
California politics, reported through close conversation.
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It's All Political is a San Francisco Chronicle politics interview show centered on California’s public fights and political personalities. Joe Garofoli brings reporters, officeholders, clergy, editors, and industry figures into direct conversations about how policy becomes power.
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About It’s All Political
It's All Political is a Chronicle-grounded politics interview show with California at its center. It follows policy where it gets messy. Joe Garofoli sets up each conversation with enough context to make the stakes clear, then presses guests through the claims, contradictions, and personal histories behind the headlines. The show is especially strong when state issues reveal national fault lines. Cannabis legalization becomes a fight over taxes, local control, regulation, and the surviving illegal market. Universal basic income becomes a story about Stockton, cash support, poverty, and Michael Tubbs’s larger argument about economic insecurity. Redistricting becomes more than a procedural map exercise. It becomes a question of who draws power, who gets heard, and how communities can take part when California’s independent citizens commission starts its work. The interviews are direct but rarely airless. A conversation with Salvador Cordelioni moves through abortion, communion, Biden, Pelosi, and vaccination status while repeatedly anchoring the public-health context. A breaking-news conversation with Jackie Speier turns a retirement announcement into a look at Congress, censure, vitriol, and the strain of public service. Exit interviews with John Diaz and Phil Mateer shift the frame toward political memory. Those episodes draw on decades of Bay Area reporting, editorial judgment, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, Feinstein, and the newsroom culture around covering power up close. The show’s rhythm is plainspoken and alert. It knows the institutions, but it is not written for insiders only. The strongest moments come when guests are asked to define their own terms, explain their leverage, or account for how politics feels from inside the room. There is humor around the edges. There is also a steady belief that tax rules, district lines, endorsements, speeches, health decisions, and retirements all belong to the same civic weather system. For PlayNext listeners, it works as a smart shortcut into California political life without losing the texture of individual conversations.
Made for: For listeners who follow California politics, Bay Area power, elections, policy fights, and the personalities behind public decisions. It also suits national-politics followers who want California’s role explained through reported interviews rather than quick punditry.
What sets it apart: The show combines Chronicle access with long-form political memory, moving easily from cannabis taxes and redistricting rules to retirement announcements and newsroom exit interviews. Its strength is the grounded follow-up question: specific, local, and tied to institutional consequences.
In their own words
It’s All Political is now a part of the Fifth & Mission podcast. You can hear It's All Political on Fifth & Mission by subscribing to Fifth & Mission, the San Francisco Chronicle's flagship daily newscast. Joe Garofoli is the Chronicle’s senior political writer, covering national and state politics. He has worked at the Chronicle since 2000 and in Bay Area journalism since 1992, when he left the Milwaukee Journal. He has previously written about the intersection of tech and politics and about the politics of the cannabis industry.
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Episodes
- 1
How Can Politics Be More Inclusive?
·36m - 2
How Michael Tubbs Plans to End Poverty in California
·35m - 3
San Francisco's Archbishop on Abortion and Not Being Vaccinated
·32m - 4
Jackie Speier on Her Retirement Announcement
·25m - 5
San Francisco Housing Politics Go Statewide
·21m - 6
Youngkin's Virginia Win: Could It Happen in California?
·21m - 7
Congressional Underdogs’ Uphill Fight Against Incumbents
·28m - 8
Adam Schiff on the Crisis in Democracy
·36m - 9
A $32M Progressive Campaign to Win Texas
·35m - 10
What's Next for California GOP After Recall Drubbing?
·24m - 11
Hakeem Jeffries on Pelosi, Trump, Biggie and Tupac
·27m - 12
Fifth & Mission: Now What for Gavin Newsom?
·24m - 13
Gavin Newsom on French Laundry and Other Errors
·18m - 14
CNN’s Dana Bash on California’s Two Recalls
·30m - 15
Crime in California: Is Proposition 47 a Success?
·41m - 16
Good News for Newsom while Elder Dominates GOP Rivals
·28m - 17
Total Recall Podcast: Can Larry Elder Really Be Governor?
·23m - 18
Behind the Scenes of the Barbara Lee Documentary
·31m - 19
Rep. Barbara Lee Gets Personal to Explain Her Politics
·32m - 20
How Gavin Newsom Could Get Recalled
·23m - 21
Can a Tough on Crime ex-Republican Be California's A.G.?
·33m - 22
Can Media Star/Policy Wonk Lanhee Chen Make the Jump to Politics?
·37m - 23
Can This Republican Be California’s Next Attorney General?
·36m - 24
Rob Bonta Says He’s "The People’s Attorney" Not the "Top Cop"
·36m - 25
Are Republicans Softening on LGBTQ Issues?
·41m - 26
Dianne Feinstein "Needs to Resign"
·36m - 27
How Democrats Are Blowing Their Messaging
·37m - 28
Wealthy Donors: California Isn’t Progressive Enough
·38m - 29
How Gavin Newsom Wants to Spend Billions
·30m - 30
Jaime Harrison on Wokeness and the "Joke" of Kevin McCarthy
·28m - 31
Jennifer Carroll Foy Could Be America’s First Black Female Governor
·33m - 32
Hawaii Sen. Maize Hirono’s Immigrant Story
·35m - 33
Chronicled: A Message from Tal and Joe
·2m - 34
Is This Nancy Pelosi’s Last Term?
·30m - 35
Pramila Jayapal Grades Biden’s 100 Days
·33m - 36
Getting Cops Out of the 911 Business
·30m - 37
A Cannabis Tax Revolt is Coming in California
·31m - 38
How Rich People Hurt the Rest of Us
·36m - 39
Fifth & Mission: Polling on Recall is Good News for Newsom
·18m - 40
A Bay Area Congressman's Near-death Experience
·21m - 41
Medicare for All: The Politics Are Changing
·33m - 42
Exit Interview: John Diaz
·42m - 43
Gavin Newsom Recall: Everything You Need to Know
·29m - 44
Introducing The Doodler Podcast
·13m - 45
California Dreaming: Gavin Newsom’s Overly Sunny State of the State Speech
·27m - 46
Best of IAP: "Stars and Strife": Can America Overcome Hate?
·36m - 47
Shirley Weber, California's First Black Secretary of State
·43m - 48
Phil Matier's Exit Interview
·46m - 49
Kevin Faulconer: Moderate Enough to Challenge Newsom?
·19m - 50
Senator Alex Padilla Gets Emotional
·25m - 51
The Most Powerful Part of Joe Biden's Speech was the Silence
·23m - 52
Can Joe Biden Make "Normal" Work Again?
·18m - 53
House Impeaches Trump Again
·18m - 54
Pelosi and the House Move to Impeach
·19m - 55
Should the President be Removed?
·25m - 56
Why Georgia's Senate Races Matter to California
·20m - 57
Best of IAP: The Real Nancy Pelosi
·41m - 58
Now What? Life After @realDonaldTrump
·35m - 59
New Senator Alex Padilla
·34m - 60
Alicia Garza Says Gov. Newsom Should Appoint a Black Woman to the Senate
·38m - 61
Ro Khanna on What Progressives Want From a Biden Administration
·25m - 62
Fifth & Mission: Becerra's Departure is Newsom's Opportunity
·18m - 63
Who Will Replace Kamala Harris in the Senate?
·25m - 64
Best of IAP: Kamala Harris
·37m - 65
It's Over: Biden Wins — What's Next?
·22m - 66
Election Night Wrap: What We Know
·27m - 67
The Lincoln Project: Trump's 24/7 Nightmare
·36m - 68
What Was Prop 13 Creator Howard Jarvis Really Like?
·39m - 69
“Mr. Vice President, I’m speaking”
·22m - 70
Cyberattacks! Pandemic! Misinformation! Calming Voter Anxiety
·34m - 71
Trump Biden Debate 1: What the Hell Was That?
·21m - 72
Adam Schiff: What a Post-Trump World Looks Like
·34m - 73
"Stars and Strife": Can America Overcome Hate?
·36m - 74
Bob Woodward's Trump Book Won't Change the Race
·28m - 75
A'shanti Gholar: Trump Is "Dog-Hollering" on Race
·40m - 76
Fifth & Mission: Terror at the RNC!
·21m - 77
Weirdest Democratic National Convention Ever: A Preview
·19m - 78
Katie Hill: Sex Scandal Won't Stop My Comeback
·29m - 79
Fifth & Mission: Why Kamala Harris is Joe Biden’s Pick
·21m - 80
Can Joe Biden’s shift on immigration excite Latino voters?
·31m - 81
Black Lives Matter's Alicia Garza on the future — and Joe Biden
·27m - 82
Stacey Abrams: VP Search, Voter Suppression and Black Lives Matter
·39m - 83
Women, Declare Your Independence From Men!
·35m - 84
Potential Biden VP Pick Karen Bass
·29m - 85
What Joe Biden Has to Do to Win Young Voters
·32m - 86
How to Defund the Police
·37m - 87
Eric Swalwell’s Insider View of Impeachment
·31m - 88
Molly Ball on the Real Nancy Pelosi
·41m - 89
How Silicon Valley Will Look Different After the Pandemic
·38m - 90
Barbara Lee Wants a Racial Healing and Truth Commission
·24m - 91
The Digital Divide Is Getting Worse
·26m - 92
Michael Franti: Positivity in Politics and Life
·38m - 93
Shahid Buttar Is Challenging Nancy Pelosi From Her Left
·33m - 94
Pramila Jayapal on PPP, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden
·40m - 95
Election Day Nightmare? Dirty Tricks, Suppression, No concessions
·34m - 96
From the Tea Party to "Open the States"
·31m - 97
Will a Presidential Transition Work?
·24m - 98
Kamala Harris "Would Be Honored" to Be VP
·37m - 99
Katie Porter: We Need Real Time Stimulus Oversight
·35m - 100
How to Make Redistricting Sexy
Joe Garofoli interviews a redistricting commissioner about California's independent process for drawing political boundaries.
·34m - 101
A Cannabis Tax Revolt is Coming in California
Hidden gemJoe Garofoli opens with Mikey Steinmetz's tax revolt: the Flo Canna co-founder says he may stop paying California's cultivation tax if Governor Gavin Newsom and the Legislature do not act by July 1, 2022.
Dec 13, 2021·31m·3 clips - 102
How Michael Tubbs Plans to End Poverty in California
Hidden gemJoe Garofoli interviews former Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs about his memoir The Deeper the Roots and his plans to address poverty in California.
Dec 6, 2021·35m·2 clips - 103
San Francisco's Archbishop on Abortion and Not Being Vaccinated
It's All Political host Joe Garofoli interviews San Francisco Archbishop Salvador Cordelioni about the Supreme Court's Mississippi abortion case, which could restrict abortion after 15 weeks and affect 26 states.
Dec 1, 2021·32m·2 clips - 104
Jackie Speier on Her Retirement Announcement
Jackie Speier tells Joe Garofoli that she will leave Congress after 2022 because her husband has spent 20 years with a “weekend wife” and she wants more time with family.
Nov 16, 2021·25m·1 clip - 105
San Francisco Housing Politics Go Statewide
Nov 11, 2021·21m - 106
Youngkin's Virginia Win: Could It Happen in California?
Nov 3, 2021·21m - 107
Congressional Underdogs’ Uphill Fight Against Incumbents
Nov 1, 2021·28m - 108
Adam Schiff on the Crisis in Democracy
Oct 21, 2021·36m - 109
A $32M Progressive Campaign to Win Texas
Sep 30, 2021·35m - 110
What's Next for California GOP After Recall Drubbing?
Sep 28, 2021·24m - 111
Hakeem Jeffries on Pelosi, Trump, Biggie and Tupac
Sep 20, 2021·27m - 112
Fifth & Mission: Now What for Gavin Newsom?
Sep 15, 2021·24m - 113
Gavin Newsom on French Laundry and Other Errors
Sep 13, 2021·18m - 114
CNN’s Dana Bash on California’s Two Recalls
Sep 9, 2021·30m - 115
Crime in California: Is Proposition 47 a Success?
Sep 7, 2021·41m - 116
Good News for Newsom while Elder Dominates GOP Rivals
Sep 2, 2021·28m - 117
Total Recall Podcast: Can Larry Elder Really Be Governor?
Aug 25, 2021·23m - 118
Behind the Scenes of the Barbara Lee Documentary
Aug 17, 2021·31m - 119
Rep. Barbara Lee Gets Personal to Explain Her Politics
Aug 16, 2021·32m - 120
How Gavin Newsom Could Get Recalled
Jul 29, 2021·23m - 121
Can a Tough on Crime ex-Republican Be California's A.G.?
Jul 26, 2021·33m - 122
Can Media Star/Policy Wonk Lanhee Chen Make the Jump to Politics?
Jul 6, 2021·37m - 123
Can This Republican Be California’s Next Attorney General?
Jul 4, 2021·36m - 124
Rob Bonta Says He’s "The People’s Attorney" Not the "Top Cop"
Jul 1, 2021·36m - 125
Are Republicans Softening on LGBTQ Issues?
Jun 20, 2021·41m - 126
Dianne Feinstein "Needs to Resign"
Jun 17, 2021·36m - 127
How Democrats Are Blowing Their Messaging
Jun 9, 2021·37m - 128
How to Make Redistricting Sexy
Joe Garofoli interviews a redistricting commissioner about how California's independent citizens commission draws political maps and how the public can get involved.
May 28, 2021·34m - 129
Wealthy Donors: California Isn’t Progressive Enough
May 24, 2021·38m - 130
How Gavin Newsom Wants to Spend Billions
May 21, 2021·30m - 131
Jaime Harrison on Wokeness and the "Joke" of Kevin McCarthy
May 19, 2021·28m - 132
Jennifer Carroll Foy Could Be America’s First Black Female Governor
May 11, 2021·33m - 133
Hawaii Sen. Maize Hirono’s Immigrant Story
May 5, 2021·35m - 134
Chronicled: A Message from Tal and Joe
May 4, 2021·2m - 135
Is This Nancy Pelosi’s Last Term?
Apr 30, 2021·30m - 136
Pramila Jayapal Grades Biden’s 100 Days
Apr 28, 2021·33m - 137
Getting Cops Out of the 911 Business
Apr 26, 2021·30m - 138
How Can Politics Be More Inclusive?
Apr 20, 2021·36m - 139
How Rich People Hurt the Rest of Us
Apr 13, 2021·36m - 140
Fifth & Mission: Polling on Recall is Good News for Newsom
Mar 31, 2021·18m - 141
A Bay Area Congressman's Near-death Experience
Mar 25, 2021·21m - 142
Medicare for All: The Politics Are Changing
Mar 24, 2021·33m - 143
Exit Interview: John Diaz
Hidden gemJohn Diaz, retiring this week after 25 years as the Chronicle's editorial page editor, recalls Gray Davis telling him, "You effing pissed me off," after a financial privacy fight.
Mar 19, 2021·42m·3 clips - 144
Gavin Newsom Recall: Everything You Need to Know
Mar 17, 2021·29m - 145
Introducing The Doodler Podcast
Mar 16, 2021·13m - 146
California Dreaming: Gavin Newsom’s Overly Sunny State of the State Speech
Mar 10, 2021·27m - 147
Best of IAP: "Stars and Strife": Can America Overcome Hate?
Feb 25, 2021·36m - 148
Shirley Weber, California's First Black Secretary of State
Feb 22, 2021·43m - 149
Phil Matier's Exit Interview
Senior political writer Joe Garofoli interviews columnist Phil Matier about the early careers of Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, and Nancy Pelosi.
Feb 5, 2021·46m - 150
Kevin Faulconer: Moderate Enough to Challenge Newsom?
Feb 2, 2021·19m