Frozen Truth

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One unsolved disappearance a season, worked slowly and openly.

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Each season of Frozen Truth stays with a single missing-persons case, and Season 4 belongs to Sandra Jacobson and her five-year-old son John, last seen in Bismarck in November 1996. Scott Fuller sets the lead detective's drowning theory against details that do not fit easily, such as a driver's door found open beside the Missouri River.

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About Frozen Truth

Frozen Truth is built on a simple commitment: one unsolved disappearance per season, followed as far as the evidence allows. Season 4 is devoted to Sandra Jacobson and her five-year-old son, John. On Saturday, November 16, 1996, the two had dinner at Sandra's parents' house in Bismarck, North Dakota. Sandra said she had to go get gas. According to initial reports, that was the last time she was seen. Her gray 1990 Honda Civic turned up the next day beside the Missouri River, about 45 minutes from Center, where the family lived. Scott Fuller, who writes, edits and produces the show, recaps these facts carefully, and 'Previously on' openings help a listener keep track of a season that moves slowly. Much of the season rests on a conversation with Detective Tim Turnbull, the lead detective at the time, which runs across two episodes. Fuller asks narrow, concrete questions. Were the keys in the ignition? Was the purse on the passenger seat? Was anything gone apart from her driver's license? Turnbull concluded that Sandra and John went into the water on their own and drowned. The only trace recovered was a child-sized shoe, believed to be John's but never confirmed. Fuller does not wave that conclusion away, but he does test it. One episode looks at how uncommon drowning is as a method of suicide. Another, billed as a thought experiment rather than an update, fixes on the open driver's side door and asks what the scene itself can support. He warns that this exercise leads somewhere very dark and tells listeners they are free to skip it. Then there is the occult thread. The night she disappeared, Sandra reportedly called Bismarck police about some kind of occult activity in Center. Fuller follows that lead back to the 1974 killing of Arliss Perry and the 1980 book Michelle Remembers, while admitting he knows a rabbit hole when he sees one. The show also keeps up with its earlier cases. Update episodes return to Season 1, the 1997 disappearance of Amy Wroe Bechtel in the mountains around Lander, and to Dale Wayne Eaton, a person of interest in that case. Eaton was convicted in 2004 of the murder of Lisa Marie Kimmel, and Fuller explains why his mental capacity matters to his execution under the Eighth Amendment. Fuller says plainly that Season 4 episodes are not released on a regular schedule. Several episodes end with contact details for the North Dakota Bureau of Criminal Investigation or the Bismarck Police Department, along with an email address for tips.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants to follow one case closely for a whole season, with interviews, scene details and openly labelled theories kept clearly apart.

What sets it apart: Frozen Truth stays on one disappearance per season instead of moving between cases, and it goes back to an older case when there is a court development. Scott Fuller labels his own hypotheses as hypotheses, to the point of framing one episode as a thought experiment.

In their own words

Join Scott Fuller as he conducts on-the-ground investigations of a new mystery each season. Cases covered include the disappearances of Amy Wroe Bechtel, Ayla Reynolds, and Jodi Huisentruit.

Why you'd press play

An unlocked Civic by the Missouri puts you beside a mystery that refuses to resolve.

Press play if you want

  • to follow Scott Fuller's questions about Sandra and John's disappearance without assuming the river settled it
  • to hear the lead detective's theory alongside the details that trouble Fuller
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Season 4, Episode 4 - Satanic PanicMay 8, 2021

A vanished mother and son lead Frozen Truth into occult fears, Michelle Remembers, and the limits of coincidence.

Frozen Truth revisits the unresolved November 1996 disappearance of Sandra Jacobson and her five-year-old son, John, following Sandra's reported call to Bismarck police about occult activity in Center.

Season 4, Episode 1 - HeadwatersMar 5, 2021

Frozen Truth traces a mother and son's disappearance through the quiet clues left beside the Missouri River.

Frozen Truth opens on the hard, unsettling image of a gray 1990 Honda Civic near Centennial Beach on the Missouri River. Sandra Jacobson and her five-year-old son, John, had last been seen after dinner at Sandra's parents' house in Bismarck; by the next day, the car was there…

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Season 2 Update - 10 Years Later

    Dec 16, 2021·8m
  2. 2

    Season 4 Thought Experiment

    Frozen Truth revisits Sandra and John Jacobson's November 16, 1996 disappearance from Center, North Dakota, after their car was found beside the Missouri River.

    Nov 19, 2021·14m·1 clip
  3. 3

    Season 4, Episode 4 - Satanic Panic

    Hidden gem

    Frozen Truth Season 4, Episode 4, "Satanic Panic" centers on Sandra Jacobson and five-year-old John Jacobson, who vanished after Sandra called Bismarck Police about occult activity in Center, North Dakota, in November 1996.

    May 8, 2021·30m·2 clips
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    Season 4, Episode 3 - Dark Waters

    Hidden gem

    Frozen Truth revisits Sandra Jacobson and five-year-old John Jacobson's November disappearance beside the Missouri River in Bismarck.

    Mar 18, 2021·21m·1 clip
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    Season 4, Episode 2 - Turnbull

    Frozen Truth's Season 4, Episode 2 revisits Sandra and John Jacobson's 1996 disappearance through retired Bismarck detective Tim Turnbull's account.

    Mar 17, 2021·18m·1 clip
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    Season 4, Episode 1 - Headwaters

    Hidden gem

    Frozen Truth season 4, episode 1, "Headwaters," centers on Sandra Jacobson and her five-year-old son John, whose gray Honda Civic was found near the Missouri River in Bismarck, North Dakota with Sandra's purse and key still inside.

    Mar 5, 2021·25m·1 clip
  7. 7

    What Now?

    Feb 18, 2021·10m
  8. 8

    Judge to rule on Dale Wayne Eaton's mental capacity

    Jun 9, 2020·12m
  9. 9

    Dale Wayne Eaton Legal Developments

    May 20, 2020·11m
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    Bonus: The D.B. Cooper Episode (My good friend Darren Schaefer)

    Hidden gem

    Darren Schaefer, producer of The Cooper Vortex, gives a 40-second account of the November 24, 1971 hijacking of Northwest Orient Flight 305 and explains why his show focuses on the researchers rather than the crime.

    May 9, 2020·54m·2 clips
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    Introducing: The Dating Game Killer

    Mar 5, 2020·9m
  12. 12

    Important Frozen Truth Announcement

    Jan 31, 2020·8m
  13. 13

    Season 3, Episode 15 - Vandalism

    Jan 6, 2020·18m
  14. 14

    Season 3, Episode 14 - Steve Ridge

    Billy Pruin was found dead in his dining room on April 6, 1995, almost three months before Jodi Husentruth vanished.

    Nov 19, 2019·51m·2 clips
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    Season 3, Episode 13 - The Day Of

    Frozen Truth host Scott shares his summer-and-fall 2025 research on the Key Apartments, the Mason City complex where Jody Husentruth vanished on June 27, 1995, after a Patreon supporter urged him to make the work public.

    Nov 14, 2019·43m·2 clips
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    Season 3, Episode 12 - The Morning Walk

    Oct 6, 2019·30m
  17. 17

    Season 1, Episode 6 - The Journals

    Sep 6, 2019·44m
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    Season 1 Update - Execution Leverage

    Aug 21, 2019·7m
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    Season 3, Episode 11 – Jodi’s Network of Hope

    Mar 31, 2019·40m
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    Season 3, Episode 10 – Mason City

    Mar 23, 2019·37m
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    Season 3, Episode 9 – Data Points

    Feb 17, 2019·59m
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    Season 3, Episode 8 – Tony Jackson (Part 2)

    Feb 10, 2019·29m
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    Season 3, Episode 7 – Tony Jackson (Part 1)

    Feb 3, 2019·25m
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    Season 3, Episode 6 – The Last Time I Saw Jodi

    Jan 27, 2019·27m
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    Season 3, Episode 5 – Is It You?

    Jan 20, 2019·49m
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    Season 3, Episode 4 – MCPD

    Jan 6, 2019·26m
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    Season 3, Episode 3 – Correlation and Causation

    Dec 23, 2018·20m
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    Season 3, Episode 2 – Limelight

    Dec 9, 2018·23m
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    Season 3, Episode 1 – Trouble In River City

    Nov 25, 2018·21m
  30. 30

    Season 2 Epilogue – Blue As The Sky

    Jul 28, 2018·31m
  31. 31

    Season 2, Episode 5 – Maine DHHS

    Jul 22, 2018·45m
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    Season 2, Episode 4 – Everybody Knows

    Jul 15, 2018·18m
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    Season 2, Episode 3 – Prosecutorial Discretion

    Jul 8, 2018·25m
  34. 34

    Season 2, Episode 2 – The Microscope

    Jul 1, 2018·28m
  35. 35

    Season 2, Episode 1 – Baby Ayla

    This episode investigates the disappearance of toddler Ayla Reynolds, examining the police search and the broader societal implications of how we value different lives.

    Jun 24, 2018·35m
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    Season 1, Episode 5 – Cold Case File

    The host drives through a desolate Wyoming town while discussing the location of a crime scene in a cold case.

    Apr 1, 2018·45m
  37. 37

    Season 1, Episode 4 – Long Gone Girl

    Mar 25, 2018·29m
  38. 38

    Season 1, Episode 3 – Lander SAR

    Scott Fuller investigates the disappearance of Amy Wroe Bechtel, focusing on the remote location and lack of source material.

    Mar 18, 2018·35m
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    Season 1, Episode 2 – Junkyard Dale

    Mar 11, 2018·30m
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    Season 1, Episode 1 – God’s Backyard

    Scott Fuller introduces the Wind River Indian Reservation's geological and historical background as context for a missing persons case.

    Mar 4, 2018·28m