, Unicorns, and Centaurs!

    Aug 24, 2024·1h 28m
  145. 145

    Episode 233 - Sensed Presence Effect: Imaginary Friends When You Need Them Most

    Aug 9, 2024·1h 24m
  146. 146

    Episode 232 - Brace yourselves. We talk politics.

    Jul 26, 2024·1h 43m
  147. 147

    Episode 231 - Monster Hunts, then and now, with Daniel Loxton

    Jul 13, 2024·1h 31m
  148. 148

    Episode 230 - Pseudoarchaeology and Misinformation in Chicano Studies, with Kurly Tlapoyawa

    Jun 28, 2024·1h 39m
  149. 149

    Episode 229 - Skepticamp, Spiders, and the West Palm Beach Killer Clown Case

    Jun 15, 2024·1h 19m
  150. 150

    Episode 228 - The Science of Weird Sh!t, with Chris French

    May 31, 2024·1h 44m