Im Aufzug

Im Aufzug is a conversation show with a deliberately narrow room and a wide field of attention. The elevator premise gives each episode a recognizable frame, but the interviews are not gimmick-driven. They are careful, human, and often politically sharp. Recent conversations return again and again to the question of who gets access, who is protected too much, who is made dependent, and who has to fight for ordinary freedom. In the episode with Eva-Maria Thoms, inclusive education becomes more than a policy phrase. It becomes a question of exhausted parents, children learning independence, public transport, school systems, and who is allowed to decide a disabled child’s future. The conversation with Udo Sierck carries a longer historical charge. It remembers Sonderschule, the Krüppelgruppe Hamburg, occupations, provocation, media attention, and the risk of becoming a public symbol instead of simply being treated as an individual. Tobias Ginsburg’s episode shifts the frame toward undercover research in fanatical and far-right movements. The conversation is grave because it treats hateful ideology as something that spreads through language, stories, and everyday assumptions, not only through organized groups. Carla Hinrichs brings climate activism into contact with loneliness, civic space, bureaucracy, and civil disobedience. Her episode asks what people do when official responsibility turns into paralysis and local action is blocked before it begins. Franzi Lammers and Drees Ringert bring the same practical pressure to cultural life. Ticketing, platforms, toilets, backstage routes, communication, and wheelchair places become evidence of whether inclusion is being taken seriously. The show’s rhythm is measured. Short reactions make room for longer reflections, and the best exchanges let personal memory sit beside structural analysis. It suits listeners who want social questions handled through concrete scenes rather than polished position statements. Im Aufzug is not neutral in the empty sense. It is curious, warm, and alert to the gap between good words and material change.