Real Women's Work Podcast

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Where women's work meets grief, memory and reinvention.

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Real Women's Work Podcast puts women's voices first, and its conversations stay close to loss: engraved gifts timed to death anniversaries, monthly 'death over coffee' gatherings, the Gravestone Girls, and Salem through Rebecca Nurse. The tone is warm and admiring, and the interviewer admits to having known the witch trials only secondhand before these conversations.

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About Real Women's Work Podcast

Real Women's Work Podcast calls itself a podcast and platform for women's voices, and its interviews go well beyond job titles. What stands out is where the conversations keep landing: grief, dying, gravestones and the Salem witch trials. None of it is played for shock. The grief episode gives plain advice: silence and absence hurt more than any wrong word, so send the text, send the gift, make the call. A guest there describes a service that delivers engraved heirloom gifts of crystal and carved wood on holidays, wedding anniversaries and the anniversary of a death, and presents it as a way of keeping Darius's legacy alive. With Laura Cleminson, the subject is dying itself. The episode describes monthly community conversations called 'death over drinks' or 'death over coffee', where one dialogue starter replaces a ninety-minute free-for-all and people sign up months ahead. One line sums up the approach: every conversation on dying has to do with living. History gets the same seriousness. The Rebecca Nurse episode sets the people who once stood outside to hear the accused condemned beside the people who stood outside to hear her commemorated. It also covers how the Rebecca Nurse Homestead was bought in the early 1900s by citizens who wanted to preserve the house and its story. The interviewer admits to having understood the trials only through other people, and says they now bring nothing but sadness and disbelief. Brenda Sullivan, founder of Gravestone Girls, has a conversation that runs to a Part 2. She describes leaving a 'soul-sucking day job' at a multi-billion-dollar company, then corrects her own advice to just leap: there was a lot of planning first. Her test is hard to forget. If you cry all the way home from work, it is time to change your seat. She also calls herself a wild woman and admits she wanted to be Stevie Nicks. Linda Ugelow, a speaking confidence coach and author of 'Delight in the Limelight', moves the talk toward healing and the weight of the 'psychic closet'. The interviewer confesses to expecting a public-speaking book and finding it was about much more. The register is warm and openly admiring. One guest is told she is 'the warmest soul', and another is praised for showing up as herself in a corporate job. Episodes close by thanking listeners for helping 'raise the tide for all of us'. For practical help, start with the grief episode. For a story of reinvention, start with Brenda Sullivan.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants warm, admiring interviews with women whose work touches grief, dying, history and personal reinvention, and who prefers hard subjects handled gently rather than sensationally.

What sets it apart: It treats mortality as ordinary conversation: grief gifts, 'death over coffee' gatherings, gravestones and the Salem witch trials sit beside career reinvention and speaking confidence, all handled with warmth rather than morbidity.

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Women are powerful. This is how we work.

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The gravestone expert might be the one who makes you reconsider your day job.

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  • to hear a cemetery educator explain the planning behind leaving a job that made her cry on the way home
  • to show up for a grieving friend without rehearsing the perfect sentence
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How to Show Up for Someone in Grief (When You Don't Know What to Say)Apr 8, 2026

A practical, warm conversation about staying present when grief makes connection harder.

Grief is framed here as both a private sorrow and a social absence, the kind that reveals who keeps showing up and who quietly fades away. Kelly Edmondson, a nurse executive, grief counselor, and founder of Timely Presence, speaks from the loss of her son Darius, turning that…

Rebecca Nurse and The Danger of Being Human: The Salem Witch Trials and What They Reveal About UsMar 19, 2026

A thoughtful episode about Rebecca Nurse, Salem, and the responsibility of preserving painful memory.

This episode approaches the Salem witch trials through the question of how a life is remembered after violence has made it symbolic. It begins with Rebecca Nurse herself, sitting with the sadness of her death, before widening into a more reflective conversation about why the…

Brenda Sullivan, Gravestone Girls Part 2Feb 26, 2026

Brenda Sullivan turns a corporate escape story into a clear-eyed look at mystery, evidence, and easy supernatural answers.

Brenda Sullivan, founder of the Gravestone Girls, recalls the strain of staying in a soul-sucking corporate job and the practical planning that let her leave.

Brenda Sullivan Founder, Gravestone GirlsFeb 13, 2026

A corporate exit becomes a lively case for welcoming people back into cemeteries.

Brenda Sullivan's shift out of a nasty corporate job and into fuller work with the Gravestone Girls gives this single-episode review a clear shape: the change was planned before it was brave.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    How to Show Up for Someone in Grief (When You Don't Know What to Say)

    Hidden gem

    Real Women's Work's 'How to Show Up for Someone in Grief (When You Don't Know What to Say)' centers Kelly Edmondson, a nurse executive, grief counselor, and founder of Timely Presence.

    Apr 8, 2026·1h 14m·5 clips
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    Rebecca Nurse and The Danger of Being Human: The Salem Witch Trials and What They Reveal About Us

    Hidden gem

    Rebecca Nurse's 1692 case drives this Real Women's Work conversation with Catherine Rutkowski, president of the Rebecca Nurse Homestead, who treats the 71-year-old Salem woman as a specific person rather than a Halloween symbol.

    Mar 19, 2026·59m·4 clips
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    What Happens When We Start Talking About Dying with Laura Cleminson

    Hidden gem

    Real Women's Work speaks with Laura Clemonson, a death doula and founder of the Pre-Dead Social Club, about why "every conversation on dying has to do with living." Laura argues that there is "no expert on death" and that words like titles or hierarchy can make mortality feel more exclusive than it needs to be.

    Mar 13, 2026·1h 5m·4 clips
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    Brenda Sullivan, Gravestone Girls Part 2

    Hidden gem

    ["Real Women's Work's part-two interview with Brenda Sullivan, founder of Gravestone Girls, opens on her decision to leave a \"soul-sucking\" corporate job so the business could grow.", "She ties gravestones to preservation, Victorian family history, and a childhood spent in an antique-dealer household and the family cemetery.", "Brenda talks about a 24-foot silver hearse with purple flames, a blue-hair threat from her mother, and a stubborn refusal to let labels like \"goth girl\" define her.", "The conversation ends with modern burial, green burial, aquamation, Mount Moriah, and her oral-cancer survival, which turns the interview into a practical talk about mortality."]

    Feb 26, 2026·45m·3 clips
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    Brenda Sullivan Founder, Gravestone Girls

    Hidden gem

    Brenda Sullivan says she left a multi-billion-dollar corporate job after spending years building Gravestone Girls as a side business.

    Feb 13, 2026·47m·3 clips
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    Wendy Peirce Vice President of Sales, Alnoba Leadership and Team Development

    Hidden gem

    Real Women's Work host talks with Wendy Pierce, vice president of sales at Alnova, a 600-acre leadership and team development retreat in Kensington, New Hampshire.

    Jan 29, 2026·1h 3m·2 clips
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    Life Coach for Mums with Trisha Gudka

    At 40, Trisha Gudka says she could not face another 40 years with depression and began looking for a way forward.

    Jan 10, 2026·1h 6m·2 clips
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    Cheryl Holling, Podcast Host and Voice Talent

    Hidden gem

    Cheryl Holling describes how her podcast '19 Stories from Fear to Hope' began in March 2020 as an audio journal of COVID-era creatives, after she had sat on a 'Thrive After 55' idea for five years.

    Nov 27, 2025·1h 25m·2 clips
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    Sasha Graham, Host, Sports Will Save Us All Podcast

    Hidden gem

    Sasha Graham says her podcast Sports Will Save Us All grew from her love of sports, conversation, and a feeling of disconnection after writing two children’s books.

    Nov 20, 2025·1h 4m·2 clips
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    What I Learned from the Women of the Salem Witch Trials

    Nov 14, 2025·27m
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    Kathryn Rutkowski, President, Rebecca Nurse Homestead

    Hidden gem

    Kathryn Rutkowski, board president of the Rebecca Nurse Homestead, tells the story of Rebecca Nurse, who was 71 when she was accused in 1692, and says she was convicted despite a neighbors' petition.

    Nov 7, 2025·1h 14m·2 clips
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    Kathryn Rutkowski, President, The Rebecca Nurse Homestead

    Nov 7, 2025·1h 14m
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    Paula Richter, Curator, Salem Witch Trials 1692 at the Peabody Essex Museum

    Oct 30, 2025·1h 7m
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    Rachel Christ-Doane, Salem Witch Museum Director of Education

    Oct 24, 2025·1h
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    Amanda Giles: Organizer, Portsmouth Halloween Parade

    Oct 15, 2025·57m
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    Diets Don't Work with Debbie Lesko

    Oct 4, 2023·1h 24m
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    Confidence Coach & Psychotherapist with Anna Marcolin

    Jul 26, 2023·58m
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    Writer, Writing Coach, Author of "Writing that Gets Noticed"

    Jul 10, 2023·1h 12m
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    Weight Inclusive Physical Therapist & Anti-Diet Health & Body Image Coach with Dr. Lisa Folden

    Jun 28, 2023·1h 3m
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    Speaking Confidence Coach with Linda Ugelow, Author of "Delight in the Limelight"

    Linda Ugelow discusses how healing past wounds can free you to enjoy life and overcome fears like public speaking.

    Jun 13, 2023·1h 6m
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    Master Welder and Founder of Weld Jointed with Pa'Trice Frazier

    Master welder Patrice Frazier discusses her work and her company Weld Jointed, which trains youth in welding to address the welder shortage.

    May 30, 2023·1h 14m
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    Brand Photographer, Strategist, and Video Storyteller with Nicole Bedard

    May 15, 2023·1h 5m
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    Lori Frisher, CEO/Disability Empathy Strategist Ready or Not! Mediahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/lorifrisher/

    Jan 27, 2023·52m
  24. 24

    Jenny Goldfarb, Founder & CEO of Unreal Deli

    Jan 13, 2023·47m
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    Senior Buyer for a Major Catalog with Jess Shaw

    Nov 14, 2022·57m
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    Menstrual Health Coach

    Nov 2, 2022·1h 8m
  27. 27

    Horror Artist and Prop Builder with Steph Strensrud

    Oct 13, 2022·52m
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    Forensic Psychologist, Kate Wallinga

    Sep 7, 2022·59m
  29. 29

    Emilie Given, She's a Given Executive Virtual Assistant Services, CEO & Founder

    Jun 4, 2021·59m
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    Beth Tykodi, Genealogist

    May 26, 2021·58m
  31. 31

    Dottie Janson, Amateur Competitive Figure Skater

    Nov 16, 2020·1h 15m
  32. 32

    Julia Schuster, Core team member of Showing up for Racial Justice (SURJ) Denver

    Jun 21, 2020·1h 3m
  33. 33

    Parenting through Covid-19 with Roya Dedeaux Marriage and Family Therapist

    A therapist discusses how parenting during Covid-19 should focus on safety and security rather than rigid schedules.

    Mar 19, 2020·1h 3m
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    Civil Rights Attorney with Sandra Hanshaw Burink

    Mar 4, 2020·51m
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    Hawker for Colorado Rockies Games with Katie Eckhardt

    Aug 30, 2019·55m
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    A Note, A Thank You, and A Story from Jen

    Jul 24, 2019·8m
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    Maria Fuller Founder of Raising a Powerful Girl and Empowered Girl Movement

    Jul 9, 2019·1h 4m
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    Crisis and Performance Coach for Entrepreneurs and Public Figures with Gloria Mitchell

    Jun 25, 2019·1h 3m
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    Self-Care Beyond Bubble Baths: A Solocast with your Host Jen Keefe

    Jun 11, 2019·1h 2m
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    CEO of She Plays: First US Sports Fantasy Site Covering Women Athletes with Ashley Hart

    May 29, 2019·49m
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    Impostor Syndrome Workshop with Crystal Mazur, Award Winning Game Writer

    A workshop on impostor syndrome featuring award-winning game writer Crystal Mazur, hosted by Jen Keefe on the Real Women's Work podcast.

    May 14, 2019·1h 4m
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    Doctor of Oriental Medicine, Speaker, Women's Health Advocate with De'Nicea Hilton

    Apr 21, 2019·52m
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    Stay at Home Mom and Home/Unschooling Mom with Martha Delmore

    Apr 10, 2019·48m
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    Vintage Small Business Owner with Lexi Wilson

    Mar 26, 2019·1h 8m
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    International Hair Stylist and Studio Owner Traci Estrada

    Mar 13, 2019·1h 37m
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    Moms Demand Action Leader Stop Gun Violence in America with Jessica Price

    Feb 26, 2019·1h 6m
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    Medical Office Coordinator with My Mom Pat Keefe Co Hosted By My Daughter Sydney

    Feb 11, 2019·52m
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    Creating Whimsical Art and Putting it on Paper

    Jan 29, 2019·1h
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    The Book Lady: Direct Selling, Caring for Customers, and Gaining Professional Skills

    Jan 7, 2019·1h 13m
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    Delivering Humanitarian Aid to Syria with Nadia Alawa Founder and President of NuDay Syria

    An interview with Nadia Alawa, founder of NuDay Syria, discussing her work delivering humanitarian aid to Syria and maintaining hope amidst suffering.

    Dec 18, 2018·1h 5m