A focused look at how Charleston's dishes and church foodways carry history.
Charleston's food history is treated here as something lived through gatherings, menus, and the church tables that help make a city's culture edible.

Food history with the footnotes read aloud.
Katherine Spiers hosts and produces Smart Mouth, a food history podcast whose subjects run from sesame balls and Asian chicken salad to hickory nuts and raw milk. At the end of each episode she reads out the sources she used, from the LA Times to JSTOR Daily, and links them in the show notes.
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Smart Mouth is a food history podcast hosted and produced by Katherine Spiers, and its method is easy to spot. Pick a dish, an ingredient or a place. Find out where it came from. Then say exactly where the information was found. That last step is what sets the show apart. Episodes end with Spiers reading out her sources and pointing to the show notes. The lists run from the LA Times and PBS to JSTOR Daily, the USDA and Madame Wu's website, which is now found on the Wayback Machine. Episodes take two forms. Guest episodes are relaxed conversations that wander off topic. Jon Kung, a restaurant chef turned TikTok cooking influencer with a cookbook called Kung Food, joins for 'Asian Chicken Salad with Jon Kung'. The talk turns to what third culture means, including speaking one way at home and another at school. Hanna Raskin runs a website called The Food Section, aimed at eaters across the American South, and she talks through the food of her town, Charleston, South Carolina. In 'Sesame Balls with Kat Lieu', a question about why cha siu bao was called humbow in Seattle leads to a theory that the name plays on the Cantonese word for hamburger. Spiers finds that more convincing than the explanations she had found online. 'Food Gifts with Elle Simone Scott' at one point drifts off into a shared love of a TV series. Solo episodes stick closer to the research. 'Hickory, Pecans, and Soup' explains that the pecan is a type of hickory, that hickory belongs to the walnut family, and that the word pecan comes from an Algonquin word. Spiers adds that as a West Coaster she has no fixed pronunciation. 'Raw Milk' is a rebuttal. She goes through what raw milk advocates say, points out that pasteurized milk has the same amount of vitamin B12 as raw milk, and calls one pitch obfuscating rather than an outright lie. Openings follow their own routine. Spiers thanks Patreon, PayPal and Venmo supporters by name and reads Apple reviews aloud, including one that called the show nerdy and awesome. She sometimes adds a follow-up on a food news story, such as David Chang's attempt to trademark chili crunch or Wendy's surge pricing plan. Table Cakes, a woman-owned podcast company based in Los Angeles, produces the show, and Mika Grimm is credited as engineer. For a first listen, 'Raw Milk' shows the research-and-rebuttal side, and the Kat Lieu episode shows how far the guest format can go on a single word.
Made for: Suits a listener who wants to know why a dish is called what it is, likes chatty guest interviews mixed with researched solo episodes, and wants to be able to check the sources afterward.
What sets it apart: Spiers alternates loose guest conversations with solo research episodes and closes each one by naming her sources, from JSTOR Daily to regional newspapers, so every claim can be traced. She will also fact-check a food trend head-on, as in 'Raw Milk'.
An addictively illuminating, often hilarious, conversational podcast about the surprising historiesbehind the foods we love.Hosted by independent journalist and food anthropologist, Katherine Spiers (LA Times, LA Weekly, KCET, Eater, How to Eat L.A.). Guests include Anthony Bourdain, Georgia Hardstark, Jacques Pepin, Llewellyn Clarke, Sarah Kuhn, Claudette Zepeda, Jon Garbus, Danny Trejo, Flula Borg and many other compelling people who eat food!
A Seattle bun nickname becomes a tiny mystery you may want to investigate at the bakery.
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Short reviews from the PlayNext desk, based on the episodes we processed.
A focused look at how Charleston's dishes and church foodways carry history.
Charleston's food history is treated here as something lived through gatherings, menus, and the church tables that help make a city's culture edible.
A curious food-history episode where humbow leads into Cantonese wordplay and Seattle-area food change.
Smart Mouth uses humbow as a neat entry point into the way food names travel, settle, and get retold. Katherine Spires and her guest stay with the Seattle use of the word, weighing a shaky online explanation about bun seams against a cleaner Cantonese link to hamburger.
A warm SmartMouth episode about pies, See's chocolates, fika, and the meaning carried by shared treats.
SmartMouth treats food gifts as a way into personal taste, generosity, and the small rituals that make treats feel communal. Katherine Spires starts close to home, naming the gifts she likes to give and receive: pies made for other people, and See's chocolates, especially nuts…
School lunch policy opens a wider conversation about the history and politics carried by a dish.
Smart Mouth follows KJ Kearney into the politics and assumptions around food, using one dish as a way to show how much history can sit beneath familiar ingredients.


Follow the food and you find the politics.

Where Asia's favourite foods came from, one at a time.
Host Katherine Spiers interviews cookbook author Christina Cho about her book Mooncakes and Milk Bread, discussing food history and cultural significance.
John Kung tells Katherine Spires that the posts that blow up are often the ones he thinks are kind of stupid, not the videos he labors over.
Hannah Raskin tells Katherine Spires how The Food Section runs as a reader-supported food newsletter with three Southeast bureaus and one monthly freelance slot paid at $1,000 for 1,000 words.
Fried sesame balls, shrimp toast, and an Instant Pot pho anchor Kat Lieu's Smart Mouth conversation about Modern Asian Kitchen.
Elle Simone Scott and Katherine Spires spend much of the conversation tracing food gifts from Caribbean care packages to Whitman's sugar-plum boxes and Richard Cadbury's heart-shaped chocolate box.
On Smart Mouth, Katherine Spires examines raw milk through food history, food-safety data, and her own decision to buy it.
Smart Mouth with Katherine Spires centers on KJ Kearney, the Black Food Fridays founder and PBS Citizen Better host, as they trace soul rolls, red rice, and food politics.
Katherine interviews Jon Birdsall, author of The Man Who Ate Too Much, about whether queer food is defined by dishes or by historical context.
Smart Mouth host Katherine and Creature Feature host Katie Goldin examine how animals experience taste, including why cats may lack sweet receptors but can detect ATP associated with meat.
Host Katherine Spiers interviews Diana Garvin about her book on women's food work during fascist Italy, discussing perceptions of Italian food abroad.