History N' Games

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The real myths and history hiding inside video games.

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Meghan Sullivan plays video games and then looks for the real history hidden inside them, often with a scholar or author as her guest. One conversation connects Cloud Strife's hometown of Nibelheim to Norse myth, and another follows Themistocles from hero in Herodotus to exile in the Persian Empire.

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About History N' Games

History N' Games begins with a game and ends in the ancient sources behind it. Meghan Sullivan presents the show as a celebration of what video games can teach, and her stated range is wide: Pac-Man, Super Mario Brothers, The Legend of Zelda, Assassin's Creed. One world keeps drawing her back, though. Ancient Greece. Hades and Hades II lead into Greek religion and the underworld, and Final Fantasy VII turns out to draw on both Greek and Norse myth. Guests do much of the heavy lifting. Professor Sarah Iles Johnston, a professor of religion at Ohio State University who has written on ancient Greek religion and the underworld, talks about Hades and admits she is learning to play it from her grandchildren. Author M.J. Gallagher is a returning guest who discusses his books on the Greek and Norse myths behind Final Fantasy VII, including the idea that the names, weapons and buildings around Nibelheim, Cloud Strife's hometown, were chosen by design. The episode 'Why Did People Worship Bronze Age Jerks? Barry Strauss Interview' follows Themistocles from hero in Herodotus to a man under suspicion in Thucydides, then to outlawry and finally the Persian Empire, and cites coins bearing his name as archaeological evidence. Dr. Kira Jones describes a current project on how Destiny 2, a game set in space rather than the ancient world, uses art history to build its cultures, and the talk turns to making a career outside the professor route. Past guests mentioned on air widen the range further. Professor Josiah Ober of Stanford University discussed the origins of Western democracy and whether democracy is in danger around the world, and Dr. Alyssa Sepinwall discussed the Haitian Revolution, a subject Sullivan says she had never covered before. Sullivan asks her questions as a fan. How did you get hooked? What are you working on now? What was hardest? Gallagher's answer to that last one is revealing: conflicting versions of a myth sometimes helped his argument, and the bigger problem was the sheer volume of mythology, with each thread leading to another. Not every episode has a guest. The first part of a Medea story, tied to Hades II and billed as the show's spookiest yet, is told as a tale rather than a lecture. Medea and Jason reach Circe's home and cling silently to her hearth, the gesture a murderer in ancient Greece used to ask for ritual cleansing. Bound by the laws of Theoxenia to take them in, Circe purifies them, and Medea gives her an account that leaves out the killing of her brother. The episode ends by promising a second part on other versions of the tale and on archaeological and epigraphical evidence that may clear Medea of one or two of her crimes. Sullivan says no one needs to have played Hades II to follow it. The show also runs as video, with books held up to the camera. The payoff is the backstory a game rarely spells out: where a name, a town or a sorceress actually came from.

Made for: Suits a listener who has played Hades or Final Fantasy VII and wants to know where the gods, towns and sorceresses came from. It also suits a classics enthusiast curious about how games borrow from ancient sources.

What sets it apart: It pairs a gamer's enthusiasm with guests who study the source material, such as a professor of religion on Hades or an author of books on the myths behind Final Fantasy VII. The game is a way into the ancient texts, not the end point.

In their own words

A podcast where host Meghan Sullivan plays historical fiction games and talks about the REAL stories behind gaming.

Why you'd press play

Nibelheim stops sounding like fantasy wallpaper once you follow its Norse roots.

Press play if you want

  • to hear Meghan Sullivan ask why Cloud's hometown has that particular name
  • to reconsider Greek heroes whose great deeds came with terrible choices
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Greek religion and the underworld in Hades and Hades IIGreek and Norse myth behind Final Fantasy VIIancient Greek history and figures like Themistocleshow myths differ across ancient sourcesart history in game worldbuildinginterviews with scholars and authors

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History N' Games Episode 42 (Hades II: The Terrifying Tale of Medea Part 1)Oct 31, 2024

Medea's Hades 2 role opens into an older story of ritual pollution, murder, and contested guilt.

Medea enters Hades 2 as a shadowed witch and dependable ally, giving Melanoi nightly curses while carrying the weight of vengeance, murder, and sorcery behind her.

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Episodes

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    History N' Games Episode 44 (The Secret History of Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave - Part 1)

    Nov 6, 2025·12m
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    History N' Games Episode 43 (Hades II: The Terrifying Tale of Medea Part 2)

    Nov 3, 2024·15m
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    History N' Games Episode 42 (Hades II: The Terrifying Tale of Medea Part 1)

    Hidden gem

    Medea solves Jason’s impossible trials by handing him Prometheus’s charm, a stone, and sleep for the dragon.

    Oct 31, 2024·29m·2 clips
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    History N' Games Episode 41 (Assassin's Creed: Shadows)

    Aug 3, 2024·14m
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    History N' Games Episode 40 (Hades II: Who the Heck is Hecate?)

    May 14, 2024·16m
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    History N' Games Episode 39 (Greek Myths That Inspired Final Fantasy VII)

    Hidden gem

    MJ Gallagher connects Genesis to Dionysus through outcasts, liberation, winemaking, and overcoming death.

    Mar 18, 2024·31m·2 clips
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    History N' Games Episode 38 (12 Facts About Hercules and His 12 Labors in 12 Minutes)

    Dec 24, 2023·26m
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    History N' Games Episode 37 (Dr. Kira Jones on the Hidden History of Destiny 2, Disco Elysium)

    Hidden gem

    Dr. Kira Jones explains how video-game memories help museum visitors connect ancient objects to their own lives.

    Sep 27, 2023·40m·2 clips
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    History N' Games Episode 36 (Why Did People Worship Bronze Age Jerks? Barry Strauss Interview)

    History N' Games uses Bronze Age Achilles and fifth-century BCE Themistocles to examine why Greeks revered dangerous, ambitious heroes.

    Aug 19, 2023·55m·2 clips
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    History N' Games Episode 35 (Is Democracy in Danger? A Stanford Professor Weighs In)

    Aug 4, 2023·57m
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    History N' Games Episode 34 (Okhlos: The Crazy Origins of Democracy - Part 1)

    Jul 26, 2023·23m
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    History N' Games Episode 33 (Assassin's Creed: Codename Jade)

    Jun 15, 2023·8m
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    History N' Games Episode 32 (God of War: The Real Ghost of Sparta)

    May 10, 2023·20m
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    History N' Games Episode 31 (Norse Mythology in Final Fantasy VII: M.J. Gallagher Interview)

    Hidden gem

    History N' Games host interviews author M.J.

    Mar 21, 2023·37m·2 clips
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    History N' Games Episode 30 (Hades Explained: Sarah Ils Johnston Interview)

    Host Meghan Sullivan interviews Professor Sarah Iles Johnston about the historical and mythological accuracy of the video game Hades.

    Feb 16, 2023·55m
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    History N' Games Episode 29 (Hades II: Who is Melinoe?)

    Jan 16, 2023·18m
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    History N' Games Episode 28 (Pentiment Review)

    Nov 29, 2022·10m
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    History N' Games Episode 27 (Interview with Helen Carmichael)

    Aug 6, 2022·25m
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    History N' Games Episode 26 (Fire Emblem Warriors: 3 Hopes - Part 2)

    Jul 19, 2022·15m
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    History N' Games Episode 25 (Regency Solitaire)

    May 24, 2022·8m
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    History N' Games Episode 24 (Fire Emblem Warriors: 3 Hopes - Part 1)

    Apr 26, 2022·10m
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    History N' Games Episode 23 Book Review - Thebes: The Forgotten City of Ancient Greece

    Oct 30, 2021·8m
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    History N' Games Episode 22 (Animal Crossing: The Spooky Origins of Coco & Lloyd)

    Oct 20, 2021·9m
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    History N' Games Episode 21 (Ancient Latin in Final Fantasy, Assassin's Creed: Origins)

    Oct 3, 2021·43m
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    History N' Games Episode 20 (Interview with Luke Ranieri)

    Aug 20, 2021·1h 6m
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    History N' Games Episode 19 (Hades)

    Jul 12, 2021·24m
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    History N' Games Episode 18 (Interview with Adrienne Mayor)

    Jun 5, 2021·43m
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    History N' Games Episode 17 Book Review: The Battle of Salamis

    May 16, 2021·9m
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    History N' Games Episode 16 (Immortals: Fenyx Rising - Part 2)

    Feb 9, 2021·12m
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    History N' Games Episode 15 (Immortals: Fenyx Rising - Part 1)

    Jan 13, 2021·10m
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    History N' Games Episode 14 (Yakuza - Part 1)

    Dec 5, 2020·17m
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    History N' Games Episode 13 (Ghost of Tsushima)

    Oct 16, 2020·38m
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    History N' Games Episode 12 (Interview with Max Miller)

    Host Meghan Sullivan interviews Max Miller of Tasting History, blending historical game discussion with pop culture banter.

    Sep 2, 2020·38m
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    History N' Games Episode 11 (Interview with Xavier Woods)

    Host Meghan Sullivan interviews wrestler Xavier Woods about historical fiction games and Greek mythology.

    Aug 11, 2020·21m
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    History N' Games Episode 10 (Interview with Dr. Jackson Crawford)

    Host Meghan Sullivan interviews Dr.

    Jul 10, 2020·37m
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    History N' Games Episode 9 (Fire Emblem: 3 Houses - Part 4)

    May 26, 2020·20m
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    History N' Games Episode 8 (Fire Emblem: 3 Houses - Part 3)

    Jan 8, 2020·13m
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    History N' Games Episode 7 (Fire Emblem: 3 Houses - Part 2)

    Dec 20, 2019·13m
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    History N' Games Episode 6 (Fire Emblem: 3 Houses - Part 1)

    Dec 12, 2019·20m
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    History N' Games Episode 5 (The Oregon Trail)

    Jul 26, 2019·30m
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    History N' Games Episode 4 (The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild)

    Jun 18, 2019·29m
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    History N' Games Episode 3 (Assassin's Creed Odyssey - Part 3)

    May 18, 2019·21m
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    History N' Games Episode 2 (Assassin's Creed Odyssey - Part 2)

    Apr 24, 2019·45m
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    History N' Games Episode 1 (Assassin's Creed Odyssey - Part 1)

    Mar 13, 2019·44m