Real CyberSecurity

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Cybersecurity without the panic theater.

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Real CyberSecurity treats cybersecurity as everyday operational work, not abstract panic. Greg Young and Bill Malik range from breach disclosure and election systems to spam, Splunk, third-party risk, and security myths.

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Real CyberSecurity presents cybersecurity as a set of working problems rather than a theater of constant alarm. Greg Young and Bill Malik talk through the business, process, and technical sides of security with a tone that is relaxed but rarely vague. The show is strongest when it connects the incident of the week to an older pattern. A breach becomes a discussion about help desks, privileged access, social engineering, and organizational readiness. Election security leads toward registration processes, poll books, disinformation, physical safeguards, and the unglamorous work of securing people and materials. Risk conversations stay grounded in what can be defended, measured, or usefully assessed. That makes episodes on GRC and third-party risk feel less like checklist talk and more like a debate over how decisions are actually made. The catalog also returns to security myths, misconceptions, startup funding challenges, spam, open source trust, vendor strategy, AI, and the recurring gap between tool promises and operational reality. It is conversational. It is also pointed. The speakers are comfortable joking about Skynet, old conference tools, Faraday cages, and the history of spam, then moving directly into why a control, process, or claim may fail in practice. The result is not a headline recap. It is a seasoned read on how cybersecurity lands inside institutions with budgets, cultures, incentives, and legacy systems. Guests such as Jeff Wheatman and Professor Eugene Spafford bring focused discussions of risk, GRC, and security misconceptions into that same practical lane. The show suits listeners who want experienced cybersecurity analysis without motivational gloss or panic framing. Its edge comes from plain judgment: less fear, more scrutiny, and a bias toward what organizations can actually do next.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants cybersecurity discussed through operations, governance, risk, and real organizational behavior. It also fits people who prefer experienced, conversational analysis over hype cycles.

What sets it apart: Real CyberSecurity stands apart by tying current security topics to older lessons, workplace realities, and practical constraints. The show can talk about breach headlines, election systems, and risk models without losing the human side of why security succeeds or fails.

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The Real Cybersecurity Podcast decrypts the issues and business of technology security. But instead of just scaring you, these industry veterans provide real advice and analysis for organizations trying to make security real today. Hosted by Greg Young and Bill Malik.

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  • Greg Young and Bill Malik to ask how a help desk reset became a major breach
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Ep. 70 - Election SecurityOct 16, 2023

A practical election-security discussion that keeps poll books, workers, devices, and deepfake hype in the same frame.

Election security gets a grounded, useful treatment as Greg Young and Bill Malik move from registration-process security and the choice between offline and online electronic poll books into the less glamorous work of poll workers, devices, documents, and tamper-proof seals.

Ep. 69 - AI, Breaches, Splunk, and Bears, Oh MyOct 6, 2023

A help-desk reset, Cisco's Splunk deal, and a Donald Duck joke sharpen a practical look at cybersecurity pressure points.

Real Cybersecurity frames a messy cybersecurity news week around a blunt theme: big security failures often begin with ordinary process breakdowns.

Ep. 67 - Guest Jeff Wheatman, GRC, 3rd Party Risk, & More RiskSep 5, 2023

A grounded look at where risk math gets shaky and how teams can choose what deserves attention first.

Real Cybersecurity uses third-party risk and GRC to ask how precise cybersecurity decisions can really be. Greg Young and Bill Malek's conversation with Jeffrey Wietman, whose role at BlackKite anchors the subject, ranges from the still-distant idea of a digital twin for a whole…

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Episodes

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    Ep. 73 - Breach Disclosure Laws, Water Treatment, Faraday, and Walking Around

    Hidden gem

    Greg Young and Bill Malek open Real CyberSecurity with a White House Faraday-cage story, then jump to 23andMe's breach estimate rising to 6 million and the SEC 8-K that disclosed it.

    Dec 14, 2023·46m·3 clips
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    Ep. 72 - CISOs & the SEC, Cybersec Digital Fight Club, & Twitter

    Nov 17, 2023·48m
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    Episode 71 - Biggest Cybersecurity Tech & Idea Fails in 2023

    Oct 30, 2023·32m
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    Ep. 70 - Election Security

    Hidden gem

    Greg Young and Bill Malik focus on the Canadian Centre for Cyber Security’s unclassified guidance on electronic poll book systems, including ITSM 10.101 and the choice between offline and online models.

    Oct 16, 2023·33m·2 clips
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    Ep. 69 - AI, Breaches, Splunk, and Bears, Oh My

    Hidden gem

    Greg Young and Bill Malick open Real Cybersecurity episode 69 with Microsoft's 30 terabytes of user data lost, MGM's hack, Google Authenticator's social-engineering weakness, and Cisco's largest acquisition to date.

    Oct 6, 2023·42m·4 clips
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    Ep. 68 - Posture Management in Cybersecurity - A Big Deal

    Sep 11, 2023·49m
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    Ep. 67 - Guest Jeff Wheatman, GRC, 3rd Party Risk, & More Risk

    Hidden gem

    Real CyberSecurity hosts Greg Young and Bill Malek interview Jeffrey Wietman of BlackKite about third-party risk, GRC, supply-chain resilience, and cyber-risk quantification.

    Sep 5, 2023·55m·4 clips
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    Ep.66 - New SEC Cybersecurity Reporting Rules, & Jonathan Frakes

    Aug 8, 2023·46m
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    Ep. 65 - National Cybersecurity Strategy, Startup FundingChallenges

    A poorly written patch can become the best denial-of-service attack no attacker ever wrote.

    Jul 20, 2023·41m·2 clips
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    Ep. 64 - Interview with Dr Gene Spafford

    Interview with Professor Eugene Spafford about his book on cybersecurity myths and misconceptions.

    Jul 7, 2023·53m
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    Ep. 63 - Secrets, Policy, and AI & Black Swans

    Jun 28, 2023·50m
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    Ep. 62 - Listener Questions about AI

    Jun 21, 2023·39m
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    Ep.61 - Report from RSA Conference, and Maritime Cybersecurity.

    May 2, 2023·38m
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    Ep. 60 - Cybersecurity of AI,& the Impact of a Bay Area Bank Collapse

    Apr 3, 2023·36m
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    Ep. 59 - Cyber Security Framework (CSF) & Ransomware Update

    Mar 13, 2023·42m
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    Ep. 58 Securing FinTech, and a brief mention of AI, and ChatGPT

    Feb 13, 2023·38m
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    Ep. 57 - The Crypto Queen, Airline Cybersecurity, and Downsizing vs Skills Gap

    Jan 27, 2023·38m
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    Ep. 56 - Infragard, ChatGPT, Public-Private Partnerships, Russia

    Dec 19, 2022·41m
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    Ep. 55 - Recession Cuts in Cybersec? Trim Here...

    Dec 8, 2022·49m
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    Ep. 54 - Cybersecurity Supply Chain, Secure Code Isn't Secure Forever

    Dec 5, 2022·47m
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    Ep. 53 - Information Theory, Control Systems Vulnerabilities

    Nov 28, 2022·35m
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    Ep. 52 - Zero Trust Status,Twitter Drama, and 5.5G?

    Nov 17, 2022·36m
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    Ep. 51 - Top 6 Cybersec Business & Tech Issues for 2023

    Oct 24, 2022·25m
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    Episode 50 - Lessons from the Uber Hack, and Machine Learning in Cybersecurity

    Sep 26, 2022·41m
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    Episode 49 - The Cybersecurity Market, and Channels, Backup, and SMB

    Sep 4, 2022·37m
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    Episode 48 - Reports from ReInvent, Black Hat, DEFCON & Crypto Foolishness

    Aug 26, 2022·41m
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    Episode 47 - Industrial Components Hacking, and What About Russia?

    Aug 9, 2022·43m
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    Episode 46 - Eavesdropping, and the Bad News of Privacy & Security Diverging

    Jul 27, 2022·42m
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    E45 - Cryptocurrency, and Quantum Crypto

    Jul 21, 2022·42m
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    Episode 44 - RSA Conference After Action Report

    Jun 23, 2022·18m
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    Episode 43 - Talking to the Board About CyberSec, and Halifax

    May 24, 2022·38m
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    Episode 42 - Ukraine, Stuxnet Details Revealed & Are Security Conferences Dead?

    May 3, 2022·41m
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    Episode 41 - Why CyberSec Pros Quit, Gartner's Top 7 Sec Trends, and APIs

    Apr 12, 2022·35m
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    Episode 40 - Hacked Traffic Signs, Mesh CyberSec, Ukraine War COMSEC

    Mar 31, 2022·43m
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    Episode 39 - Ransomware and Ukraine

    Mar 21, 2022·40m
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    Episode 38 - Web 3.0, CyberScams & Money-laundering: the High and Low Tech

    Feb 16, 2022·48m
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    Ep 37 - Privacy Week - How We Don't Have Much Privacy But We Can Get It Back

    Jan 28, 2022·33m
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    Episode 36 - Holiday Scams, Some Different Talk About Log4J

    Dec 22, 2021·44m
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    Episode 35: When Physical and Cyber Security Collides

    Nov 25, 2021·53m
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    Episode 34 - The Morris Worm, F12 Responsible Disclosure, and Tar

    Nov 10, 2021·46m
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    Week 4 of Cybersecurity Awareness Month - Social Media Security

    Oct 25, 2021·17m
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    Week 3 of Cybersecurity Awareness Month - Password Management

    Oct 18, 2021·14m
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    Week 2 of Cybersecurity Awareness Month - Device Security

    Oct 12, 2021·18m
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    Week 1 of Cybersecurity Awareness Month - Surfing Safely

    Oct 4, 2021·14m
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    Episode 33 - Security Startups and CyberSecurity Fame

    Sep 22, 2021·55m
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    Episode 32 - Orange Books, Spam, and How the Big IT Vendors Struggle With Security

    Hosts discuss the origin of the term 'spam' and its relevance to cybersecurity, blending humor with industry insight.

    Sep 15, 2021·58m
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    Episode 30 - DevSecOps, Zero Trust, and Conference Celebs

    Aug 5, 2021·53m
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    Episode 31 - Bread, Tinder, and About That CyberSec Whitehouse Meeting

    Aug 3, 2021·58m
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    Episode 29 - Ransomware and The Money of It, and What Business Will Be Like In 2022

    Jul 28, 2021·42m
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    Episode 28 - Keeping Secrets, Rise of Ransomware, Ethics in Cybersecurity

    Jun 14, 2021·1h 2m