Kids Math Talk

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Elementary math talk that starts from what children bring.

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Kids Math Talk pairs elementary math coach Desiree Harrison with guests, several of them authors of teaching books, for conversations about how children come to understand math. The talk stays close to the school day: fact fluency that lasts, word problems given room to breathe, and professional learning that treats teachers as just as capable as their students.

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About Kids Math Talk

Kids Math Talk is an interview podcast about elementary mathematics and the beliefs adults bring to teaching it. Desiree Harrison hosts, introducing herself as an elementary math coach and the founder of Kids Math Talk. By the show's own account, it talks a lot about asset-based pedagogy and about beliefs over who can learn math. The guests test those ideas against practice. Dr. John Tapper's episode is framed as a push past belief and theory toward on-the-ground practice and evidence. One line from that conversation turns a familiar assumption around: the job is not to present math so children can learn it, but to understand learners so they can understand math. Practical questions get their turn too. With Dr. Juli K. Dixon, the talk runs through what teachers ask when they size up a fact fluency resource, from preparation time each week to differentiation to fitting it into a packed schedule. She describes a pilot that ran in third, fourth and fifth grade at once, and notes that facts learned without multiplicative reasoning are often forgotten the following year. Kim Morrow-Leong and Sara Delano Moore make the case for slowing down. Their sandbox is a metaphor for the time and space children need to play with a word problem, represent it and translate it into something meaningful before solving it. The episode's introduction defines bare number problems as equations with no context, such as three plus five. The guests argue that a moment for mathematizing can come from a child's story about home, an idea in science or a map, and that a predetermined pace leaves no room to catch it. Peter Liljedahl's episode centres on his book Building Thinking Classrooms and picks up a discussion from episode 15 about labeling and ability grouping. The show describes both as practices that hinder growth and can damage a child's mathematical identity. Chase Orton's two-part conversation on professional learning applies the same thinking to teachers. He contrasts a content-focused system with a story-focused one and asks where joy, curiosity, perseverance and empathy show up on a standardized test. The shift he wants for students, sharing authority and treating learners as capable, is the same shift he wants in the professional development room. The second part asks listeners to hear the first before pressing play, so the pair works best in order. For concrete classroom logistics, the Dixon conversation is the natural place to begin. For the bigger argument about labels and belonging, start with Liljedahl or Orton.

Made for: Suits an elementary teacher, math coach or parent who wants research-minded ideas about teaching math, tied to everyday classroom questions like preparation time, differentiation and pacing.

What sets it apart: It treats the adults' learning as part of the math problem. Classroom specifics such as fact fluency and play with word problems sit alongside conversations about labeling, ability grouping, and professional development that shares authority the way a strong math class does.

In their own words

Children are listening and learning from everything we say. The goal of the Kids Math Talk Podcast is to give parents and educators practical tips and insights that will deepen mathematical understanding while also encouraging the conversation about math to remain active and positive.

Why you'd press play

Word problems get a sandbox before they get an answer; your lesson plan may need one too.

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  • to give students room to make sense of a word problem before reaching for an equation
  • to build on what students know, even when the pacing guide is tapping its watch
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Spotlight on Professional Learning - Part 2 with Chase OrtonNov 7, 2023

A thoughtful case for shifting math teaching from accountability toward responsibility, equity, and students' full humanity.

Professional learning takes on a clearer moral charge as Chase Orton contrasts accountability with responsibility. Speaking with Desiree Harrison, he frames teachers as active shapers of mathematical learning, not merely responders to habits a system may have trained into…

Building On What Students Know - An Interview with Dr. John TapperOct 3, 2023

A thoughtful conversation about replacing deficit assumptions with closer attention to learners and the teaching they deserve.

Kids Math Talk frames asset-based pedagogy as a serious test of classroom practice: can teachers know their learners well enough to help them know mathematics?

Engaging Students with Fact Fluency - An Interview with Dr. Juli K. DixonSep 5, 2023

A grounded look at fact fluency, preparation time, differentiation, and how students carry facts forward.

Fact fluency is framed as a practical design problem, shaped by preparation time, differentiation, and the squeeze of a crowded school schedule. Dr.

Spotlight on Professional Learning - Part 1 with Chase OrtonAug 22, 2023

A reflective case for giving teachers more agency in professional learning.

Kids Math Talk frames professional learning less as a scheduled block and more as a question of teacher agency. Chase Orton draws on his classroom years, coaching work, and The Imperfect and Unfinished Math Teacher to argue that educators deserve to be treated as capable,…

Playing in the Math Sandbox - An interview with Kim Morrow-Leong and Sara Delano MooreMar 1, 2022

A practical case for giving young mathematicians time to make word problems mean something.

A metaphorical sandbox gives young math learners permission to sit with word problems before racing toward an answer. The episode frames that space through mathematizing: noticing the mathematics inside a child's story, a picture book, a science idea, or a map, then using…

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  1. 1

    Spotlight on Professional Learning - Part 2 with Chase Orton

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    Chase Orton and Desiree Harrison connect Peter Liljedahl, NCTM's "Catalyzing Change," and the Kids Math Talk focus on professional learning.

    Nov 7, 2023·29m·1 clip
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    Building On What Students Know - An Interview with Dr. John Tapper

    Hidden gem

    Kids Math Talk host Desiree Harrison interviews John Tapper, founder of All Learners Network, about improving mathematics teaching through evidence from student thinking.

    Oct 3, 2023·37m·2 clips
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    Engaging Students with Fact Fluency - An Interview with Dr. Juli K. Dixon

    Hidden gem

    Desiree Harrison interviews Dr.

    Sep 5, 2023·35m·2 clips
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    Spotlight on Professional Learning - Part 1 with Chase Orton

    Hidden gem

    Chase Orton discusses The Imperfect and Unfinished Math Teacher with Kids Math Talk host Desiree Harrison, focusing on professional learning for mathematics educators.

    Aug 22, 2023·31m·2 clips
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    Playing in the Math Sandbox - An interview with Kim Morrow-Leong and Sara Delano Moore

    Hidden gem

    Desiree Harris talks with Sarah Delano Moore and Kimberly Mara Leong about the K–2 book series Mathematize It and its idea of a "mathematizing sandbox." Sarah defines mathematizing as the space between reading a problem and calculating, while Kim links it to children using multiple representations and manipulatives.

    Mar 1, 2022·46m·2 clips
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    Making Math Come to Life! An Interview with TJ Jemison

    Feb 1, 2022·36m
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    Why Do 5 Frames Matter? KMT Parent Resource #1

    Nov 2, 2021·4m
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    Exploring Basic Math Fact Fluency - An Interview with Dr. Nicki, Dr. Alison J. Mello, Ann Elise Record

    Oct 26, 2021·1h 1m
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    Bonus Episode - Making Connections with Pam and Dawn

    Sep 28, 2021·10m
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    Culturally Responsive Teaching and Making Tasks accessible- Part 3 of an interview with Pam and Dawn

    Sep 28, 2021·13m
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    Increasing Equity for All Learners by Using Wait Time - Part 2 of an interview with Pam and Dawn

    Sep 21, 2021·18m
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    Increasing Equity for All Learners and Creating a Shared Background- Part 1 of an interview with Pam and Dawn

    Sep 21, 2021·19m
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    How Do We Build Financial Literacy? Strategies for Young Learners - An Interview with Lindsay Gold

    Sep 14, 2021·33m
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    Empowering Children as Decision Makers - An Interview with Jenny and John

    Sep 7, 2021·37m
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    Redefining and Empowering Math Identities - A preview of the Math Equity Conference with Dr. Jamila Riser

    Aug 31, 2021·27m
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    Engaging Parents in Math- An Interview with Hilary and Matthew

    Aug 24, 2021·27m
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    Connecting Math, Literacy, and Growth Mindset- An Interview with Alice Aspinall

    Aug 17, 2021·30m
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    How Are You Positioning Multilingual Students? Empowering Math Learners - An Interview with Kathryn Chval

    Aug 10, 2021·51m
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    Building Math Coherence in your School-An Interview with Karen Karp, Barbara Dougherty, Sarah Bush

    Aug 3, 2021·42m
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    Implementing Rich Math Tasks - An Interview with Delise Andrews and Sorsha T. Mulroe

    Aug 3, 2021·28m
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    Advocating for Early Math with Carolyn Pfister and Lisa Grant

    Jun 8, 2021·21m
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    Family Roots - An Interview with Dr. and Mrs. Harrison

    Jun 1, 2021·51m
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    The Power of Listening to Children's Thinking - An Interview with Berkeley Everett, Christine Allen, and Karen Recinos

    May 25, 2021·43m
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    Math is Play! National Math Festival Preview with Dr. Emille Davie Lawrence

    Mar 30, 2021·13m
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    Promoting Parent Partnerships with Video Feedback Loops - KMT Spotlight on Nick Harris

    Mar 30, 2021·50m
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    Everything You Never Learned About Fractions- Part 2

    Mar 16, 2021·17m
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    Mathematizing Mindsets - An Interview with Janet, Mariana, and Kirsta

    Mar 9, 2021·43m
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    Everything You Never Learned About Fractions- Part 1

    Mar 2, 2021·16m
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    5 Practices to Improve your Practice - An Interview with Peg Smith

    Feb 23, 2021·39m
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    KMT Spotlight: Growth Mindset with Kendra Thurmond

    Feb 16, 2021·29m
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    Why Does Representation Matter in the Math Classroom? - An Interview with Vada Gray

    Feb 9, 2021·39m
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    How Do We Create Thinking Classrooms? - An Interview with Peter Liljedahl

    This episode continues a discussion on unproductive math practices and interviews researcher Peter Lilliedahl about his book on building thinking classrooms.

    Feb 2, 2021·50m
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    What's the Impact of Labeling Kids?- An Interview with Kaneka Turner

    This episode critiques ability grouping in elementary math classrooms, arguing it undermines equity and positive mathematical identity.

    Jan 19, 2021·34m
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    Connecting Numbers to our World - An Interview with Anna Gifty

    This episode explores how to expose children to economics as a career path through math education, featuring guest Anna Gifty.

    Dec 1, 2020·41m
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    Student Discourse and Engagement Goals- An Interview with Paola Sztajn and Kristen Malzahn

    This episode features authors of 'Activating Math Talk' discussing techniques to increase student discourse and build positive math identities in elementary classrooms.

    Nov 17, 2020·39m
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    Teaching Math Online - An Interview with Theresa Wills

    Nov 10, 2020·21m
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    Empowering Students as Math Learners - An Interview with DeAnn Huinker

    Aug 18, 2020·22m
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    Increasing Active Engagement Online

    Aug 11, 2020·24m
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    Creating an Online Kids Math Talk Community

    Aug 4, 2020·15m
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    Creating our Next Normal

    Jul 28, 2020·12m
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    Creating Powerful Visual Images

    Jul 21, 2020·20m
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    Fluency Takes Time

    Jul 14, 2020·19m
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    3 Strategies to Stop Math Anxiety Before It Starts

    Jul 7, 2020·18m
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    Pausing to Move Forward

    Jun 30, 2020·12m
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    Building a Positive Mathematics Identity

    Jun 23, 2020·12m
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    Welcome to Kids Math Talk

    Jun 11, 2020·2m