First Ring Daily

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Microsoft news, firm opinions and plenty of detours.

The gist

Paul Thurrott and Brad Sams talk through the tech stories of the moment, from Windows updates and Copilot announcements to Apple's M3 chips and Google's Gemini. The conversation wanders freely: a mischievous conspiracy theory, a hot air balloon ride and a stubborn audio failure all share airtime with the headlines.

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First Ring Daily runs on two things: the tech stories of the moment and the easy back-and-forth between Paul Thurrott and Brad Sams. The headlines give each conversation its spine. The pair wander off it often, and the wandering is a big part of the appeal. Microsoft is home turf. The Moment 5 update lands a few days late with a long list of small changes, and one of them argues that the bigger story is the sheer volume of Copilot updates arriving alongside it. When Android support is pulled from Windows, Brad floats a mischievous theory linking the move to Panos Panay leaving Windows and turning up at Amazon. Microsoft's expected DirectSR super resolution announcement gets a mention. So do two sharper questions: what it really means when a GPT says it was made by Microsoft, and whether Microsoft and OpenAI will eventually split. The lens reaches beyond Microsoft. Apple's M3 chips set off a puzzled debate, conducted while one of them searches online for the answer, over how many external displays a MacBook Pro can drive and how many cables that takes. Google's handling of Gemini gets a dim view. A Grammarly aside turns into a bigger idea: that AI on Windows, Android or iOS might end up as a set of small helpers working inside any app. Apple and Google changes that apply only in Europe draw a wry note, since neither of them lives there to try them. Opinions come unfiltered. A former Microsoft insider's writing on Windows version numbers draws a heated, personal response and a firm argument that ordinary users never think about versions, because Windows simply updates itself. This is the show at its bluntest, and the language gets rougher with it. Then there is life around the microphone. A hot air balloon ride starts one conversation. An apartment with thick concrete walls, where a laptop has to be carried to another room just to finish a download, starts another. Across two episodes Paul battles a computer that works everywhere except on the recording, eventually joining from a Samsung phone perched on a selfie stick while Brad notes that everything works fine for him. The frustration is real, but so is the comedy. One conversation winds down on Amiga flight games and how hard it was to land the plane. What a listener gets is a running, opinionated conversation about Microsoft and the wider tech industry from two voices who say exactly what they think.

Made for: Suits a listener who follows Microsoft, Windows and AI announcements closely and would rather hear them argued over than read off a list. Some patience for tangents and on-air equipment trouble helps.

What sets it apart: The rapport is the draw: sharp, occasionally heated takes on Microsoft and AI share space with teasing, personal detours and the pair's own gear breaking down mid-conversation.

In their own words

First Ring Daily is a podcast featuring Paul Thurrott and Brad Sams where they dive into tech news of the day with insight and humor.

Why you'd press play

Ski goggles or the future? Paul Thurrott and Brad Sams give your tech doubts a seat.

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  • to hear AI's writing help judged by the blank page, not just the grand promise
  • to weigh spatial video's appeal against a headset you might hate wearing
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First Ring Daily 1560: ARM Looks GoodFeb 28, 2024

A grounded tech conversation about thick walls, product nags, home Wi-Fi, and older hardware.

First Ring Daily 1560: ARM Looks Good is strongest when it stays with the everyday drag of connected life: concrete and brick walls, dust from electrical work, an Edge pop-up that will not quit, and a laptop download that may mean carrying the machine into another room.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    First Ring Daily 1543: Rusting Revenue

    ·8m
  2. 2

    First Ring Daily 1568: The AI Battle of 2024

    ·27m
  3. 3

    First Ring Daily 1567: And to All a Goodnight

    ·6m
  4. 4

    First Ring Daily 1566: Mixed Emotions

    ·10m
  5. 5

    First Ring Daily 1566: Mixed Emotions

    ·10m
  6. 6

    First Ring Daily 1565: Time to LLM

    ·20m
  7. 7

    First Ring Daily 1564: Watching Advice

    ·15m
  8. 8

    First Ring Daily 1563: Garbage Time

    ·11m
  9. 9

    First Ring Daily 1562: NPUs on Intel

    ·9m
  10. 10

    First Ring Daily 1560: Google's Oven

    ·12m
  11. 11

    First Ring Daily 1559: The Windows 12 AI Vision

    ·19m
  12. 12

    First Ring Daily 1558: Roadside Attractions

    ·5m
  13. 13

    First Ring Daily 1557: Windows 10 Extended

    ·20m
  14. 14

    First Ring Daily 1556: First They Took My XAML

    ·12m
  15. 15

    First Ring Daily 1555: Windows in June

    ·11m
  16. 16

    First Ring Daily 1555: Windows in June

    ·11m
  17. 17

    First Ring Daily 1540: Airrors

    ·11m
  18. 18

    First Ring Daily 1539: BMW M3

    ·10m
  19. 19

    First Ring Daily 1538: Functional Regressions

    ·12m
  20. 20

    First Ring Daily 1536: Nokia's Duty

    ·13m
  21. 21

    First Ring Daily 1535: Input Dice

    ·13m
  22. 22

    First Ring Daily 1534: App Pricing

    ·16m
  23. 23

    First Ring Daily 1533: Big Numbers

    ·14m
  24. 24

    First Ring Daily 1532: Pencil Me In

    ·9m
  25. 25

    First Ring Daily 1531: Oh They Did It

    ·14m
  26. 26

    First Ring Daily 1530: A Snap and Chat

    ·18m
  27. 27

    First Ring Daily 1529: Loss Leadership

    ·10m
  28. 28

    First Ring Daily 1528: Hardware for 12

    ·11m
  29. 29

    First Ring Daily 1527: Oh Maybe That's It

    ·9m
  30. 30

    First Ring Daily 1526: Pixel Looks Good

    ·11m
  31. 31

    First Ring Daily 1525: A Little Stabby Today

    ·12m
  32. 32

    First Ring Daily 1524: Back in Court

    ·14m
  33. 33

    First Ring Daily 1523: The Monitors of Doom

    ·10m
  34. 34

    First Ring Daily 1521: Sony's Out

    ·11m
  35. 35

    First Ring Daily 1520: Trouble for Amazon

    ·19m
  36. 36

    First Ring Daily 1519: Islands of Change

    ·13m
  37. 37

    First Ring Daily 1518: Give Me Fuel, Give Me Fire

    ·14m
  38. 38

    First Ring Daily 1516: A Surface Event Tour

    ·7m
  39. 39

    First Ring Daily 1515: OCR the AI

    ·7m
  40. 40

    First Ring Daily 1514: EU is Not Happy

    ·9m
  41. 41

    First Ring Daily 1513: Apple Event Hangover

    ·13m
  42. 42

    First Ring Daily 1512: USB-Sea

    ·9m
  43. 43

    First Ring Daily 1511: Google's Bad Argument

    ·18m
  44. 44

    First Ring Daily 1509: Thursday Playbacks

    ·16m
  45. 45

    First Ring Daily 1508: T-Day

    ·13m
  46. 46

    First Ring Daily 1507: Act Small

    ·10m
  47. 47

    First Ring Daily 1505: Teams and Mac Split

    ·7m
  48. 48

    First Ring Daily 1504: Apple's Ahead

    ·13m
  49. 49

    First Ring Daily 1503: Ahead of AI

    ·14m
  50. 50

    First Ring Daily 1502: Technical NAS

    ·10m
  51. 51

    First Ring Daily 1501: Back in My Table

    ·9m
  52. 52

    First Ring Daily 1587: Should Xbox Do It

    ·13m
  53. 53

    First Ring Daily 1586: Communication Station

    ·10m
  54. 54

    First Ring Daily 1585: Apple's Vision

    ·15m
  55. 55

    First Ring Daily 1564: Goodbye Android

    ·10m
  56. 56

    First Ring Daily 1563: From Up High

    ·11m
  57. 57

    First Ring Daily 1562: The Moment Has Arrived

    ·15m
  58. 58

    First Ring Daily 1561: Miss Green

    ·5m
  59. 59

    First Ring Daily 1560: ARM Looks Good

    ·14m
  60. 60

    First Ring Daily 1599: Accepting It

    ·16m
  61. 61

    First Ring Daily 1598: Land the Audio

    ·11m
  62. 62

    First Ring Daily 1597: Surface Peaks

    ·13m
  63. 63

    First Ring Daily 1596: Apple Didn't Win

    ·10m
  64. 64

    First Ring Daily 1595: Gallons of Mayonnaise

    ·11m
  65. 65

    First Ring Daily 1594: Xbox Has Spoken

    ·17m
  66. 66

    First Ring Daily 1593: Worse than Cookies

    ·13m
  67. 67

    First Ring Daily 1592: Healthy Migration

    ·11m
  68. 68

    First Ring Daily 1591: Tar Pit Touchdowns

    ·12m
  69. 69

    First Ring Daily 1590: Next Box

    ·12m
  70. 70

    First Ring Daily 1589: Good Margins

    ·8m
  71. 71

    First Ring Daily 1588: A New Metric

    ·12m
  72. 72

    First Ring Daily 1554: Show Me the Desktop

    ·12m
  73. 73

    First Ring Daily 1553: They Pull You Back In

    ·12m
  74. 74

    First Ring Daily 1552: Q Notes

    ·6m
  75. 75

    First Ring Daily 1551: A Good Encounter

    ·8m
  76. 76

    First Ring Daily 1550: That Makes Sonos

    ·11m
  77. 77

    First Ring Daily 1549: Full of AI

    ·14m
  78. 78

    First Ring Daily 1548: Schrodinger's AI

    ·12m
  79. 79

    First Ring Daily 1547: This OpenAI News is Probably Outdated

    ·12m
  80. 80

    First Ring Daily 1546: Updates of Stuff

    ·10m
  81. 81

    First Ring Daily 1546: It's In the Book

    ·8m
  82. 82

    First Ring Daily 1545: Pixel Bumps

    ·9m
  83. 83

    First Ring Daily 1544: The Monday iPhone

    ·8m
  84. 84

    First Ring Daily 1542: Swiftly Raised

    ·7m
  85. 85

    First Ring Daily 1541: A Cutler Above

    ·15m
  86. 86

    First Ring Daily 1584: New Setup, Same Setup

    ·13m
  87. 87

    First Ring Daily 1582: Three Trillion

    ·11m
  88. 88

    First Ring Daily 1581: Arc-nemesis

    ·14m
  89. 89

    First Ring Daily 1581: Finding AI Functionality

    ·17m
  90. 90

    First Ring Daily 1580: A Matter of Email

    ·15m
  91. 91

    First Ring Daily 1578: Recommended Content

    ·12m
  92. 92

    First Ring Daily 1577: Over 700 Trackers in Outlook

    ·11m
  93. 93

    First Ring Daily 1576: Goodbye Bing, Hello Copilot Pro

    ·22m
  94. 94

    First Ring Daily 1575: ARM the Discount

    ·10m
  95. 95

    First Ring Daily 1574: Windows or AI – Who Wins?

    ·23m
  96. 96

    First Ring Daily 1573: If Only it Survived

    ·17m
  97. 97

    First Ring Daily 1572: CES Things

    ·11m
  98. 98

    First Ring Daily 1571: LAN is the Password

    ·21m
  99. 99

    First Ring Daily 1570: It’s All New

    ·13m
  100. 100

    First Ring Daily 1569: It's 2024

    ·13m
  101. 101

    First Ring Daily 1564: Goodbye Android

    Mar 6, 2024·10m
  102. 102

    First Ring Daily 1563: From Up High

    Mar 5, 2024·11m
  103. 103

    First Ring Daily 1562: The Moment Has Arrived

    Mar 1, 2024·15m
  104. 104

    First Ring Daily 1561: Miss Green

    Mar 1, 2024·5m
  105. 105

    First Ring Daily 1560: ARM Looks Good

    Hidden gem

    Brad and Paul spend much of the episode on Windows annoyances, from Microsoft Edge's "preview Microsoft edge releases early" pop-up to Bluetooth range problems in a house with thick concrete walls.

    Feb 28, 2024·14m
  106. 106

    First Ring Daily 1599: Accepting It

    Hidden gem
    Feb 27, 2024·16m
  107. 107

    First Ring Daily 1598: Land the Audio

    Feb 26, 2024·11m
  108. 108

    First Ring Daily 1597: Surface Peaks

    Feb 23, 2024·13m
  109. 109

    First Ring Daily 1596: Apple Didn't Win

    Feb 22, 2024·10m
  110. 110

    First Ring Daily 1595: Gallons of Mayonnaise

    Feb 21, 2024·11m
  111. 111

    First Ring Daily 1594: Xbox Has Spoken

    Feb 16, 2024·17m
  112. 112

    First Ring Daily 1593: Worse than Cookies

    Feb 15, 2024·13m
  113. 113

    First Ring Daily 1592: Healthy Migration

    Feb 14, 2024·11m
  114. 114

    First Ring Daily 1591: Tar Pit Touchdowns

    Feb 12, 2024·12m
  115. 115

    First Ring Daily 1590: Next Box

    Feb 9, 2024·12m
  116. 116

    First Ring Daily 1589: Good Margins

    Feb 8, 2024·8m
  117. 117

    First Ring Daily 1588: A New Metric

    Feb 7, 2024·12m
  118. 118

    First Ring Daily 1587: Should Xbox Do It

    Feb 6, 2024·13m
  119. 119

    First Ring Daily 1586: Communication Station

    Feb 5, 2024·10m
  120. 120

    First Ring Daily 1585: Apple's Vision

    First Ring Daily 1585 examines Apple Vision Pro, a $3,500 headset that the hosts place between virtual reality and augmented reality.

    Feb 2, 2024·15m·1 clip
  121. 121

    First Ring Daily 1584: New Setup, Same Setup

    First Ring Daily examines Windows 11's new installer visuals and the long-running architecture inherited from Windows Vista and earlier NT-era systems.

    Jan 29, 2024·13m·1 clip
  122. 122

    First Ring Daily 1582: Three Trillion

    Jan 25, 2024·11m
  123. 123

    First Ring Daily 1581: Arc-nemesis

    First Ring Daily 1581 examines Arc's Windows browser beta after a wait-list release in December and several days of testing.

    Jan 24, 2024·14m·1 clip
  124. 124

    First Ring Daily 1581: Finding AI Functionality

    First Ring Daily 1581 examines Microsoft Copilot Pro through image generation, Word assistance, summarization, and the unresolved question of consumer-tool licensing for professional work.

    Jan 23, 2024·17m·1 clip
  125. 125

    First Ring Daily 1580: A Matter of Email

    Jan 22, 2024·15m
  126. 126

    First Ring Daily 1578: Recommended Content

    Jan 18, 2024·12m
  127. 127

    First Ring Daily 1577: Over 700 Trackers in Outlook

    Jan 17, 2024·11m
  128. 128

    First Ring Daily 1576: Goodbye Bing, Hello Copilot Pro

    Microsoft announced Copilot Pro the day before this recording, a $20-a-month add-on for personal Microsoft 365 accounts, and the hosts note a family pack would run five times that.

    Jan 16, 2024·22m·2 clips
  129. 129

    First Ring Daily 1575: ARM the Discount

    Jan 15, 2024·10m
  130. 130

    First Ring Daily 1574: Windows or AI – Who Wins?

    The hosts open by switching their recording call from Zoom to Skype after Zoom froze for 15-20 seconds whenever Paul hung up.

    Jan 12, 2024·23m·2 clips
  131. 131

    First Ring Daily 1573: If Only it Survived

    Jan 11, 2024·17m
  132. 132

    First Ring Daily 1572: CES Things

    Jan 10, 2024·11m
  133. 133

    First Ring Daily 1571: LAN is the Password

    Paul Thurrott and Brad Sams discuss their camera and audio setup issues before diving into tech news.

    Jan 9, 2024·21m
  134. 134

    First Ring Daily 1570: It’s All New

    Jan 8, 2024·13m
  135. 135

    First Ring Daily 1569: It's 2024

    Jan 2, 2024·13m
  136. 136

    First Ring Daily 1568: The AI Battle of 2024

    Paul Thurrott and Brad Sams discuss replacing a failed wireless mesh system and share tech news with humor.

    Dec 28, 2023·27m
  137. 137

    First Ring Daily 1567: And to All a Goodnight

    Dec 22, 2023·6m
  138. 138

    First Ring Daily 1566: Mixed Emotions

    Dec 21, 2023·10m
  139. 139

    First Ring Daily 1566: Mixed Emotions

    Dec 21, 2023·10m
  140. 140

    First Ring Daily 1565: Time to LLM

    Paul Thurrott and Brad Sams discuss Microsoft's new Windows AI Studio, its installation process, and initial impressions.

    Dec 20, 2023·20m
  141. 141

    First Ring Daily 1564: Watching Advice

    Dec 19, 2023·15m
  142. 142

    First Ring Daily 1563: Garbage Time

    Dec 18, 2023·11m
  143. 143

    First Ring Daily 1562: NPUs on Intel

    Dec 15, 2023·9m
  144. 144

    First Ring Daily 1560: Google's Oven

    Dec 11, 2023·12m
  145. 145

    First Ring Daily 1559: The Windows 12 AI Vision

    Dec 8, 2023·19m
  146. 146

    First Ring Daily 1558: Roadside Attractions

    Dec 7, 2023·5m
  147. 147

    First Ring Daily 1557: Windows 10 Extended

    Dec 6, 2023·20m
  148. 148

    First Ring Daily 1556: First They Took My XAML

    Dec 5, 2023·12m
  149. 149

    First Ring Daily 1555: Windows in June

    Dec 4, 2023·11m
  150. 150

    First Ring Daily 1555: Windows in June

    Dec 4, 2023·11m