Making Data Simple

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Enterprise AI, with the hype pressure-tested.

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Making Data Simple is a guest-led technology interview show focused on AI, data, security, and enterprise adoption. Its best moments come when big claims meet blunt questions about use cases, cost, risk, governance, and what actually works in production.

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About Making Data Simple

Making Data Simple treats enterprise AI as something that has to survive contact with real organizations. The show is built around conversations with people close to the work: AI researchers, security leaders, IBM executives, product builders, privacy officers, and founders. It does not stay at the slogan level for long. A discussion of agents quickly becomes a question about inferencing cost, policy, observability, and whether a company should start smaller before betting a workflow on the technology. A conversation about modern AI turns into a look at reasoning, model limits, and why impressive peaks do not erase the strange valleys in system behavior. The show has a practical center. It wants the value case, not just the demo. Recent episodes move through AGI predictions, small and efficient models, enterprise MCP, AI-native IP infrastructure, sovereign AI, security, governance, ethics, and the messy data behind training systems. The format is conversational and sometimes loose. That looseness helps. Guests can explain difficult ideas at length, and then the conversation often snaps back to a blunt clarifying question. The show is especially strong when technical ambition meets operational doubt. It asks how models are trained, how data rights are tracked, how agents should be controlled, and how governance can keep up when nation states and companies are racing. There is also an inclusive streak in the framing. Listeners are not expected to know every acronym before the episode starts. When the topic gets dense, the show usually pulls it back toward a concrete example or a business consequence. It is not anti-AI. It is not breathless either. Making Data Simple is for people who want to understand how AI, data, trust, infrastructure, and regulation are being argued over by the people trying to make them usable.

Made for: For technology leaders, data teams, security-minded operators, and AI-curious business listeners who want plainspoken context before adopting new tools. It also suits non-specialists willing to follow expert guests into technical terrain.

What sets it apart: The show mixes casual interview energy with enterprise-level skepticism. Instead of treating AI progress as inevitable magic, it keeps asking about deployment, cost, governance, provenance, trust, and value.

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Hosted by Al Martin, IBM VP of Data and A.I. Development, Making Data Simple provides the latest thinking on big data, A.I., and the implications for the enterprise from a range of experts.

As heard by us

Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Al Martin turns enterprise AI debates into pointed conversations about reliability, governance, data rights, infrastructure, and practical adoption.

Making Data Simple follows Al Martin into the decisions underneath enterprise AI. His guest interviews move from computational accounts of human thought to sovereign AI, training-data provenance, governance, and the economics of inference, with questions that keep returning…

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Al Martin's AI hallway comes with a question for you: do you need a model that big?

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  • an IP infrastructure pitch followed by a request to explain it in simple terms
  • a practical case for smaller models when AI agents multiply the cost
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Still Essential: Ruchir Puri on AGI, Jensen Huang's Bold Prediction, and Why Reasoning Is the Missing Piece {Replay}Apr 15, 2026

A plainspoken case for efficient, purpose-built models when agentic AI starts driving costs up.

Making Data Simple keeps its focus on a practical pressure point in the current AI rush: once agents pile up, inference gets harder to manage and the bill starts to matter.

Learn AI Ethics, Risks, and Regulation! Christina Montgomery, IBM's Chief Privacy and Trust Officer. Yes, Law can be fun AND very interesting.

A grounded look at how AI ethics, privacy, and regulation shape real adoption choices.

The episode gives Christina Montgomery a clear, practical frame: AI ethics, privacy, regulation, and the business choices that sit underneath them.

Taming the Messy Data Reality: Turning AI Training Chaos into an $80T IP Asset Class with Andrea Muttoni, President and CPO of Story

A clear, Story-centered look at attribution, IP, and the data stack behind model training.

Making Data Simple centers on AI's data problem and the tension around copyrighted material, then follows Andrea Mutoni, Story's president and CPO, through a careful explanation of how the company separates raw data, training data, model training, and inference.

The Hidden Laws Behind Every Decision You Make — with Princeton's Tom Griffiths and his new book, The Laws of Thought

A thoughtful tour of how math, minds, and AI keep getting tangled together.

Tom Griffiths' conversation on The Laws of Thought treats modern AI as the latest chapter in a longer effort to turn thought into something mathematical.

From Sovereign AI to Social Impact: The Big Shifts You Need to Watch with IBM VP and CTO of IBM Canada, Manav Gupta

AI governance, compute scale, and the pressure of keeping up all land in one sharp conversation.

Manav Gupta and Al Martin use this episode to revisit sovereign AI, governance, and the speed of AI's rise. The host's note that listeners wanted more of Manav after his last appearance gives the conversation extra lift.

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    The Partner X Factor: What IBM's SVP Kareem Yusuf Knows About Ecosystems That Most Leaders Miss

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    Still Essential: Ruchir Puri, IBM Chief Scientist, on the Death of Prompt Engineering and the Rise of Agentic AI {Replay}

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    The Data You Never Collected: Adam Kamor Co-Founder & Head of Engineering, Tonic.ai, on Synthetic Data's AI Revolution

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    From Hollywood to High-Tech: Marco Rota’s, VP Strategic Technology Alliances at Lumen Technologies, Blueprint for Cultural Transformation {Replay}

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    This Episode is Deep into the Tech! From Graph DB Fundamentals to Grid Security: Engineering the Next-Gen Infrastructure

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    Say What!? Bad ideas are the key to to better innovation? Dive in for this contrarian take and more on AI for organizational intelligence with Phanish Puranam, Professor of Strategy and Organizational Design {Replay}

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    AI Power Plays: How IBM’s Clarity Levels Up Every Customer Conversation with Paul Zikopoulos, Matt Bateson, and Kyle Sava

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    Fresh off a high-profile appearance on CNBC! Jure Leskovec, Chief Scientist at Kumo and a Stanford Professor who's fundamentally reshaped how we understand networks {Replay}

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    From Disengaged to High-Performing: Dave Garrison’s Data-Driven Playbook for Team Buy-In

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    How to Choose, Use, and Trust AI Models with Manav Gupta, Vice President and CTO, IBM Canada {Replay}

    ·49m
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    Bright Ideas, Bold Bets: Entrepreneurship, Agentic AI, and Career Gold with Lighthouse CEO Ben Lowe. {Replay}

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    Replay: Agentic AI and the End of Deterministic Decision Trees with Megan Gallagher from Maven AGI

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    How Do You Build AI That Actually Works 99.999999% of the Time? With Tina Tarquinio Chief Product Officer of IBM Z and LinuxONE

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    Data Unstuck: Jure Leskovec on Unleashing the Power of Networks

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    🎧 Are you successful… but not satisfied? Redefining Success — Kris Kluver on Building a Business and a Life You Love {Replay}

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    The AI Storyteller Geoff Thatcher, Founder and CCO Creative Principals

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    Replay: Writing That Moves the World — Vinca LaFleur of West Wing Writers on Crafting Ideas That Stick

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    Unlocking the Power of AI & Data: Expert Insights from Douwe Kiela, CEO of Contextual.ai

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    Databases That Think: Building AI-Ready Systems with MongoDB’s Richmond Alake {Replay}

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    Anaconda Unleashed: Python Powers the AI Jungle with Peter Wang, Chief AI and Innovation Officer, co-founder of Anaconda {Replay}

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    ⚡ Riding the Data Wave: Surviving (and Thriving) in the AI Flood with Time-Series, AI, and the Future with Ajay Kulkarni, CEO and co-founder of TigerData

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    Making Data Simple: Live Data, Smarter AI with Snow Leopard founder Deepti Srivastava

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    The BOLD Advantage: Show Up (hint, this will make sense after you listen) and hear Fred Joyal’s Guide to Confidence, Networking & Growth {Replay}

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    🎙️ Talking Data with Dima Spivak, Director of Product Management, StreamSets {Replay}

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    Stop, Start, Succeed: Jacob Hicks on Time Management & Coaching with Guest Host Katherine Mayne

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    In case you missed it.... Master the 3 Circles – Focus, Influence & True Leadership with Executive and Leadership Coach, Lynne Snead

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    Powering the Future: Leadership, AI, and the Next Era of IBM Power with Tom McPherson, GM of IBM Z and LinuxONE and former GM of IBM Power

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    🎙 Symbolic AI, QLattice, and Mind-Bending Ideas with Casper Wilstrup CEO of Abzu {Replay}

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    Streaming the Future: Dr. Sean Falconer, AI Entrepreneur in Residence at Confluent on AI, LLMs, and the Contrarian View

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    {Replay} AI Risks, Ethics & Law — with Christina Montgomery Chief Privacy Officer, General Motors and former IBMer

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    Beyond the Buzz: Mastering Prompts & Agents with Jonathan Mast

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    From Burnout to Breakthrough: Dave Garrison on the Science of Motivation (Part 2)

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    🎙️ The Hidden Cost of Disengagement: Dave Garrison on Leadership That Sparks Innovation

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    From 9× Safer Cars to Hallucination-Free LLMs: Inside Sama with Duncan Curtis SVP for GenAI & AI Product + Technology

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    CEO David Hirschfeld of Tekyz on the Startup Lie That’s Killing Your Company. Hint: It’s not about the tech — it’s about the problem you're solving.

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    🎯 Strategic Sales, AI Smarts & Pixar Roots: Ralph Gootee CTO of TigerEye Tells All

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    In case you missed it....The Future of Risk, Powered by AI with Kathy Stares, EVP of North America at Provenir

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    Part 2: Automation Remix: Observability, IBM Concert & the Next Wave of IT Ops

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    Automation Unleashed: IBM’s Sarah McAndrew, VP & Vikram Murali, VP Chart the Future

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    Unlock Mega Thinking: The CEO Mindset for Smarter, Faster Leadership Decisions with Dave Martin—CEO, tech entrepreneur, investor coach to elite CEOs

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    Inside IBM’s TechXchange: The AI-Fueled Conference Techies Can’t Afford to Miss, with Amy Tennison, VP of IBM TechXchange and Client Advocacy and Graeme Noseworthy, TechXchange Content & Experiences

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    🧠 Dr. Ruchir Puri on the Next Frontier: Open Models, Smarter AI, and Human-Level Reasoning (Part 2)

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    A Masterclass on AI with Ruchir Puri, Chief Scientist IBM: From Prompt Engineering to Agentic AI (Part 1)

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    🧐 Beyond the Buzz: AI, Ethics & the Future of Organizational Intelligence with Phanish Puranam (Part 2)

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    🧠 Designing Smarter Organizations: AI, Algorithms & the Future of Work with Phanish Puranam, Professor of Strategy and Organizational Design at INSEAD

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    🤖 This week, I'm the guest! Flipping the Script: Al Martin, VP WW Technical Sales IBM Talks Tech, Trust & Transformation, this time as a guest, with Ian Smith

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    🎙️ The GRIN Factor: Ryan Debenham on Scaling Influencer Marketing with AI

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    🚀 The Coaching Discussion Reprise with Katie McLuckie and a special guest! The Value of a Business Coach

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    🎙️ Mastering Data Literacy with Matt Cowell, CEO of QuantHub, now with InRule {Replay} 🎧

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    Accelerating Transformation: Fiber, Edge, and Quantum with Marco Rota, VP Strategic Technology Alliances, Lumen Technologies

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    From Hollywood to High-Tech: Marco Rota’s, VP Strategic Technology Alliances at Lumen Technologies, Blueprint for Cultural Transformation

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    Business Leadership for (Technical) Leaders Made Simple: Coaching, Mission, and Mapping Your 2025 Plan with Kate Mayne, Director of Partner Technical Sales, IBM

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    AI Gold Rush: Unpacking Innovation with Patent Attorney Robert Plotkin

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    All Things AI: Exploring Large Language Models with Manav Gupta, VP & CTO of IBM Canada

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    From Kansas to Silicon Valley: Jon Darbyshire, CEO's, Journey with SmartSuite {replay}

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    Beyond ChatGPT: Peter Voss Founder and CEO of Aigo.ai Explains the Future of AI and Hyper-Personalized Systems {replay}

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    A Database for AI with Rich Alake, Developer Advocate at MongoDB

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    Agentic AI: Redefining Decision-Making in a Generative World with Megan Gallagher, GTM Account Director at MavenAGI

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    Data Unplugged: Tech Policy Insights with Aaron Cooper VP of Global Policy at BSA on AI, Privacy, and Global Innovation

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    Bright Ideas with Ben Lowe, CEO of Lighthouse Technology: Entrepreneurship, Agentic AI, and Career Gold.

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    Beyond the Resume: How Alooba is Redefining Hiring with Tim Freestone {Replay}

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    The AI Edge with Phillip Swan: Turning Complex Challenges into Strategic Opportunities

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    "It turns out, Python is still a thing" - Peter Wang, Chief AI and Innovation Officer, Co-Founder of Anaconda, is back!

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    Part 2 with Mr. Ian Smith, the most interesting man alive… Serial Entrepreneurial and Co-founder of Lighthouse Technology, accelerating AI in the data center to optimize IT, Cloud and Data environments.

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    Mr. Ian Smith, the most interesting man alive… Serial Entrepreneurial andCo-founder of Lighthouse Technology, accelerating AI in the data center to optimize IT, Cloud and Data environments

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    5 Truths on GenAI with IBM's Roger Premo, General Manager, Corporate Strategy and Ventures.

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    Get better at decision making: "The harder right versus the easier wrong" with 2 Star General Diane del Rosso {Replay}

    ·21m
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    Learn about the benefits of a SLM (small language model) and other GenAI use cases with Armand Ruiz, Director watsonx Client Engineering {Replay}

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    "The story is the difference" What story do you tell? Learn how to tell a story with impact with Vinca LaFleur, West Wing Writers {Replay}

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    How do you make real-time decisions with data? Talking data with Dima Spivak, Director of Product Management, StreamSets, an IBM company.

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    Design. AI Method. Music. Drop in on some smart watercooler conversation with Distinguished Engineer Greg Hintermeister

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    Curiosity and Client Obsession deliver exceptional results. An interview with Chris Konarski, VP Client Engineering, IBM

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    Master Your Circle: Leadership Coaching for Thriving and Influencing in a Messy World. With Lynne Snead, Founder and Coach at Talent Evolution Systems

    ·42m
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    Learn about Digital Adoption Platforms and scale new heights (!) with Meg Gallagher, Director of Sales, WalkMe

    ·42m
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    Mastering SEO and Consumer Insights with Sam Torres, CDO of Gray Dot Company. And getting educated on gaming. {Replay}

    ·33m
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    Fortune 100 Clients with Clodah Daly, IBM Director of Account Technical Leaders. Stories, sound bites, charisma, and lies!

    ·42m
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    Part 2 : With Roger Premo, General Manager, Corporate Strategy and Ventures. We transition from 5 truths on GenAI to 5 truths on Hybrid Cloud. Everything inquiring minds want to know!

    ·48m
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    Deep into Intelligent Systems and "Artificial General Intelligence" with Peter Voss, Founder and CEO of Aigo.ai.

    ·51m
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    Marketing : The Power of Scarcity with Dr. Mindy Weinstein, Founder and CEO of Market MindShift, Marketing instructor for Grand Canyon University, Columbia Business School, and Wharton. "Trying to reach humans" through digital marketing.

    ·29m
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    Inside AI-Powered Risk Decisioning: Insights from EVP of Provenir North America, Kathy Stares.

    ·35m
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    Emerging Tech, Ayal the Outlier, and no Fear! Part 2 with Ayal Steinberg, GM IBM Technical Community and Client Engineering

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    Tech Talk with Ayal Steinberg, IBM GM Technical Community and Client Engineering: Part 1 - Navigating Sales, Leadership, and Calling the Shots. Unveiling Insights to Operationalize Your Success!

    ·26m
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    About AI and IBM: chat with Rob Thomas, Senior Vice President, Software and Chief Commercial Officer at IBM

    ·28m
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    Edge Delta Insights: Automating Observability with David Wynn. Unveiling Intelligent Solutions for Root-Cause Analysis and Beyond!

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    Mind Over Memory: Empowering You with AI Extensions – A Conversation with Suman Kanuganti, CEO of Personal AI

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    The master of Artificial Intelligence: Ruchir Puri, Chief Scientist of IBM Research, an IBM Fellow, and Vice-President of IBM Corporate Technology. {Replay}

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    Warm Hearts, New Skills! – The Mindful Response with Estela Zuheros {Replay}

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    From Two Phones to Crystal Balls — A CISO's Unfiltered Take on AI and Security with Josh Scott, CISO and VP of Security at Hydrolix

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    ·36m
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    Making Developers and AI Agents more productive with an Enterprise MCP. An in depth review with Craig McLuckie, Founder and CEO of Stacklok.

    An interview discussing StackLock's ToolHive platform for enterprise-grade AI agent integration and policy management.

    ·28m
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    Learn AI Ethics, Risks, and Regulation! Christina Montgomery, IBM's Chief Privacy and Trust Officer. Yes, Law can be fun AND very interesting.

    Hidden gem

    Christina Montgomery joins Making Data Simple as IBM's Chief Privacy and Trust Officer and AI Ethics Board Chair.

    ·45m·3 clips
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    The Hidden Laws Behind Every Decision You Make — with Princeton's Tom Griffiths and his new book, The Laws of Thought

    Hidden gem

    The host opens by calling the episode The Laws of Thought and bringing Tom Griffiths into the room.

    ·44m·2 clips
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    Taming the Messy Data Reality: Turning AI Training Chaos into an $80T IP Asset Class with Andrea Muttoni, President and CPO of Story

    Hidden gem

    The host opens by naming AI's messy data problem.

    ·43m·2 clips
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    From Sovereign AI to Social Impact: The Big Shifts You Need to Watch with IBM VP and CTO of IBM Canada, Manav Gupta

    Hidden gem

    Al Martin brings Manav Gupta back after listeners asked for more of him.

    ·49m·3 clips
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    The Man Who Built Kubernetes Is Betting Everything on This New Idea: Craig McLuckie Founder and CEO of Stacklok

    ·30m
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    Still Essential: Ruchir Puri on AGI, Jensen Huang's Bold Prediction, and Why Reasoning Is the Missing Piece {Replay}

    Hidden gem

    The host starts with Jensen's prediction about the coming wave of agents.

    Apr 15, 2026·27m·1 clip