Perpetual Motion® Podcast is hosted by Colin Fowler and Michael Glenn, patent attorneys at Perkins Coie who, in their own words, work to secure protection for clients' inventions. On the show they talk with people who have ideas, and a disclaimer makes clear that none of it is legal advice. What results is an interview show that keeps asking how things work. In one conversation the hosts say their subject is creativity and creative people. They start by asking two guests when they first knew they were creative and whether they took things apart as kids. Those guests, Ben Burris and Kevin Turpin of Weebix, go on to describe a safety workflow in which a photo becomes an automatic ticket and AI sorts the tickets by risk. They are just as direct about the limits. Everything depends on network connectivity, and even once AI models are small enough to run on a device, battery power will still be a problem. Janice Ta, whom Michael introduces as his partner from Austin, sits in on that episode. The Genies episode, with CEO and founder Akash Nagam, starts from a big idea: games, movies and shows personalized around data gathered by a person's own AI companion. The clearest example is a small one. A Ferrari brought over from a racing game should not be able to make a skiing game boring, so the team built what it calls smart assets, which carry their own attributes and logic. The episode ends on talk of a gold rush and the value of pivoting quickly. The event episodes cover a lot of ground. At TechCrunch Disrupt 2025, one guest presents concrete samples that replace cement with recycled steel slag, incinerated household trash and brine from desalination plants, and a separate conversation turns to a US law that keeps government agencies from buying drones not made in the US. At Austin Tech Week 2025, with Bryce also asking questions, the hosts hear how broadband light devices differ from narrow-band lasers. That episode closes on a product whose parts patients can change out at home. The guest list is not limited to hardware. Amber Dawn Bear Robe, a Native fashion curator from Siksika Nation, talks about her name, Many Butterfly Woman, and about seeing Indigena, a contemporary Native art exhibition curated by Native curators, as a college student. She credits it with changing the direction of her life. The holiday special swaps interviews for fun, with the two hosts trading real patent applications that have silly premises. They start with a claimed perpetual motion machine, then judge a landing idea by weighing cheap tires against an expensive worn-down fuselage. It ends in a comic bit about focusing vortexes. For a mix of subjects in one sitting, start with 'PMP @ TechCrunch Disrupt 2025'. To see how far the show strays from engineering, try 'A Fashion Statement'.