State health cost reform comes down to data, oversight, and coordination.
J.B. Wogan talks with Jim Lloyd, Rachel Block, and Julie Sonier about the hard work of bringing down U.S. healthcare costs without losing sight of quality or access.
Evidence, policy, and implementation in plain view.
On the Evidence treats public policy as a practical problem of evidence, implementation, and institutional capacity. Episodes move from health costs and climate accounting to African agriculture, fintech access, census work, and the federal evidence ecosystem.
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On the Evidence is a measured interview series for people who want public policy explained from the inside. It is not built around speed. The show gives researchers, public officials, institutional leaders, and practitioners time to trace the path from a problem to the evidence that might make action possible. Recent episodes show that range clearly. One conversation on rising health care costs follows state-level work on affordability, market oversight, quality measurement, and multi-payer value-based care. The central question is practical: which costs improve access or quality, and which ones simply strain the system. Another episode turns to African smallholder farmers, with Dr. Agnes Kalibata describing the ecosystem required for farmers to increase yields, manage crop threats, withstand flooding and drought, and treat farming as a business. The show also examines fintech through Jesse Moore and mcopa, where smartphones, credit analytics, lending relationships, and everyday earners become part of a larger conversation about access and sustainable business models. Its policy lens is broad, but its method is consistent. A topic begins with lived or professional context, then moves toward data, incentives, governance, and implementation. Episodes on the Evidence Act and GAO reporting focus on the federal government’s capacity to collect, manage, and use evidence, while also questioning how much more guidance helps if agencies need technical assistance and practical follow-through. A conversation with Cecilia Rouse links economic research, White House policy work, communication, and institutional leadership. An interview with Robert Santos brings census work, identity, technology, and the public policy research pipeline into the same frame. The climate episode with Jenny Sung is typical of the show’s best habits: it explains soil carbon, livestock methane, regenerative agriculture, and emissions calculators without turning complexity into spectacle. On the Evidence is serious, but not remote. It assumes that listeners can handle nuance when the discussion stays grounded. Its recurring concern is not only what evidence says, but how people, agencies, markets, and communities can use it responsibly.
Made for: It suits policy professionals, researchers, public-sector staff, and curious generalists who want careful explanations of systems change. The ideal listener is comfortable with detail and interested in how evidence moves from analysis into action.
What sets it apart: The show stands out by pairing interviews with implementation questions that stay close to real institutions. It treats data as a working tool for decisions, not as a decorative claim of authority.
A podcast from Mathematica that examines what we know about today’s most urgent challenges and how we can make progress in addressing them. Reimagining the way the world gathers and uses data, Mathematica uncovers the evidence that offers our partners the confidence and clarity they need to find out what can be done, how to make it happen, and where to go next.
Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026
On the Evidence connects policy goals to the evidence and implementation choices that determine what government can actually do.
On the Evidence follows evidence from policy ambition into administrative practice. J.B. Wogan leads interviews and panel conversations that ask how institutions collect information, judge whether programs work, and turn findings into decisions.
OMB guidance meets cow burps; your curiosity needs room for both the memo and the methane.
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State health cost reform comes down to data, oversight, and coordination.
J.B. Wogan talks with Jim Lloyd, Rachel Block, and Julie Sonier about the hard work of bringing down U.S. healthcare costs without losing sight of quality or access.
AGRA's work on yields, incomes, and resilience makes Africa's food system feel concrete, from seed access to flooding and drought planning.
The episode uses Dr. Agnes Kalibata's conversation with J.B. Wogan to lay out the systems behind Africa's food supply: smallholder farmers, reliable seed and fertilizer access, and AGRA's effort to raise yields and incomes for 30 million smallholder farming households across 11…
A fintech story about smartphones, credit analytics, and the capital behind financial access.
This episode follows mcopa, the Nairobi-based fintech that says it has reached more than five million everyday earners across Kenya, Uganda, Nigeria, Ghana, and South Africa with smartphones and added financial services.
A measured look at whether the 2019 Evidence Act is actually shaping agency practice.
The episode treats the GAO review of federal evidence work as a practical test of whether the 2019 bipartisan Evidence Act has truly taken hold inside agencies.
A clear-eyed look at regenerative agriculture, soil carbon, and why the numbers matter.
On Evidence, the episode treats regenerative agriculture as a question of measurement rather than mythology, with J.B. Wogan and Jenny Sung linking soil carbon, crop productivity, and a free greenhouse gas emissions calculator to the same climate problem.

Canadian affordability, explained through the policy machinery.





Illinois policy, straight from Springfield.
Rising healthcare costs are the subject.
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Jesse Moore lays out mcopa's model.
The episode returns to the Evidence Act.
Interview with Cecilia Rouse about her career in economics and policy research, and the role of evidence in shaping public policy.
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Interview with U.S.