My Chatbot Life

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Chatbot shop talk, war stories included

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My Chatbot Life pairs MKJ with chatbot builders, agency owners and marketers for quick, loose conversations about making bots work for real businesses. Topics range from Facebook shutting down a bot overnight to why a support bot should spare staff from repeat questions instead of replacing them.

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About My Chatbot Life

My Chatbot Life is a series of conversations about chatbot marketing as it is actually practised, with the client objections, platform trouble and bad days left in. Mary Kathryn Johnson, who goes by MKJ and is billed as Chatbot Mom, does the interviewing. She greets listeners as 'bot buddies' and talks to them as colleagues, not newcomers. The pace is quick and the talk is loose. Sentences restart, questions run long, and a setup often turns into a short lesson before the guest says a word. That habit is a big part of the show's character. In the Feebi conversation, she tells technically minded builders to stop waiting until they can answer every backend question, because restaurant owners care only whether the thing solves their problem. The guests supply the war stories. One guest, whose work moved from SMS to social to website bots, recalls a bot with 2.2 million subscribers that Facebook shut down overnight. After it went dark, messages kept arriving from people who had leaned on its daily prayers through hospital visits and a husband leaving. The conversation then turns to the practical question of how to live with that, get back to business and find another solution. Christoph Brunner of Botium comes back for a second conversation in an episode titled 'How to Be Sure Your Bot Never Hiccups', and he approaches support from a different direction. His advice is to start with the top ten things customers ask, answer those well, and pass anything too specific to people who are no longer worn out from repeating themselves. He is firm that cutting support staff is the wrong goal. Jason Swenk, introduced as a marketing futurist, brings the jokes, including the admission that he got through his school programming work by outsourcing it. Steve Chu, who runs an e-commerce store, gets public credit from MKJ, who says his podcast led Michael Stelzner to invite her to Social Media Marketing World. Another conversation takes up the fear of calling customers and uses a role-played discovery call as its example. Taken together, the episode titles show the show's range: restaurant bots, lessons from live chat, bot reliability, email marketing, launches and AI copywriting. Terms like intents and human handover come up without a glossary. There are tangents, from a late walk back to a conference hotel to postponed travel plans, but the talk usually comes back to something a builder can put to work. Each conversation is also offered as a video chat on the show's website.

Made for: Suits a listener who already builds, sells or manages chatbots and wants practical talk about clients, platforms and support automation, not an introduction to the basics.

What sets it apart: Instead of polishing its lessons, it keeps the operational mess in view: a Facebook shutdown, support staff answering the same question again and again, a builder hesitant to talk to clients. MKJ's long, lesson-carrying questions make each episode feel like a working session among peers.

In their own words

Mary Kathryn Johnson welcomes you to the My Chatbot Life podcast, where chatbot marketers share their high conversion strategies in this new conversational marketplace. Each week MKJ introduces you to bot builders, and conversational marketers who are just like you…a little techy, a little markety, and a whole lot a geeky. Buckle up as ChatBotMom enjoys another journey into My Chatbot Life.

As heard by us

Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Mary Kathryn Johnson makes chatbot technology legible through practical conversations about testing, customer service, marketing, platform risk, and implementation.

My Chatbot Life treats chatbot technology as a working business tool, with Mary Kathryn Johnson moving between guest interviews and solo instruction.

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Why you'd press play

A bot goes silent; MKJ makes you think about who's still typing on the other end.

Press play if you want

  • to stop perfecting the backend and ask a customer what actually hurts
  • to know when an automated answer should hand off to a human
Read the full recommendation in PlayNext →
Building and selling chatbots to clientsFacebook platform shutdowns and riskCustomer support automation and human handoverBot testing and reliabilityAI tools for writing copyChatbots in email marketingRestaurant botsSales mindset and agency growth

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Short reviews from the PlayNext desk, based on the episodes we processed.

How to Use AI Bots with Feebi to Help Restaurants Create SuccessDec 28, 2021

A restaurant chatbot conversation that keeps pulling the focus back to the problem, not the plumbing.

Charlton Santana steers the conversation toward the basics chatbot builders need to hear: the problem being solved, the result being delivered, and the urgency of getting in front of customers quickly.

What You Can Learn From Live Chat To Increase The Success Of Your Automated BotAug 31, 2021

A bot can vanish overnight, and the episode stays with that reality.

This episode centers on platform risk, using Eric Cades' shift from SMS to social to a website to show how quickly a chatbot business can change shape.

How to Be Sure Your Bot Never HiccupsAug 24, 2021

Botium's Christoph Brunner makes a practical case for bot triage, repetitive support, and human handoff.

My Chatbot Life offers a practical look at where bots belong, with Christoph Brunner of Botium keeping the focus on the top 10 intents, routine customer questions, and the point where a human should step in.

Changes and Chatbots: Launch Success and Writing Copy with AI and JarvisJun 22, 2021

Community, writing discipline, and a useful reset on the fears people build around sales calls.

The episode places community, writing discipline, and sales nerves at the center of the conversation. MKJ brings on Austin Distel, the CMO of Jarvis, also called Conversion.ai here, and the pair quickly treat that community as a genuine brand advantage before shifting into…

How To Profit From Chatbots And Conversational Marketing In 2020, And Not Get Left BehindOct 21, 2019

A blunt case for conversational design after the chatbot hype cooled.

MKJ uses a solo episode to argue that chatbot marketing has moved beyond the easy-money hype and into a harder, more disciplined phase. Conversations 2019 and a Social Media Examiner report anchor that case, while the focus stays on 2020 and on marketers, agency owners,…

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Episodes

  1. 1

    How to Use AI Bots with Feebi to Help Restaurants Create Success

    Hidden gem

    MKJ welcomes Charlton Santana, founder of Phoebe, and the two open with accents and easy banter.

    Dec 28, 2021·41m·2 clips
  2. 2

    What You Can Learn From Live Chat To Increase The Success Of Your Automated Bot

    Hidden gem

    MKJ welcomes Eric Cades, founder of Techbot.

    Aug 31, 2021·35m·2 clips
  3. 3

    How to Be Sure Your Bot Never Hiccups

    Hidden gem

    Christoph Brunner returns to My Chatbot Life.

    Aug 24, 2021·42m·2 clips
  4. 4

    How to Embrace Chatbots, and Beat Imposter Syndrome From an Australian Army Reserve Leadership Trainer.

    Aug 17, 2021·42m
  5. 5

    Changes and Chatbots: from MKJ's go-to Developer

    Aug 10, 2021·33m
  6. 6

    Changes and Chatbots: How To Do What Lights You Up, Regardless Of The Changes In Tech

    Aug 3, 2021·49m
  7. 7

    Changes and Chatbots: Stephen Bradeen and eCommerce Chat Success

    Jul 27, 2021·29m
  8. 8

    Changes and Chatbots A World Traveler's Opinion

    Jul 13, 2021·33m
  9. 9

    Changes and Chatbots: A Former Police Officer's Advice

    Jul 7, 2021·39m
  10. 10

    Changes and Chatbots: A Botium test of Conversations

    Jun 29, 2021·35m
  11. 11

    Changes and Chatbots: Launch Success and Writing Copy with AI and Jarvis

    Hidden gem

    MKJ welcomes Austin Distel, the CMO of Jarvis, also called Conversion.ai, and brings her usual energy to the conversation.

    Jun 22, 2021·46m·3 clips
  12. 12

    Changes and Chatbots Series: Mindset Ambassador, Sue Prentice Gets It!

    Jun 8, 2021·39m
  13. 13

    Changes and Chatbots Series: Let's Break ALL The Rules!

    Jun 4, 2021·49m
  14. 14

    Changes and Chatbots Series: Mike Yan, ManyChat adds IG

    May 25, 2021·42m
  15. 15

    Changes and Chatbots Series: Pat Friedl Connects GoHighLevel and ManyChat

    May 18, 2021·33m
  16. 16

    Changes and Chatbots Series: Rutger Thole Says Stop and Step Back.

    May 11, 2021·33m
  17. 17

    Changes and Chatbots Series: John Preston Says Relax

    Apr 27, 2021·27m
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    Changes and Chatbots Series: Your Reaction to Change

    Apr 20, 2021·20m
  19. 19

    Michel Tremblay Returns With The Secret To A 6 Figure Year For Chatbot Agencies

    Apr 13, 2021·32m
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    How Chad Collins, CEO of a Multi-Million Dollar Event Business about Legos and Super Heros Pivoted and Monetized His Conversations in These Changing Times.

    Feb 13, 2021·35m
  21. 21

    How to Flourish with Facebook Ads, Bots and Life

    Sep 16, 2020·25m
  22. 22

    How Discomfort Can Help You Create Massive Success with Hannes Jacobsson

    Aug 11, 2020·35m
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    Tom Schwab: Interview Valet

    Jun 23, 2020·32m
  24. 24

    How to Outsource Vital Business Functions to Quality Staff Members with Nathan Hirsch of OutsourceSchool.com

    Jun 16, 2020·32m
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    Billy Bateman: Chat Funnels

    May 26, 2020·35m
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    The Future of Conversational AI with Dan Gamito

    May 18, 2020·44m
  27. 27

    Why Coaches and Course Creators Don't Need to Use Webinars to Sell Their Products… 3 Secrets to Future Proof Your Business.

    Apr 21, 2020·35m
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    3 Tools to Focus Your Fear Into Action and Results

    Mar 30, 2020·16m
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    The One Partner You Need to Fly Higher, and be More Strategic in your Chatbot Agency

    Mar 16, 2020·31m
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    Think Outside The Bot With Sasha Liddiard

    Mar 9, 2020·30m
  31. 31

    Why I am buying Bot Academy from Andrew Warner

    Mar 2, 2020·28m
  32. 32

    Living Your Best Happy Life With Molly Pittman

    Feb 24, 2020·30m
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    3 Ways to Prove You Have Knowledge Others Need and Will Pay For

    Feb 17, 2020·32m
  34. 34

    Mind movement - MKJ part 4

    Feb 11, 2020·22m
  35. 35

    Do You Know Where Your Business Is Heading?

    Feb 3, 2020·28m
  36. 36

    True Chatbot Success with Alexys Bartok

    Jan 27, 2020·40m
  37. 37

    The Strategy Behind The Success

    Jan 20, 2020·38m
  38. 38

    Do More Than Just Build Bots With Rupert Samuel

    Jan 13, 2020·36m
  39. 39

    Dive Into the Digital World with David Carreno and Melanie Blanco

    Jan 6, 2020·50m
  40. 40

    Growing In Your Life and Business with Kerry Fitzgibbon

    Dec 30, 2019·33m
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    Get Inspired and Take Action with John Bellamy

    Dec 23, 2019·36m
  42. 42

    Jordache Johnson is a Digital Growth Strategist / Chat Marketing Builder / Below Average Golfer

    Dec 16, 2019·33m
  43. 43

    The One Thing That Will Stop You From Reaching Your Goals, and How to Rocket Past It

    Dec 9, 2019·35m
  44. 44

    Help People Have Conversations And Connect- Stephanie Dove Blake

    Dec 2, 2019·32m
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    How To Follow One Course Until Success With Bots

    Nov 26, 2019·27m
  46. 46

    Create Freedom and Clarity Inside Your Business And Life with Jason Swenk

    Host MKJ interviews marketing futurist Jason Swank about his journey from outsourcing programming to building an agency, focusing on personal and professional growth.

    Nov 19, 2019·27m
  47. 47

    How to Add a Chatbot to Your Email Marketing and Substantially Grow Your Business

    Host MKJ interviews Steve Chu about his e-commerce store and the role of chatbots in marketing, sharing personal anecdotes and insights.

    Nov 4, 2019·41m
  48. 48

    How a Spur of the Moment Decision Led to True Success with Rutger Thole

    Host MKJ interviews Rutger Thole about his journey into chatbot marketing and his previous career as a scuba diver and entrepreneur.

    Oct 28, 2019·34m
  49. 49

    How To Profit From Chatbots And Conversational Marketing In 2020, And Not Get Left Behind

    Hidden gem

    MKJ goes solo and opens by framing chatbot marketing around a new decade and the changes she expects in 2020.

    Oct 21, 2019·35m·2 clips
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    How a Little Webinar Chatbot Kicked Fear in the Teeth and Boosted the #becauseicanclan

    Oct 14, 2019·36m