Making a Scene Presents

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Indie music strategy beyond the viral spike.

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Making a Scene Presents treats the modern indie artist as both creator and operator. Its episodes translate music-business pressure points into plain-spoken playbooks for building leverage beyond algorithms, gatekeepers, and lucky breaks.

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About Making a Scene Presents

Making a Scene Presents approaches indie music from the working end of the road. It starts with familiar scenes: the empty gas tank after a promising weekend, the half-finished coffee in a tour van, the phone buzzing after a social post takes off, the studio session that turns into hours of cable sorting and plug-in updates. Then it turns those scenes into business lessons. The show’s central concern is sustainability. Viral attention is treated as unstable weather, while ownership is treated as shelter, structure, and strategy. Festival booking is not romanticized as a talent contest. It is described through the anxieties of promoters who have already paid for insurance, permits, staffing, fencing, water, and other costs before a single note is played. That shift in perspective gives the advice its bite. The college circuit is reframed the same way, as a serious answer to the dead zones that can drain a tour between weekend anchors. The show also spends time inside the artist’s daily operating system. Home studios are not just rooms with equipment; they are environments that can either support finished work or keep an artist busy without moving anything forward. AI is handled through an indie-business lens, with emphasis on administrative scale rather than machine-made art. Catalogs are treated as assets, especially in conversations about micro-sync licensing and songs sitting unused on hard drives. Across episodes, the show keeps returning to leverage: owned data, direct fan connection, repeatable communication, proof of demand, and revenue that does not depend on being chosen by a platform or gatekeeper. Its style is punchy. The pacing favors back-and-forth explanation, concrete images, and strong contrasts between lottery-ticket thinking and systems thinking. It can sound intense because the stakes are practical: gas, merch, booking, and time. Making a Scene Presents is best understood as a field manual for artists trying to build a middle path between hobbyist survival and label-dependent fantasy. It respects creativity, but it keeps asking what supports it when the spotlight moves on.

Made for: Independent musicians, producers, songwriters, and artist-operators looking for practical career strategy. It also fits listeners curious about how modern music careers are built outside labels and platform luck.

What sets it apart: The show turns music-business advice into concrete operating systems, not vague encouragement. It connects touring, fan ownership, licensing, studio behavior, AI administration, and micro-label thinking into one practical argument for artist control.

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Making a Scene is the #1 Resource for the Indie Artist and the Fans that Love them! http://www.makingascene.org

artist ownershipvirality versus sustainabilityfestival booking proofcollege circuit touringhome studio productivityAI-assisted administrationmicro-label ecosystemsmicro-sync licensing

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Subtractive EQ vs Additive EQ: The Secret to Clean Mixes

    This episode explains how using subtractive EQ rather than additive EQ creates cleaner, more translatable mixes by avoiding frequency buildup and improving overall sonic clarity.

    ·22m
  2. 2

    The Psychology of a Productive Home Studio

    This episode explores how psychological factors, rather than equipment, are the biggest bottleneck in creating a productive home studio environment.

    ·21m
  3. 3

    Duke Robillard is Making a Scene

    This episode promotes makingascene.org as a comprehensive resource for independent artists and music fans, featuring interviews, reviews, and industry insights.

    ·54m
  4. 4

    Interview with Christina Crofts

    This podcast introduces MakingAScene.org's mission to help independent artists build sustainable music careers through education, community, and direct fan connections without relying on traditional industry gatekeepers.

    ·1h 7m
  5. 5

    Creating a Touring Syndicate for Increased Leverage

    This episode explores how independent musicians can create touring syndicates using data cooperatives to gain leverage and avoid financial losses on tours.

    ·22m
  6. 6

    Making Money Before the Release, Not After

    This episode critiques the traditional music release model that forces independent artists to bear all financial risk upfront while waiting for post-release success, advocating for a more sustainable approach.

    ·19m
  7. 7

    Interview with Geoff Newhall from Farmhand

    This episode introduces MakingAScene.org's mission to help independent artists build sustainable music careers through education, community, and direct fan connections without relying on traditional industry gatekeepers.

    ·1h 20m
  8. 8

    Dave Miller is Making a Scene

    This podcast introduces MakingAScene.org, a community and resource platform that helps independent artists build sustainable music careers without relying on traditional industry gatekeepers.

    ·1h 11m
  9. 9

    Predictive Touring: Using AI to Decide Where You Should Play Before You Book the Show

    This episode explores how independent musicians can use AI-powered predictive touring tools to analyze data beyond just listener counts, helping them book shows in cities where they're likely to draw actual crowds instead of playing to empty rooms.

    ·23m
  10. 10

    A New Era for Independent Musicians The Convergence of AI and Decentralized Technology

    This episode explores the disconnect between the booming recorded music market and struggling independent musicians, advocating for a new approach using AI and decentralized technology to build sustainable careers.

    ·23m
  11. 11

    The Home Studio Micro-Enterprise Stack

    This episode explores how independent artists can transform their home studios from hobby spaces into sustainable micro-enterprises using a practical, artist-first technology stack.

    ·21m
  12. 12

    Stop Sending Fans Back Into the Machine

    This episode explores why independent creators often fail to convert viral attention into tangible results like revenue or email subscribers, diagnosing the problem of sending fans back to other platforms instead of capturing their engagement.

    ·25m
  13. 13

    Crowdfunding is Begging Not a Business Plan

    This episode critiques traditional crowdfunding as unsustainable for creators and advocates for shifting to community ownership models for long-term financial stability.

    ·9m
  14. 14

    The Indie Artist’s Field Guide to Booking the College Circuit

    This episode provides a practical guide for independent musicians on how to successfully book and profit from college circuit performances to fill midweek gaps in their touring schedules.

    ·21m
  15. 15

    The Weekend Build: How to Set Up an Owned-Fan Machine in 48 Hours

    This episode presents a 48-hour blueprint for musicians to build an owned fan ecosystem using their website and email list to reduce dependency on streaming platforms and social media algorithms.

    ·17m
  16. 16

    The Playlist Era is Fading

    This episode explores why the Playlist Era is fading in indie music, highlighting how vanity metrics like Spotify playlist placements fail to translate into real-world success for artists.

    ·24m
  17. 17

    Gerry Casey's Interview with Jamie Williams and The Roots Collective

    Gerry Casey interviews musician Jamie Williams about his upcoming album with The Roots Collective, discussing their friendship and the album's creation process.

    ·42m
  18. 18

    Why Networking Still Runs the Music Business

    This episode debunks the digital fantasy that social media metrics alone can build a music career, arguing that lasting success in the industry still fundamentally depends on human networking and relationships.

    ·21m
  19. 19

    Spotify is the Billboard, Not the Building

    This episode challenges indie artists' belief that streaming platforms like Spotify are the destination for success, arguing instead that they should be treated as marketing billboards while artists focus on building direct ownership and revenue streams.

    ·19m
  20. 20

    Interview with the Badrock Blues Band

    This episode introduces MakingAScene.org's mission to help independent artists build sustainable music careers through education, interviews, and community support.

    ·1h 10m
  21. 21

    Interview with Erik Vincent Huey

    This episode introduces an interview with Erik Vincent Huey, focusing on helping independent artists build sustainable music careers without relying on traditional industry gatekeepers.

    ·55m
  22. 22

    Wingman Mixed In Key A Demo Accelerator

    This episode reviews Mixed In Key's Wingman plugin as an AI accelerator tool designed to help music producers overcome creative paralysis and bridge the gap between hearing a song idea in their head and actually building it in their DAW.

    ·13m
  23. 23

    Interview with Claire Lugar of the Minnesota Music Resistance!

    This episode features an interview with Claire Lugar of the Minnesota Music Resistance, discussing how independent artists can build sustainable music careers without relying on traditional industry gatekeepers.

    ·1h 2m
  24. 24

    Interview with Jordan Rainer

    This episode promotes makingascene.org as a comprehensive resource for independent artists and music fans, offering interviews, reviews, and practical industry advice.

    ·43m
  25. 25

    Your AI Twin: Building a Digital Version of Yourself That Markets While You Sleep

    This episode explores how independent artists can use AI to create a digital twin that handles marketing and administrative tasks, allowing them to focus on creative work while addressing ethical concerns about AI in the art community.

    ·21m
  26. 26

    Gerry Casey Interviews Guy Verlinde

    Gerry Casey interviews Belgian blues musician Guy Verlinde about his early musical influences and how he started playing guitar at age 16.

    ·33m
  27. 27

    Gerry Casey Interviews Otis

    Gerry Casey interviews Boone from the Southern rock band Otis about their new single 'I'm Wicked', recent success, and band activities.

    ·40m
  28. 28

    Gerry Casey's Interview with Billy Bucklers of Billobucklers

    This interview features Billy Buckle discussing his band Billobucklers' new single about young adult suicide and the inspiration behind the song.

    ·24m
  29. 29

    The Real Reason Streaming Pays So Little, And Why It Was Designed That Way

    This episode explores how streaming platforms were intentionally designed to pay artists very little, debunking the narrative that streaming saved the music industry from piracy.

    ·23m
  30. 30

    Don Arbor is Making a Scene

    This podcast introduces MakingAScene.org, a community and resource platform that helps independent artists build sustainable music careers without relying on traditional industry gatekeepers.

    ·59m
  31. 31

    How to Tour Like a Pro

    This episode provides a comprehensive guide for indie musicians on transforming touring from a grueling grind into a sustainable, repeatable system using modern tools like AI and Web3 to build a true music industry middle class.

    ·24m
  32. 32

    Interview with Erick Brandt

    This episode promotes makingascene.org as a comprehensive resource for independent artists and music fans, featuring interviews, reviews, and practical advice for navigating the music industry.

    ·1h 6m
  33. 33

    Interview with Dan Leary of Institutional Green

    This episode introduces MakingAScene.org's mission to help independent artists build sustainable music careers through education, community, and direct fan connections without relying on traditional industry gatekeepers.

    ·1h 6m
  34. 34

    The Music Industry’s War on Ownership

    This episode explores how digital platforms like Spotify use product design and algorithms to undermine artist ownership and revenue despite high streaming numbers.

    ·22m
  35. 35

    EQ-Based Gating: The Smart Way to Leave Space in a Mix Without Killing the Music

    This episode explores EQ-based gating as a technique to create space in music mixes without sacrificing energy, addressing common issues like muddiness and frequency buildup.

    ·23m
  36. 36

    Why Direct-to-Fan SMS Marketing Is Beating the Algorithm

    This episode explores how direct-to-fan SMS marketing is becoming more effective than social media algorithms for creators and independent artists to generate reliable revenue.

    ·18m
  37. 37

    Why Most Indie Artists are Underpaid Data Workers

    This episode explores how independent artists transition from creative work to tedious data entry and social media tasks when distributing their music, framing them as underpaid data workers.

    ·20m
  38. 38

    Interview with Dida Pelled

    This episode introduces MakingAScene.org's mission to help independent artists build sustainable music careers through education, interviews, and community support.

    ·54m
  39. 39

    Stop Chasing Virality and Start Building a Sustainable Micro-Label Ecosystem Today

    This episode explores how independent musicians can shift from chasing viral content to building sustainable micro-label ecosystems for greater control and career stability.

    ·22m
  40. 40

    How to Create a Local Music Scene

    This episode challenges the romanticized view of local music scenes as organic phenomena and argues they must be deliberately constructed as infrastructure systems, particularly in the post-pandemic landscape where live music habits have been disrupted.

    ·20m
  41. 41

    The Living Room Circuit How to Book House Concerts

    This episode explores how independent artists are transforming house concerts into a profitable and sustainable touring infrastructure instead of relying on traditional bar venues.

    ·23m
  42. 42

    Gerry Casey's Interview with Gina Coleman

    Gerry Casey interviews Gina Coleman about her solo tribute album 'Uncrowned' dedicated to blues legend Ida Cox, exploring her background as a blues historian and the inspiration behind the project.

    ·32m
  43. 43

    Why Micro-Sync Licensing Should Be Part of Every Independent Songwriter’s Business Plan

    This episode explains how independent songwriters can use micro-sync licensing to create reliable revenue streams from their existing work instead of relying on traditional 'big break' opportunities.

    ·20m
  44. 44

    Interview with Eliza Neals

    This episode introduces MakingAScene.org's mission to help independent artists build sustainable music careers through education, community, and direct fan connections without relying on traditional industry gatekeepers.

    ·1h 18m
  45. 45

    Layering Tracks Like a Pro: Building Big Sounds with Minimal Gear

    This episode explores how to create big, professional-sounding music with minimal equipment by focusing on smart arrangement and frequency layering techniques rather than expensive gear.

    ·25m
  46. 46

    Gerry Casey's Interview with Slady

    Gerry Casey interviews the all-female tribute band Slady, who perform as Slade, discussing their music and live performances.

    ·36m
  47. 47

    Gerry Casey Interviews Eliza Neals

    Gerry Casey interviews Detroit musician Eliza Neals about her new single 'Love Will' and her passionate approach to music.

    ·42m
  48. 48

    Interview with a Pro - Nadim Rahman - Songproof

    This episode features an interview with Nadim Rahman from Soundproof, discussing practical insights for independent artists navigating the music industry.

    ·52m
  49. 49

    Booking the Festival Circuit Isn’t About “Buzz.” It’s About Proof

    This episode challenges indie artists' fantasies about festival booking, arguing it's not based on buzz or luck but on proof and financial systems.

    Feb 12, 2026·18m·1 clip
  50. 50

    Why Ownership Beats Virality Every Time

    This episode argues that ownership is more sustainable than virality for indie artists, using analogies like weather events vs buildings and spikes vs slopes to explain why building a steady business beats chasing fleeting viral fame.

    Feb 12, 2026·13m·1 clip