Hurricane Labs InfoSec Podcast

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Security news and field stories from the Hurricane Labs team

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Hurricane Labs team members talk through security headlines and their own field work, from the federal review of Log4j to why phishing keeps working. Heather leads the conversations, and colleagues such as Tom Kopchak bring stories from red teaming a collegiate competition and from training the next wave of defenders.

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About Hurricane Labs InfoSec Podcast

The Hurricane Labs InfoSec Podcast puts a working security team's conversations on the record. Heather introduces the topics and leads the discussion, sometimes with one colleague and sometimes with three. Tom Kopchak, Hurricane Labs' Director of Technical Operations, appears across several episodes, while SOC architect Meredith and Dennis Goodlett join for others. Titles carry working labels such as 'SOC Talk' and 'Pentest Perspective', which fairly map the ground: security operations, attack simulation and the news that touches both. Current events come with background. In 'SOC Talk: Cyber Safety Review Board and the Log4j Report', Heather lays out the sequence from President Biden's executive order on the nation's cybersecurity to the Department of Homeland Security's new review board, whose first assignment was a report on Log4j. The talk then turns to disclosure, with the argument that organizations pressing charges against people who report a flaw only scare off the next reporter. The closing tip is practical: feed recent Qualys scan results into alerting, so traffic aimed at a host known not to be vulnerable stops posing as a true positive. 'SOC Talk: The Russia-Ukraine War Follow-up' picks up the Biden administration's March 21st statement and its warnings that Russian nation-state actors could target American businesses. A card game, Backdoors and Breaches, comes up as a training tool, valued because it pulls players out of their own specialty. Field stories give the show its texture. 'Pentest Perspective: Taking a Look at Social Engineering' starts from Verizon's 2021 Data Breach Investigations Report and moves to what the team has run into. One point lands hard: when staff routinely receive legitimate emails they had no reason to expect, telling real from fake gets close to impossible, and a defense built on nobody clicking a bad link is not enough. In 'SOC Talk: Red Teaming for NECCDC', Tom Kopchak and Meredith recall attacking student teams charged with keeping systems secure and business running at the Northeast Regional of the Collegiate Cyber Defense Competition. The standout moment is a red teamer walking through rooms with a badge in plain view and meeting little challenge. Once teams learned to watch visitors, that attention gave a teammate free run of the room. The two-part 'Teaching and Learning Cybersecurity: Closing the Skills Gap' widens the lens to education. Part 1 draws on Tom Kopchak's experience teaching pen testing and defense at Baldwin-Wallace and supporting competitions such as CPTC, and argues that communication counts as much as technical skill, introverts included. Part 2 turns to building training programs, borrowing lessons from teaching high school English at Akron Alternative Academy: let learners move, give them agency, never drone. Tom jokes that the series split in two because both of them like to talk too much. Episodes point toward blog posts and linked resources, and the sign-off holds steady: stay safe. For a first listen, the NECCDC episode shows the team at its most anecdotal, and the Log4j episode shows how it handles policy.

Made for: Suits a listener who works in security operations or is training toward it and wants news like Log4j discussed alongside practical talk on phishing, alert noise and red teaming. Also a good fit for someone designing security training or mentoring newcomers to the field.

What sets it apart: The voices belong to one security team, so policy news sits beside first-hand stories, like wandering into student team rooms with a red team badge in plain view. A two-part thread on teaching cybersecurity adds an education angle to the headlines.

In their own words

The Hurricane Labs InfoSec Podcast features the clashing of swords and witty banter about the latest security topics. Listen in as we discuss headlines, hacks, tech tips, Splunk stuff, and more!

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A real work email looks like phishing, and suddenly your paranoia needs a process.

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  • to hear how an obvious red teamer distracted students from their exposed password lists
  • training ideas that give distracted learners agency instead of another monotone lecture
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Log4j and vulnerability disclosurePhishing and social engineeringRed teaming collegiate cyber defense competitionsCybersecurity training and the skills gapFederal cybersecurity policyNation-state threats and the Russia-Ukraine war

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SOC Talk: Cyber Safety Review Board and the Log4j ReportAug 10, 2022

A practical discussion of Log4j, ethical disclosure, and the security work that follows a public vulnerability.

Log4j frames a focused discussion of what cybersecurity policy can actually do once a major vulnerability is public. Heather speaks with Josh Silvestro, Director of Security Operations, and Meredith Kasper, a SOC architect, about the Cyber Safety Review Board, its first report,…

Teaching and Learning Cybersecurity: Closing the Skills Gap, Part 2Jun 23, 2022

A grounded look at building cybersecurity training around better teaching, shared knowledge, and everyday practice.

Heather and Tom Kopchak frame the cybersecurity skills gap as a teaching problem as much as a hiring one. Their conversation keeps the focus on practical employee training programs, with particular attention to the soft skills that help security teams pass knowledge along: clear…

Teaching and Learning Cybersecurity: Closing the Skills Gap, Part 1Jun 6, 2022

A grounded discussion of why cybersecurity training needs communication skills as much as technical practice.

Cybersecurity education comes across here as something that has to survive contact with real work. Hurricane Labs Director of Technical Operations Tom Kopchak reflects on teaching pen testing and defense at Baldwin-Wallace, while also helping shape CPTC into a global-scale…

Pentest Perspective: Taking a Look at Social EngineeringApr 25, 2022

A practical look at why phishing is harder to manage when real workplace messages create the same uncertainty.

Social engineering lands here as a workplace behavior issue with real security fallout. Host Heather and guests Tom Kopchak, Meredith Kasper, and Dennis Goodlett frame it as nudging someone toward a desired action, then tie that idea to phishing, stolen credentials, access…

SOC Talk: Red Teaming for NECCDCApr 6, 2022

A student cyber-defense competition becomes a clear lesson in how unlocked screens and misplaced trust create openings.

Red teaming at the Northeast Regional of the Collegiate Cyber Defense Competition turns a student defense exercise into a sharp lesson about misplaced trust.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    SOC Talk: Cyber Safety Review Board and the Log4j Report

    Hidden gem

    Responsible disclosure and a vulnerability plan can stop ethical researchers from being treated like threats.

    Aug 10, 2022·16m·1 clip
  2. 2

    Teaching and Learning Cybersecurity: Closing the Skills Gap, Part 2

    Hidden gem

    Heather and Tom Kopchak say training works best when learners can “screw up” in a lab environment.

    Jun 23, 2022·24m·1 clip
  3. 3

    Teaching and Learning Cybersecurity: Closing the Skills Gap, Part 1

    Hidden gem

    Hurricane Labs' Heather talks with Tom Kopchak about part one of the teaching and learning cybersecurity series, including his spring adjunct teaching at Baldwin Wallace University and his work on CPTC.

    Jun 6, 2022·20m·1 clip
  4. 4

    Pentest Perspective: Taking a Look at Social Engineering

    Hidden gem

    Hurricane Labs' Heather, Tom Kopchak, Meredith Kasper, and Dennis Goodlett use social engineering stories to show why a "soft subject" still matters in 2021, when Verizon's Data Breach Investigations Report linked social engineering to 69% of public-administration breaches.

    Apr 25, 2022·30m·1 clip
  5. 5

    SOC Talk: Red Teaming for NECCDC

    Hidden gem

    Tom says he used Splunk as a command-and-control mechanism on nine of the 10 teams.

    Apr 6, 2022·17m·1 clip
  6. 6

    SOC Talk: The Russia-Ukraine War Follow-up

    Hidden gem

    Hurricane Labs InfoSec Podcast follows President Biden's March 21 warning about potential Russian cyber attacks with practical security advice.

    Mar 25, 2022·13m·1 clip
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    SOC Talk: VPNs and Personal Security

    Mar 16, 2022·13m
  8. 8

    Preventing, Identifying, and Mitigating DDoS Attacks

    Mar 2, 2022·14m
  9. 9

    SOC Talk: The Russia-Ukraine Crisis

    Feb 25, 2022·12m
  10. 10

    SOC Talk: Our Favorite Open Source Security Tools

    Hurricane Labs SOC staff recommend Bitwarden for password storage and uBlock Origin for reducing intrusive ads and blocking phishing or malware lists.

    Feb 17, 2022·23m·2 clips
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    SOC Talk: Malware on USB

    Feb 2, 2022·12m
  12. 12

    SOC Talk: Log4Shell

    Hurricane Labs SOC analysts describe Log4Shell as a “forever day vulnerability” that may remain in untested core applications.

    Jan 21, 2022·26m·2 clips
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    Pentesters’ Perspective: Log4Shell

    Jan 19, 2022·30m
  14. 14

    Wireless Security: Identifying Risks and Hardening Your Network

    Jan 5, 2022·28m
  15. 15

    SOC Talk: The Log4Shell Vulnerability

    Dec 14, 2021·28m
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    CISA Adds Single-Factor Authentication to list of Bad Practices

    Nov 30, 2021·32m
  17. 17

    Ads and Safeframes: Keeping your site safe(r)

    Nov 17, 2021·27m
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    Physical Security: Identifying Risks and Hardening Your Systems

    Nov 3, 2021·32m
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    Cybersecurity Chat: A Perspective on Apple‘s Bug Bounty Program

    Oct 22, 2021·12m
  20. 20

    Infosec Community: Diversity and Inclusion, Part 3

    Oct 7, 2021·20m
  21. 21

    Infosec Community: Diversity and Inclusion, Part 2

    Jul 20, 2021·22m
  22. 22

    Infosec Community: Diversity and Inclusion, Part 1

    Jun 28, 2021·30m
  23. 23

    Security, Machine Learning, and Splunk

    Jun 7, 2021·13m
  24. 24

    SOC Talk: IoT and Security

    May 24, 2021·30m
  25. 25

    Pentest Insights: Attacking networks and applications

    May 14, 2021·20m
  26. 26

    Addressing the Security Skills Gap

    Apr 28, 2021·25m
  27. 27

    Pentest Stories: Responsible vulnerability disclosure

    Apr 14, 2021·19m
  28. 28

    Designing a SOC Part 2: Successful partnerships with MSSPs

    This episode discusses how to establish an effective relationship with a Managed Security Service Provider (MSSP) for a SOC team.

    Mar 30, 2021·21m
  29. 29

    Designing a SOC: Internal or External? Part 1

    Mar 8, 2021·36m
  30. 30

    Water Plant Breach: Security Best Practice Feature

    Feb 24, 2021·14m
  31. 31

    An Inside Look at the Collegiate Penetration Testing Competition

    Feb 9, 2021·29m
  32. 32

    Creating a Vulnerability Management Policy

    Jan 28, 2021·21m
  33. 33

    FireEye & SolarWinds Follow-Up with Senior SOC Analyst Tony Robinson

    Jan 13, 2021·15m
  34. 34

    FireEye and SolarWinds Breaches Q&A with Senior SOC Analyst Tony Robinson

    Dec 14, 2020·13m
  35. 35

    Improving Security Defenses with MITRE ATT&CK: Part 2

    Sep 17, 2020·13m
  36. 36

    Improving Security Defenses with MITRE ATT&CK: Part 1

    Sep 15, 2020·14m
  37. 37

    Straight from the SOC: Team Interview with Heather Terry and Hurricane Labs

    SOC team members discuss their career paths, answer InfoSec questions, and share strategies for dealing with burnout.

    Jul 7, 2020·28m
  38. 38

    The Women in Tech-quila Episode: Raising a Toast to Women in STEM

    Jun 5, 2020·11m
  39. 39

    Reflections on the Technical Communication Summit 2020

    May 28, 2020·6m
  40. 40

    Hurricane Labs Podcast for Splunk: The "We may be broken, but we still know some stuff about Splunk" Episode

    Jun 6, 2018·24m
  41. 41

    IoT: But y tho?

    Feb 10, 2017·46m
  42. 42

    Hurricane Labs Podcast for Splunk: Third Edition

    Oct 26, 2016·42m
  43. 43

    Isn't ransomware hosted in Transylvania?

    May 13, 2016·48m
  44. 44

    Hurricane Labs Podcast for Splunk: Second Edition

    Mar 16, 2016·32m
  45. 45

    No, You Can't Close Pandora's Box

    Feb 26, 2016·26m
  46. 46

    Blurred Lines and the Murkiness of Cyberwar

    Dec 18, 2015·30m
  47. 47

    Hurricane Labs Podcast for Splunk: First Edition

    Nov 9, 2015·31m
  48. 48

    Out of Sight and Beyond Oversight

    Oct 1, 2015·58m
  49. 49

    Oh, so life really can slap you with consequences...

    The hosts discuss recent data breaches including Web.com, IRS hack, and the Ashley Madison scandal, with a focus on government employees using work emails for the site.

    Aug 28, 2015·39m
  50. 50

    "Don't Bother Trusting, Verify Everything" - Feat. Wolfgang Goerlich, Cyber Security Strategist, CBI

    The Hurricane Labs crew interviews a guest at a cybersecurity conference, discussing security topics and personal quirks.

    Jul 20, 2015·1h 5m