Jacobs Ladder Podcast

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Christian faith for work, pain, and purpose.

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Jacobs Ladder Podcast frames Christian belief as something practiced in ordinary hours, not kept apart from work or hardship. Its conversations move from workplace faith and church purpose to suffering, Psalms, Torah observance, AI, and spiritual beliefs in the United States.

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About Jacobs Ladder Podcast

Jacobs Ladder Podcast is an interview-led Christian series with a practical center. It keeps returning to one basic concern: what faith looks like when life is not abstract. Work matters here. So do illness, regret, prayer, Scripture, church purpose, and the pressure to keep faith private during the week. The conversations are usually unhurried, with guests first tracing a faith journey or personal background before moving into the episode's main topic. That gives the show a pastoral rhythm without turning it into a sermon. Recent episodes with Ben Locke focus on suffering, desperate prayer, Scripture, redemption, and the recurring need to be renewed rather than trapped by the past. The discussion of Thank God It's Monday with Tom Peterson gives the workplace special attention, especially the tension Christians can feel between professional caution and a fully lived faith. Adam Rasmussen's episode broadens the lens to spiritual beliefs in the United States, worldview, syncretism, multiple gods, and the way AI may amplify existing ideas about humanity. Caleb Hegg's appearance moves into Torah observance, Yeshua, reformation history, and biblical resources from the Torah Resource Institute. Alan Noble's conversation, as excerpted, considers the quiet significance of getting out of bed and choosing life in ordinary action. Jason Pierce's episode asks how church, personal vision, and corporate purpose fit together. Jim Papandrea brings the series into prayer, the Psalms, and the early church through his writing. The show works best when it lets a specific book or guest story become a doorway into a broader Christian question. Its language is plain and sincere. It does not chase controversy for effect, but it is willing to ask where modern church habits, work habits, and cultural beliefs may be misaligned. For listeners looking for Christian living content with workplace relevance and a patient interview pace, Jacobs Ladder Podcast offers grounded, faith-forward conversations that stay close to everyday decisions.

Made for: For Christian listeners who want reflective, interview-based conversations about living faith at work, at home, in suffering, and inside church life. It especially suits those drawn to books, testimony, Scripture, and practical discipleship.

What sets it apart: The show gives workplace faith the same seriousness many Christian programs give marriage, parenting, prayer, and church life. Its range is unusually broad, moving from Monday office pressure to Psalms, Torah observance, AI, spiritual surveys, and suffering without losing its devotional center.

In their own words

Dave Hilgendorf from DaveHilgendorf.com interviews men from all walks of life who are choosing daily to be led by the Holy Spirit and live out their Christian faith at their work and because of that they are leading, prospering, glorifying God, and experiencing joy and purpose in their work, and you can too. Have you bought into the lie that your work has no real significance or meaning beyond a paycheck? How about the lie that the time you spend working is not kingdom work and not part of God's plan unless you're a full-time pastor or missionary or you're volunteering at your local church? The Devil is thrilled when you spend your work day feeling like the work you do is somehow second clas…

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Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Jacobs Ladder Podcast connects Christian conviction to work, suffering and cultural change through patient, application-minded interviews.

Dave Hilgendorf builds Jacobs Ladder Podcast around interviews that connect Christian belief to ordinary decisions, private suffering and public life. He begins by asking guests about their faith journeys, then moves toward the work that brought them to the conversation.

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Monday morning meets Torah observance here, when your faith questions refuse to stay politely compartmentalized.

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  • your workday treated as spiritually consequential, without pretending office faith is easy or socially frictionless
  • prayerful language for suffering that makes room for desperation, regret, and dependence instead of a self-help escape hatch
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  1. 1

    Father Filtering Service-Saleh108-CMAW212

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  2. 2

    In Our Suffering with Ben Locke-Pt2-JL251

    ·21m
  3. 3

    In Our Suffering with Ben Locke - Pt1 - JL249

    ·27m
  4. 4

    Thank God It's Monday with Tom Petersen - JL247

    ·29m
  5. 5

    Torah Observance Yesterday and Today with Caleb Hegg - JL 245

    ·39m
  6. 6

    JL 244 - Peanut Butter, Sandwiches, and 20 to 1 - PPP 121

    ·9m
  7. 7

    Torah Resource History with Caleb Hegg - JL 243

    ·38m
  8. 8

    JL 242 - Ask Rhetorical Questions - PPP120

    ·11m
  9. 9

    Restored with Cindy Brinker Simmons - JL 241

    ·40m
  10. 10

    JL 240 - Avoid Leading Questions - PPP 119

    ·6m
  11. 11

    Grace-Based Transformation with Jonathan Daugherty Pt 2 - JL239

    ·31m
  12. 12

    JL 238 - Work as the Meaning of Life - PPP 118

    ·14m
  13. 13

    Grace-Based Transformation with Jonathan Daugherty Pt 1 - JL237

    ·35m
  14. 14

    JL 236 - Work as the Meaning of Life - PPP 117

    ·15m
  15. 15

    Apologia for the Sabbath with Roger Hadad - JL235

    ·46m
  16. 16

    Fulltime vs Click-JL234

    ·17m
  17. 17

    Lessons from Parenting at Work with Adam Malone - JL233

    ·30m
  18. 18

    Lessons from Dark Matter - JL232 - PPP115

    ·27m
  19. 19

    On Getting Out of Bed Pt2 with Alan Noble - JL231

    ·25m
  20. 20

    JL 230 - Mental Health - PPP114

    ·13m
  21. 21

    On Getting Out of Bed Pt1 with Alan Noble - JL229

    ·38m
  22. 22

    JL 228 - Lessons from the Movie Here - PPP113

    ·12m
  23. 23

    Are We Doing Church Wrong with Jason Pierce-JL227

    ·47m
  24. 24

    JL 226 - Morning Prayers - PPP112

    ·15m
  25. 25

    Praying the Psalms with Jim Papandrea - JL225

    ·37m
  26. 26

    JL 224 - Cycles of Life and Work - PPP111

    ·31m
  27. 27

    Apologia for the Law Pt 2 with Roger Hadad - JL 223

    ·40m
  28. 28

    Apologia for the Law Pt 1 with Roger Hadad - JL222

    ·46m
  29. 29

    JL221 - Welcome Part 2 - Welcome to the Jacobs Ladder Podcast

    ·10m
  30. 30

    Real Estate Investing with Brett Snodgrass-CMAW219

    ·52m
  31. 31

    AI with Luke Richey-CMAW218

    ·45m
  32. 32

    Get and Give Feedback-Selah113-CMAW217

    ·8m
  33. 33

    110% at Work-Selah112-CMAW216

    ·9m
  34. 34

    Unseen, Seen, Unseen-Selah111-CMAW215

    ·13m
  35. 35

    One Measure of a Man-Selah110-CMAW214

    ·5m
  36. 36

    Father Filtering Being Content-Selah109-CMAW213

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  37. 37

    Current Spiritual Beliefs with Adam Rasmussen-JL253

    ·32m
  38. 38

    Fathering Filtering Speech-Selah107-CMAW211

    ·7m
  39. 39

    Fathering Filtering Sight-Selah106-CMAW210

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  40. 40

    Liking Gap at Work-Selah105-CMAW209

    ·8m
  41. 41

    4 Work Tips from Gen 33-Selah104-CMAW208

    ·16m
  42. 42

    Jokic vs Kroc-Selah103-CMAW207

    ·10m
  43. 43

    Hearing from God with Greg Pruett-CMAW206

    ·50m
  44. 44

    Principles and Whistles-Selah102-CMAW205

    ·5m
  45. 45

    Pandemic Study with Adam Rasmussen-CMAW204

    ·47m
  46. 46

    Which Direction-Selah101-CMAW203

    ·7m
  47. 47

    2 Ways to Win at Work-Selah100-CMAW202

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  48. 48

    Save Your Marriage with Jerry Jacobs-CMAW201

    ·45m
  49. 49

    Forgiveness-Selah97-CMAW199

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  50. 50

    Two Testimonies-Selah96-CMAW198

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  51. 51

    Blessings-Selah95-CMAW197

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  52. 52

    Change-Selah94-CMAW196

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  53. 53

    Rocky 2-Selah93-CMAW195

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  54. 54

    Quiet Time-Selah92-CMAW194

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  55. 55

    What Shall We Do-Selah91-CMAW193

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  56. 56

    False Freedom-Selah90-CMAW191

    ·18m
  57. 57

    Share Your Story with Erin Ahnfeldt-CMAW190

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  58. 58

    Second Chances-Selah89-CMAW189

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  59. 59

    Groundhog Day-Selah88-CMAW188

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  60. 60

    Power in Prison with Steven Snook-CMAW187

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  61. 61

    Friends-Selah87-CMAW186

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  62. 62

    Milestone to Manhood with Steven Arms-CMAW185

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  63. 63

    Be Dangerous Good with Kenny Luck-CMAW184

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  64. 64

    Unity-Selah86-CMAW183

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  65. 65

    Your Purpose-Selah85-CMAW182

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  66. 66

    Dream Job-Selah84-CMAW181

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  67. 67

    HSE, ESG and YHWH-Selah83-CMAW180

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  68. 68

    Customer Service with Ron Johnson-CMAW179

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  69. 69

    Faithfulness-Selah82-CMAW178

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    Train, Serve, Teach-Selah81-CMAW177

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  71. 71

    Fixing Everything-Selah80-CMAW176

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  72. 72

    Random Thoughts-Selah79-CMAW175

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  73. 73

    Humility or Boldness at Work-Selah 78-CMAW174

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    CMAD and Podcast Update-Selah77-CMAW173

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  75. 75

    Counting the Omer-Selah75-CMAW172

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  76. 76

    Are You Clean-Selah74-CMAW171

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  77. 77

    Precision vs Accuracy-Selah73-CMAW170

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  78. 78

    Speak Less and Speak More-Selah72-CMAW169

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  79. 79

    What You Can Control-Selah71-CMAW168

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  80. 80

    Time for Urgency-Selah70-CMAW167

    ·26m
  81. 81

    Be Holy at Work-Selah69-CMAW166

    ·14m
  82. 82

    Be a Creator-Selah68-CMAW165

    ·9m
  83. 83

    Works of Creation-Selah67-CMAW164

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  84. 84

    Your Service of Calling-Selah66-CMAW16

    ·24m
  85. 85

    Finding Your Purpose-Selah65-CMAW162

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  86. 86

    Visualizing Priorities-Selah64-CMAW161

    ·24m
  87. 87

    Lessons from the Amish-Selah63-CMAW160

    ·21m
  88. 88

    The Power of a Name-Selah62-CMAW159

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  89. 89

    Are You a Tough Guy with Paul Horrocks-CMAW158

    ·27m
  90. 90

    Sandwich Prayer at Work-Selah61-CMAW157

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  91. 91

    Long Term Vision-Selah60-CMAW156

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  92. 92

    Rob Skiba Tribute-Selah59-CMAW155

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  93. 93

    Ouch! The Sting of Correction-Selah58-CMAW154

    ·11m
  94. 94

    How to Really Know-Selah 57-CMAW153

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  95. 95

    Open Air Preaching-CMAW152

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  96. 96

    Who's Watching You at Work-Selah56-CMAW151

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  97. 97

    Logical Fallacies-Selah55-CMAW150

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  98. 98

    A Theology of Guerilla Warfare by Matt Trewhella-Selah54-Selah149

    ·54m
  99. 99

    Truplay Gaming with Brent Dusing-CMAW192

    An interview with Brent Duesing, CEO of TruePlay, about his Christian faith and work in biblically sound gaming.

    ·32m
  100. 100

    Vision for Life with Jason Pierce-CMAW220

    An interview with Dr.

    ·38m
  101. 101

    Current Spiritual Beliefs with Adam Rasmussen-JL253

    Hidden gem

    Adam Rasmussen tells Jacob's Ladder Podcast that 92% of Americans fit syncretism, a custom mix of beliefs, while only 4% hold an integrated biblical worldview.

    Aug 11, 2025·32m·2 clips
  102. 102

    In Our Suffering with Ben Locke-Pt2-JL251

    Host David interviews Ben Locke about his book 'In Our Suffering, Lord Be Near: Prayers of Hope for the Hurting' in the second part of a two-episode series on Jacob's Ladder Podcast.

    Jul 14, 2025·21m·1 clip
  103. 103

    In Our Suffering with Ben Locke - Pt1 - JL249

    Host David interviews author Ben Locke about his book 'In Our Suffering, Lord Be Near: Prayers of Hope for the Hurting,' covering the experiences that led Locke to write it — including a career-ending soccer injury at NC State, a severe car accident, and two to three years of bed rest from autoimmune disease.

    Jun 16, 2025·27m·1 clip
  104. 104

    Thank God It's Monday with Tom Petersen - JL247

    Hidden gem

    Jacob's Ladder Podcast episode 247 features Dave interviewing Tom Peterson about faith at work and Peterson's book, Thank God It's Monday, which he describes as a humorous take on workplace mistakes.

    May 19, 2025·29m·2 clips
  105. 105

    Torah Observance Yesterday and Today with Caleb Hegg - JL 245

    Hidden gem

    Caleb Hegg of the Torah Resource Institute traces Torah observance from alleged fifth-century Sabbath restrictions through the Celtic church, African Christian groups, Seventh-day Adventists, and the 1980s Hebrew Roots movement.

    May 5, 2025·39m·3 clips
  106. 106

    JL 244 - Peanut Butter, Sandwiches, and 20 to 1 - PPP 121

    Apr 21, 2025·9m
  107. 107

    Torah Resource History with Caleb Hegg - JL 243

    Apr 7, 2025·38m
  108. 108

    JL 242 - Ask Rhetorical Questions - PPP120

    Mar 24, 2025·11m
  109. 109

    Restored with Cindy Brinker Simmons - JL 241

    Mar 10, 2025·40m
  110. 110

    JL 240 - Avoid Leading Questions - PPP 119

    Feb 24, 2025·6m
  111. 111

    Grace-Based Transformation with Jonathan Daugherty Pt 2 - JL239

    Feb 10, 2025·31m
  112. 112

    JL 238 - Work as the Meaning of Life - PPP 118

    Jan 27, 2025·14m
  113. 113

    Grace-Based Transformation with Jonathan Daugherty Pt 1 - JL237

    Jan 20, 2025·35m
  114. 114

    JL 236 - Work as the Meaning of Life - PPP 117

    Jan 13, 2025·15m
  115. 115

    Apologia for the Sabbath with Roger Hadad - JL235

    Jan 6, 2025·46m
  116. 116

    Fulltime vs Click-JL234

    Dec 30, 2024·17m
  117. 117

    Lessons from Parenting at Work with Adam Malone - JL233

    Dec 23, 2024·30m
  118. 118

    Lessons from Dark Matter - JL232 - PPP115

    Dec 16, 2024·27m
  119. 119

    On Getting Out of Bed Pt2 with Alan Noble - JL231

    Dave Hilgendorf interviews Alan Noble about the significance of everyday choices like getting out of bed as acts of faith.

    Dec 9, 2024·25m
  120. 120

    JL 230 - Mental Health - PPP114

    Dec 2, 2024·13m
  121. 121

    On Getting Out of Bed Pt1 with Alan Noble - JL229

    Nov 25, 2024·38m
  122. 122

    JL 228 - Lessons from the Movie Here - PPP113

    Nov 18, 2024·12m
  123. 123

    Are We Doing Church Wrong with Jason Pierce-JL227

    Dave Hilgendorf interviews Jason Pierce about whether the Christian church is doing church correctly and how vision relates to loving God and others at work.

    Nov 11, 2024·47m
  124. 124

    JL 226 - Morning Prayers - PPP112

    Nov 4, 2024·15m
  125. 125

    Praying the Psalms with Jim Papandrea - JL225

    Dave Hilgendorf interviews Jim Papandrea about his book 'Praying with the Psalms' and how to love God through prayer.

    Oct 28, 2024·37m
  126. 126

    JL 224 - Cycles of Life and Work - PPP111

    Oct 21, 2024·31m
  127. 127

    Apologia for the Law Pt 2 with Roger Hadad - JL 223

    Oct 14, 2024·40m
  128. 128

    Apologia for the Law Pt 1 with Roger Hadad - JL222

    Oct 7, 2024·46m
  129. 129

    JL221 - Welcome Part 2 - Welcome to the Jacobs Ladder Podcast

    Sep 27, 2024·10m
  130. 130

    Vision for Life with Jason Pierce-CMAW220

    Feb 5, 2024·38m
  131. 131

    Real Estate Investing with Brett Snodgrass-CMAW219

    Dec 26, 2023·52m
  132. 132

    AI with Luke Richey-CMAW218

    Dave Hilgendorf interviews men who integrate their Christian faith into their daily work, exploring how they find purpose and joy.

    Nov 26, 2023·45m
  133. 133

    Get and Give Feedback-Selah113-CMAW217

    Nov 13, 2023·8m
  134. 134

    110% at Work-Selah112-CMAW216

    Nov 2, 2023·9m
  135. 135

    Unseen, Seen, Unseen-Selah111-CMAW215

    Aug 27, 2023·13m
  136. 136

    One Measure of a Man-Selah110-CMAW214

    Aug 20, 2023·5m
  137. 137

    Father Filtering Being Content-Selah109-CMAW213

    Aug 6, 2023·5m
  138. 138

    Father Filtering Service-Saleh108-CMAW212

    Jul 30, 2023·4m
  139. 139

    Fathering Filtering Speech-Selah107-CMAW211

    Jul 23, 2023·7m
  140. 140

    Fathering Filtering Sight-Selah106-CMAW210

    Jul 16, 2023·6m
  141. 141

    Liking Gap at Work-Selah105-CMAW209

    Jul 10, 2023·8m
  142. 142

    4 Work Tips from Gen 33-Selah104-CMAW208

    Jun 12, 2023·16m
  143. 143

    Jokic vs Kroc-Selah103-CMAW207

    Jun 4, 2023·10m
  144. 144

    Hearing from God with Greg Pruett-CMAW206

    An interview with Greg Pruitt about his book 'Extraordinary Hearing' and how to hear from God in the workplace.

    May 29, 2023·50m
  145. 145

    Principles and Whistles-Selah102-CMAW205

    May 22, 2023·5m
  146. 146

    Pandemic Study with Adam Rasmussen-CMAW204

    May 16, 2023·47m
  147. 147

    Which Direction-Selah101-CMAW203

    May 1, 2023·7m
  148. 148

    2 Ways to Win at Work-Selah100-CMAW202

    Apr 24, 2023·4m
  149. 149

    Save Your Marriage with Jerry Jacobs-CMAW201

    Apr 17, 2023·45m
  150. 150

    Forgiveness-Selah97-CMAW199

    Apr 3, 2023·6m