A return visit on aviation reporting culture and its path into UAP research.
Diana Walsh Pasulka returns for a grounded conversation about UAP research, one that steps away from ideology and begins with the practical work of reporting.
UFO lore, occult history, and a song the guest chooses.
The gist
Radio Misterioso talks with guests about the unexplained, from an archive of the unexplained in Sweden to the occult roots of American history. The host arrives with a list of questions, admits they never get through it, and lets the conversation go wherever it wants.
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About Radio Misterioso
Radio Misterioso is an interview show about the unexplained, and it treats the subject as something with a history, a paper trail and a body of belief. UFOs and UAP sit alongside occult history, visitations and the study of religion. The host is open about the method. Questions get written while reading a guest's book, sometimes dozens of them. Then the guest hears that the list will not be finished, because it never is. Tangents are welcome, including ones that have nothing to do with the topic. The small talk before the interview often makes it into the episode: testing that the recording works, deciding whether video is worth turning on, the host telling a guest that nobody needs to fix their hair for audio. The conversation with Diana Walsh Pasulka picks up from one the two had in 2017. It covers the overview effect and a woman who helped move aviation culture away from blame and shame and now works with pilots who report UAP. In 'Archiving The Unexplained', Klaus talks about collecting for an archive in Sweden. That meant getting a thousand books from a university library and losing sleep over how to save a private library that its owner's will had ordered burned. Chris Aubeck's book gives the host a list that runs from ancient stories and crashing meteorites to contactees, channeling, skyships and ancient aliens. One illustrated story they discuss has a towering being cage corrupt people with lions and tigers in a zoo on Uranus, then send the children of the good back to Earth. The Thea Wirsching conversation sets Western esotericism, which focuses on the individual, against Eastern traditions centred on compassion for others. It then connects that spiritual interest to the Civil War and abolition, framed as a collective event. The Morgan Knudsen conversation centres on why visitations seem to arrive once people stop waiting for them. Religion is another thread: one episode is titled 'Stephen Finley – The Nation Of Islam as a UFO Religion', and Aubeck's list includes religious denominations and alien beliefs. A spoken passage heard in more than one episode argues that the field needs a turning point away from ideology, since the basic work has not been done. Then there is the music. Each guest picks the song that ends their episode. That leads to talk of Audio Machine and Zappa, and one episode closes on a song about little people in fire machines who are watching you. A listener gets a guest's line of thought followed wherever it goes, with a song at the end.
Made for: Suits a listener who is drawn to UFOs and the occult as history, archives and belief, and who is happy to follow a guest down a tangent and stay for the song at the end.
What sets it apart: The host openly drops the question list and lets the talk drift, the chatter from before the interview often stays in, and every guest chooses the closing song. The subjects lean toward the record around the unexplained: archives, old alien stories, religious movements and occult history.
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In-depth conversations on the paranormal alternating with weird music. Live on Sundays 8-10 PM PST @ killradio.org.
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A 240-year-old abduction story is waiting to complicate your UFO certainty.
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- to ask where abduction stories began before you weigh a modern account
- to follow occult interests through American literature and a conversation about abolition
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Best episodes of Radio Misterioso
Short reviews from the PlayNext desk, based on the episodes we processed.
A thoughtful search for American occult roots through abolition, literature, and counterculture.
The episode tracks Thea Wirsching as she looks for occult and countercultural roots in American history, with the Civil War, abolition, and the freedom of enslaved people at the center of that search.
A measured paranormal discussion about expectation, attention, and the experiences people hope to meet.
This single-episode review finds its strongest thread in the uneasy relationship between paranormal experience and the wish for it to arrive. The discussion treats expectation as a form of clinging: looking too hard for a visitation can make the silence feel louder, while…
The Uranian cage story shows how UFO lore can inherit old ideas without settling what happens today.
A conversation with author Chris Aubeck treats alien belief as a history of borrowed memory. Extraterrestrial worlds, contactees, religious denominations, channeling, skyships, ancient aliens, and an older abduction tale set against Uranus all become part of the same pattern:…
A determined archivist rescues a library marked for burning while AFU's collections reach the screen.
Preservation in this episode is less an abstract mission than a matter of showing up before things vanish. Klaus describes the patient work of gathering books, paperwork, computers, and other materials, including 1,000 books he says came from a university library.
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Diana Walsh Pasulka – Encounters
Hidden gemDiana Walsh-Pasulka says Encounters, out in November 2023, shifts from American Cosmic’s broader UFO frame to actual people, actual experiences, and the “downloads” they report.
May 27, 2023·1h 47m·5 clips - 2
Thea Wirsching – The Occult and American History
Hidden gemThea Wirsching connects American occultism, literary history, and tarot through her 78-card American Renaissance Tarot, which includes 36 writers and figures such as Pascal Beverly Randolph, Joseph Smith, Herman Melville, and Edgar Allan Poe.
Mar 22, 2023·1h 12m·5 clips - 3
Morgan Knudsen – Making the Paranormal Normal
Hidden gemRadio Misterioso’s Morgan Knudsen argues that parapsychology is “about hope and empowerment,” and he connects that idea to his great-great-grandfather Albert Durant Watson, a Canadian physician who published two books on medium Lewis Benjamin.
Feb 8, 2023·1h 1m·3 clips - 4
Archiving The Unexplained
Hidden gemKlaus von, chairman for the Archives of the Unexplained in Norrköping, Sweden, says AFU now holds about 3.5 kilometers of shelf space, more than 55,000 books, 650,000 newspaper clippings, and 30,000 photographs.
Dec 19, 2022·1h 11m·4 clips - 5
Chris Aubeck – A History of Alien Artifacts
Hidden gemChris Aubeck discusses Alien Artifacts from Antiquity to the Year 1880, a book that traces stories about extraterrestrials, meteorites, and ancient moon visitors back through Greek atomism and Japanese folklore.
Dec 19, 2022·1h 37m·5 clips - 6
Jeff Kripal – The Superhumanities
On Radio Misterioso, Jeff Kripal defines his book The Superhumanities as literature, history, philosophy, religion, and art viewed through altered states of consciousness.
Oct 25, 2022·1h 15m·2 clips - 7
Michael Masters – The Extratempestrial Model
On Radio Misterioso, biological anthropologist Michael Masters presents his extratempestrial model: some UFO visitors may be human descendants traveling from the future.
Oct 20, 2022·1h 51m·2 clips - 8
Joshua Cutchin - The Ecology Of Souls
Jul 18, 2022·2h 1m - 9
Paul Smith - Remote Viewing: Insight and History
On Radio Misterioso, Dr.
May 27, 2022·1h 35m·2 clips - 10
The Tarot Part of the Ufology Tarot
Nov 23, 2021·41m - 11
Introducing the UFOLOGY TAROT!
Nov 5, 2021·41m - 12
Popup Show – Miguel Romero on “The Einstein of Consciousness”
Aug 23, 2021·43m - 13
Popup Show – Susan Demeter – The Cosmic Witch
May 6, 2021·34m - 14
Joshua Cutchin and Timothy Renner – Paranormal Bigfoot II
Jan 20, 2021·2h 37m - 15
Joshua Cutchin and Timothy Renner – Paranormal Bigfoot
May 21, 2020·2h 6m - 16
Stephen Finley – The Nation Of Islam as a UFO Religion
Host discusses the need to shift the study of extraterrestrial phenomena away from ideology and towards basic work, during an interview with a guest.
May 17, 2020·1h 28m - 17
Kevin Day – Nimitz UFOs and Beyond
Hosts discuss the weather and prepare for an interview with a guest about paranormal topics, referencing Whitley Strieber and Coast to Coast AM.
May 6, 2020·1h 20m - 18
Shannon Taggart – Séance
Apr 11, 2020·1h 49m - 19
Michael Masters – Neoteny and Time Travel and UFOs
Apr 7, 2020·1h 54m - 20
Miguel Romero – A Visit To Mexico City
Apr 5, 2020·1h 35m - 21
Whitley Strieber – A New World
Dec 11, 2019·1h 31m - 22
Susan Demeter St. Clair and Dr. Massimo Teodorani – Science Weds Spirit
Dec 9, 2019·2h 1m - 23
Deep Prasad – Contact and UAP Expeditions
Dec 4, 2019·1h 35m - 24
Christopher White – A History of Alternate Dimensions
Host interviews an author about their book on paranormal topics, discussing writing style and personal vs.
Nov 22, 2019·1h 28m - 25
2019 Halloween Music Special with Courtney O’Hearn
Oct 31, 2019·2h 15m - 26
Alan Stivelman – Witness Of Another World
Oct 21, 2019·2h 6m - 27
Whitley Strieber – A Life of Contact
A discussion questioning the extraterrestrial hypothesis for UFOs and calling for a new approach to studying the phenomenon.
Oct 10, 2019·1h 9m - 28
Jeff Kripal – Meaning vs. Mechanism
Sep 13, 2019·2h 17m - 29
Stanton Friedman – Recollections
A live radio show featuring in-depth conversations on paranormal topics and weird music, with a dramatic opening about the unknown.
May 15, 2019·43m - 30
Dr. Kevin Knuth – Relativistic Space Travel
A discussion about a well-documented UFO encounter in Pascagoula, featuring strange entities and the reactions of the witnesses.
Apr 22, 2019·1h 20m - 31
Rich Hoffman – The Scientific Coalition for Ufology
Mar 31, 2019·1h 58m - 32
Paul and Jim Kimball – Ghost Investigation for the Rest of Us
Feb 16, 2019·1h 31m - 33
Eric Wargo – Time Loops and Retrocausality
Jan 16, 2019·2h 4m - 34
2018 Paranormal Year In Review with Tim Binnall
Jan 9, 2019·2h 18m - 35
2018 Weird Christmas Music Special with Courtney O’Hearn
Dec 24, 2018·2h 22m - 36
David Perkins Pt. 2 – Cattle Mutilations as Gaia
Nov 29, 2018·1h 36m - 37
Massimo Teodorani – The Hyperspace of Consciousness
Nov 13, 2018·1h 47m - 38
Chris Lambright II – More On Paul Bennewitz, Secret Laser Research, and The Socorro Incident
Nov 5, 2018·1h 59m - 39
2018 Halloween Music Special with Courtney O’Hearn
Oct 31, 2018·2h 25m - 40
Mike Clelland: The Owl Man
Oct 9, 2018·2h 9m - 41
Charles Topham: Psychic Questing and Apported Objects
Sep 17, 2018·2h 12m - 42
Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp: Hunt For the Skinwalker
Sep 10, 2018·1h 54m - 43
Weird (and Not as Weird) Music with Joshua Cutchin
Host Josh and guest Gregory record a casual weird music show, discussing theremin player Clara Rockmore and planning to play Grace Chang, while drinking and eating goldfish.
Aug 13, 2018·1h 1m - 44
Chris Lambright – X Descending, Paul Bennewitz, and the Air Force
Jul 30, 2018·2h 15m - 45
Joshua Cutchin – Thieves In The Night
Jul 15, 2018·2h 6m - 46
David Perkins – The Long View of Mutilations
Jun 27, 2018·2h 17m - 47
Chris O’Brien – Moving On
A live radio show featuring in-depth conversations on the paranormal and weird music, with a dramatic narrative about a fateful event.
Jun 11, 2018·53m - 48
Aaron Gulyas – Living the Saucer Life
Jun 6, 2018·1h 18m - 49
Shannon Taggart – Spiritualist Photography
May 23, 2018·1h 57m - 50
George Hansen – The Trickster, the Paranormal, and Liminality
May 9, 2018·1h 56m