Smart Mouth

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Food history with the footnotes read aloud.

The gist

Katherine Spiers hosts and produces Smart Mouth, a food history podcast whose subjects run from sesame balls and Asian chicken salad to hickory nuts and raw milk. At the end of each episode she reads out the sources she used, from the LA Times to JSTOR Daily, and links them in the show notes.

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About Smart Mouth

Smart Mouth is a food history podcast hosted and produced by Katherine Spiers, and its method is easy to spot. Pick a dish, an ingredient or a place. Find out where it came from. Then say exactly where the information was found. That last step is what sets the show apart. Episodes end with Spiers reading out her sources and pointing to the show notes. The lists run from the LA Times and PBS to JSTOR Daily, the USDA and Madame Wu's website, which is now found on the Wayback Machine. Episodes take two forms. Guest episodes are relaxed conversations that wander off topic. Jon Kung, a restaurant chef turned TikTok cooking influencer with a cookbook called Kung Food, joins for 'Asian Chicken Salad with Jon Kung'. The talk turns to what third culture means, including speaking one way at home and another at school. Hanna Raskin runs a website called The Food Section, aimed at eaters across the American South, and she talks through the food of her town, Charleston, South Carolina. In 'Sesame Balls with Kat Lieu', a question about why cha siu bao was called humbow in Seattle leads to a theory that the name plays on the Cantonese word for hamburger. Spiers finds that more convincing than the explanations she had found online. 'Food Gifts with Elle Simone Scott' at one point drifts off into a shared love of a TV series. Solo episodes stick closer to the research. 'Hickory, Pecans, and Soup' explains that the pecan is a type of hickory, that hickory belongs to the walnut family, and that the word pecan comes from an Algonquin word. Spiers adds that as a West Coaster she has no fixed pronunciation. 'Raw Milk' is a rebuttal. She goes through what raw milk advocates say, points out that pasteurized milk has the same amount of vitamin B12 as raw milk, and calls one pitch obfuscating rather than an outright lie. Openings follow their own routine. Spiers thanks Patreon, PayPal and Venmo supporters by name and reads Apple reviews aloud, including one that called the show nerdy and awesome. She sometimes adds a follow-up on a food news story, such as David Chang's attempt to trademark chili crunch or Wendy's surge pricing plan. Table Cakes, a woman-owned podcast company based in Los Angeles, produces the show, and Mika Grimm is credited as engineer. For a first listen, 'Raw Milk' shows the research-and-rebuttal side, and the Kat Lieu episode shows how far the guest format can go on a single word.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants to know why a dish is called what it is, likes chatty guest interviews mixed with researched solo episodes, and wants to be able to check the sources afterward.

What sets it apart: Spiers alternates loose guest conversations with solo research episodes and closes each one by naming her sources, from JSTOR Daily to regional newspapers, so every claim can be traced. She will also fact-check a food trend head-on, as in 'Raw Milk'.

In their own words

An addictively illuminating, often hilarious, conversational podcast about the surprising historiesbehind the foods we love.Hosted by independent journalist and food anthropologist, Katherine Spiers (LA Times, LA Weekly, KCET, Eater, How to Eat L.A.). Guests include Anthony Bourdain, Georgia Hardstark, Jacques Pepin, Llewellyn Clarke, Sarah Kuhn, Claudette Zepeda, Jon Garbus, Danny Trejo, Flula Borg and many other compelling people who eat food!

Why you'd press play

A Seattle bun nickname becomes a tiny mystery you may want to investigate at the bakery.

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  • to chase the possible origin of 'humbow' without pretending the case is closed
  • to hear third-culture cooking discussed through the experience of speaking differently at home and at school
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Best episodes of Smart Mouth

Short reviews from the PlayNext desk, based on the episodes we processed.

Charleston with Hanna RaskinJun 13, 2024

A focused look at how Charleston's dishes and church foodways carry history.

Charleston's food history is treated here as something lived through gatherings, menus, and the church tables that help make a city's culture edible.

Sesame Balls with Kat LieuJun 5, 2024

A curious food-history episode where humbow leads into Cantonese wordplay and Seattle-area food change.

Smart Mouth uses humbow as a neat entry point into the way food names travel, settle, and get retold. Katherine Spires and her guest stay with the Seattle use of the word, weighing a shaky online explanation about bun seams against a cleaner Cantonese link to hamburger.

Food Gifts with Elle Simone ScottMay 22, 2024

A warm SmartMouth episode about pies, See's chocolates, fika, and the meaning carried by shared treats.

SmartMouth treats food gifts as a way into personal taste, generosity, and the small rituals that make treats feel communal. Katherine Spires starts close to home, naming the gifts she likes to give and receive: pies made for other people, and See's chocolates, especially nuts…

Soul Rolls with KJ KearneyMar 27, 2024

School lunch policy opens a wider conversation about the history and politics carried by a dish.

Smart Mouth follows KJ Kearney into the politics and assumptions around food, using one dish as a way to show how much history can sit beneath familiar ingredients.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Jewish Food & Cookbooks

    ·22m
  2. 2

    Charleston with Hanna Raskin

    ·38m
  3. 3

    Sesame Balls with Kat Lieu

    ·36m
  4. 4

    Food Gifts with Elle Simone Scott

    ·37m
  5. 5

    Hickory, Pecans, and Soup

    ·10m
  6. 6

    Raw Milk

    ·20m
  7. 7

    Soul Rolls with KJ Kearney

    ·46m
  8. 8

    Queer Food with John Birdsall

    ·55m
  9. 9

    Which Animals Have Taste? With Katie Goldin

    ·1h 1m
  10. 10

    Salt the Chicken with Susan Jung

    ·37m
  11. 11

    Tyromancy with Jennifer Billock

    ·40m
  12. 12

    Replay: Eggnog with Drew Mackie

    ·38m
  13. 13

    Replay: Christmas Cookies with Kim-Joy

    ·40m
  14. 14

    Replay: Peppermint with Niccole Thurman

    ·44m
  15. 15

    Christmas Candy with Daniel Zafran

    ·52m
  16. 16

    The Official Turkey Pardon

    ·5m
  17. 17

    Eating Korean Food and Writing Books with Tien Nguyen

    ·41m
  18. 18

    Lady Desserts with Valerie Gordon

    ·54m
  19. 19

    Meat raffles and Snickers salads with Ben Mandelker

    ·1h 2m
  20. 20

    Beans with Sejal Sukhadwala

    ·53m
  21. 21

    Correct Episode! With Maya Lau

    ·48m
  22. 22

    Nescafé with Amy Nicholson

    ·36m
  23. 23

    Bay Leaves with Maya Lau

    ·48m
  24. 24

    Pumpkin Pie with Rossi Anastopoulo

    ·45m
  25. 25

    Industrial Meat and Coca-Cola with Jamie Loftus

    ·40m
  26. 26

    From Other People’s Pockets: Katherine’s Journey from Food Writer to Business Owner

    ·36m
  27. 27

    PBR with Sam Sanders

    ·44m
  28. 28

    Using Your Food with Tamar Adler

    ·47m
  29. 29

    Hotdish with Kristen Meinzer

    ·48m
  30. 30

    Popcorn with Dan Pashman

    ·47m
  31. 31

    Fika, Sweden's Obsession

    ·9m
  32. 32

    Comfort Food with Niccole Thurman

    ·46m
  33. 33

    Food in Fascist Italy with Diana Garvin

    ·46m
  34. 34

    Fake Meat with Jordan Myrick

    ·1h 12m
  35. 35

    Local Chinese Around the World with Cheuk Kwan

    ·49m
  36. 36

    Personal Foodways with Chris Scott

    ·42m
  37. 37

    Asian Chicken Salad with Jon Kung

    ·1h 7m
  38. 38

    From Not Lost: Anybody’s Gumbo in New Orleans

    ·50m
  39. 39

    Oxtails with Jesse Sparks

    ·48m
  40. 40

    History of NYC Restaurants with Nikita Richardson

    ·44m
  41. 41

    History of Criticism with Soleil Ho

    ·44m
  42. 42

    Hanky Pankies with Adrienne Cheatham

    ·36m
  43. 43

    Regarding Reviews with Dale Talde

    ·38m
  44. 44

    Nora Ephron's 'Critics in the World of the Rising Souffle (Or is it the Rising Meringue?)'

    ·31m
  45. 45

    Abby Fisher in San Francisco

    ·9m
  46. 46

    Running a Restaurant Now, & Korean History, with Ji Hye Kim

    ·46m
  47. 47

    Acadia: History & Food

    ·36m
  48. 48

    Thomas Downing & Oyster History

    ·9m
  49. 49

    Apples & the Downfall of the Red Delicious

    ·11m
  50. 50

    Coquito and Canned Goods

    ·14m
  51. 51

    Why Are U.S. School Lunches Like This?

    ·19m
  52. 52

    Cheap Wine Will Kill You with Jamel Johnson

    ·33m
  53. 53

    Legacy & Circus Peanuts with Laurie Woolever

    ·38m
  54. 54

    Persimmons with Kate Ramos

    ·39m
  55. 55

    Ruth Wakefield and the Chocolate Chip Cookie

    ·12m
  56. 56

    Ice Cream Floats with Kristen Miglore

    ·52m
  57. 57

    Trader Joe's

    ·12m
  58. 58

    Succotash with Kelsey Barnard Clark

    ·34m
  59. 59

    Bagels with David Page

    ·42m
  60. 60

    Mochi with Me

    ·10m
  61. 61

    Food of Singapore with Kheng Hua Tan

    ·1h 12m
  62. 62

    Pineapples with Andrew Ti

    ·1h 4m
  63. 63

    Guinness and Ireland with Emily Hourican

    ·1h 18m
  64. 64

    Garlic Bread with Andrea Wallace

    ·58m
  65. 65

    Enchiladas with Molly Lambert

    ·56m
  66. 66

    Breadlines and Famines with Jeremy Bowditch

    ·1h 26m
  67. 67

    Kraft Macaroni & Cheese

    ·19m
  68. 68

    Pocky with Tien Nguyen

    ·58m
  69. 69

    Breakfast with Kate Willett

    ·57m
  70. 70

    Tabbouleh (and Lebanese Food) with Nicole Georges

    ·48m
  71. 71

    Coconut Shrimp with Julia Loken

    ·1h 6m
  72. 72

    Tracing the West African Diaspora with Ozoz Sokoh

    ·54m
  73. 73

    Broccoli in Iceland with Jewells Chambers

    ·1h 8m
  74. 74

    Lunch Counters with Max Falkowitz

    ·52m
  75. 75

    Community Cookbooks with Paula Forbes

    ·52m
  76. 76

    Coffee with Nick Cho

    ·1h 1m
  77. 77

    Diversity in Native American Food with Loretta Barrett Oden

    ·55m
  78. 78

    Peppermint with Niccole Thurman

    ·44m
  79. 79

    Eggnog with Drew Mackie

    ·38m
  80. 80

    Christmas Cookies with Kim-Joy

    ·40m
  81. 81

    Beef Stroganoff with Jeff Gordinier

    ·53m
  82. 82

    Flavor with Nik Sharma

    ·50m
  83. 83

    Flamin' Hot Cheetos with Noah Cho

    ·52m
  84. 84

    Regency England with Bea Koch

    ·50m
  85. 85

    Craft Service with Emmy Raver-Lampman

    ·40m
  86. 86

    West African food with Eric Adjepong

    ·41m
  87. 87

    Penang Curry with Caleb Hearon

    ·40m
  88. 88

    Russian Food with Sofiya Alexandra

    ·52m
  89. 89

    Tacos with José R. Ralat

    ·57m
  90. 90

    Lee Anne Wong, Nini Nguyen, & Melissa King

    ·53m
  91. 91

    La Dolce Vita with Erica Firpo

    ·49m
  92. 92

    Soda Pop Part III: Diet Coke

    ·39m
  93. 93

    Soda Pop Part II: Ginger Ale & Mountain Dew

    ·36m
  94. 94

    Soda Pop: Part I

    ·33m
  95. 95

    Key Lime Pie with Rebecca Leib

    ·50m
  96. 96

    Chocolate with DeAnne Smith

    ·1h 1m
  97. 97

    Icebox Cake with Jessie Sheehan

    ·38m
  98. 98

    Meatloaf with Ashley Blaine Featherson

    ·51m
  99. 99

    Announcement

    ·1m
  100. 100

    Bakery Boxes with Kristina Cho

    Host Katherine Spiers interviews cookbook author Christina Cho about her book Mooncakes and Milk Bread, discussing food history and cultural significance.

    ·38m
  101. 101

    Asian Chicken Salad with Jon Kung

    Hidden gem

    John Kung tells Katherine Spires that the posts that blow up are often the ones he thinks are kind of stupid, not the videos he labors over.

    Jun 25, 2024·1h 7m·4 clips
  102. 102

    Charleston with Hanna Raskin

    Hidden gem

    Hannah Raskin tells Katherine Spires how The Food Section runs as a reader-supported food newsletter with three Southeast bureaus and one monthly freelance slot paid at $1,000 for 1,000 words.

    Jun 13, 2024·38m·2 clips
  103. 103

    Sesame Balls with Kat Lieu

    Hidden gem

    Fried sesame balls, shrimp toast, and an Instant Pot pho anchor Kat Lieu's Smart Mouth conversation about Modern Asian Kitchen.

    Jun 5, 2024·36m·2 clips
  104. 104

    Food Gifts with Elle Simone Scott

    Hidden gem

    Elle Simone Scott and Katherine Spires spend much of the conversation tracing food gifts from Caribbean care packages to Whitman's sugar-plum boxes and Richard Cadbury's heart-shaped chocolate box.

    May 22, 2024·37m·2 clips
  105. 105

    Hickory, Pecans, and Soup

    Apr 26, 2024·10m
  106. 106

    Raw Milk

    On Smart Mouth, Katherine Spires examines raw milk through food history, food-safety data, and her own decision to buy it.

    Apr 10, 2024·20m·2 clips
  107. 107

    Soul Rolls with KJ Kearney

    Hidden gem

    Smart Mouth with Katherine Spires centers on KJ Kearney, the Black Food Fridays founder and PBS Citizen Better host, as they trace soul rolls, red rice, and food politics.

    Mar 27, 2024·46m·3 clips
  108. 108

    Queer Food with John Birdsall

    Katherine interviews Jon Birdsall, author of The Man Who Ate Too Much, about whether queer food is defined by dishes or by historical context.

    Feb 28, 2024·55m·3 clips
  109. 109

    Which Animals Have Taste? With Katie Goldin

    Hidden gem

    Smart Mouth host Katherine and Creature Feature host Katie Goldin examine how animals experience taste, including why cats may lack sweet receptors but can detect ATP associated with meat.

    Feb 14, 2024·1h 1m·4 clips
  110. 110

    Salt the Chicken with Susan Jung

    Jan 24, 2024·37m
  111. 111

    Tyromancy with Jennifer Billock

    Jan 17, 2024·40m
  112. 112

    Replay: Eggnog with Drew Mackie

    Dec 26, 2023·38m
  113. 113

    Replay: Christmas Cookies with Kim-Joy

    Dec 20, 2023·40m
  114. 114

    Replay: Peppermint with Niccole Thurman

    Dec 13, 2023·44m
  115. 115

    Christmas Candy with Daniel Zafran

    Dec 6, 2023·52m
  116. 116

    The Official Turkey Pardon

    Nov 21, 2023·5m
  117. 117

    Eating Korean Food and Writing Books with Tien Nguyen

    Nov 15, 2023·41m
  118. 118

    Lady Desserts with Valerie Gordon

    Oct 18, 2023·54m
  119. 119

    Meat raffles and Snickers salads with Ben Mandelker

    Oct 4, 2023·1h 2m
  120. 120

    Beans with Sejal Sukhadwala

    Sep 20, 2023·53m
  121. 121

    Correct Episode! With Maya Lau

    Jun 14, 2023·48m
  122. 122

    Bay Leaves with Maya Lau

    Jun 8, 2023·48m
  123. 123

    Industrial Meat and Coca-Cola with Jamie Loftus

    May 24, 2023·40m
  124. 124

    From Other People’s Pockets: Katherine’s Journey from Food Writer to Business Owner

    May 9, 2023·36m
  125. 125

    PBR with Sam Sanders

    May 3, 2023·44m
  126. 126

    Using Your Food with Tamar Adler

    Apr 19, 2023·47m
  127. 127

    Hotdish with Kristen Meinzer

    Apr 5, 2023·48m
  128. 128

    Popcorn with Dan Pashman

    Mar 22, 2023·47m
  129. 129

    Fika, Sweden's Obsession

    Mar 8, 2023·9m
  130. 130

    Comfort Food with Niccole Thurman

    Feb 22, 2023·46m
  131. 131

    Food in Fascist Italy with Diana Garvin

    Host Katherine Spiers interviews Diana Garvin about her book on women's food work during fascist Italy, discussing perceptions of Italian food abroad.

    Feb 8, 2023·46m
  132. 132

    Fake Meat with Jordan Myrick

    Dec 14, 2022·1h 12m
  133. 133

    Local Chinese Around the World with Cheuk Kwan

    Nov 23, 2022·49m
  134. 134

    Pumpkin Pie with Rossi Anastopoulo

    Nov 9, 2022·45m
  135. 135

    Nescafé with Amy Nicholson

    Oct 26, 2022·36m
  136. 136

    Personal Foodways with Chris Scott

    Oct 12, 2022·42m
  137. 137

    Jewish Food & Cookbooks

    Sep 28, 2022·22m
  138. 138

    From Not Lost: Anybody’s Gumbo in New Orleans

    Jun 22, 2022·50m
  139. 139

    Oxtails with Jesse Sparks

    May 24, 2022·48m
  140. 140

    History of NYC Restaurants with Nikita Richardson

    Apr 13, 2022·44m
  141. 141

    History of Criticism with Soleil Ho

    Mar 30, 2022·44m
  142. 142

    Hanky Pankies with Adrienne Cheatham

    Mar 16, 2022·36m
  143. 143

    Regarding Reviews with Dale Talde

    Mar 2, 2022·38m
  144. 144

    Nora Ephron's 'Critics in the World of the Rising Souffle (Or is it the Rising Meringue?)'

    Feb 16, 2022·31m
  145. 145

    Running a Restaurant Now, & Korean History, with Ji Hye Kim

    Feb 2, 2022·46m
  146. 146

    Acadia: History & Food

    Jan 19, 2022·36m
  147. 147

    Thomas Downing & Oyster History

    Jan 5, 2022·9m
  148. 148

    Apples & the Downfall of the Red Delicious

    Dec 29, 2021·11m
  149. 149

    Coquito and Canned Goods

    Dec 22, 2021·14m
  150. 150

    Why Are U.S. School Lunches Like This?

    Dec 15, 2021·19m