Demystifying Genetics

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Genetic counsellors talk shop, from single genes to national screening.

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Genetic counsellor Matt Burgess interviews fellow counsellors, educators and patients about how hereditary conditions are tested for, counselled and lived with. Conversations range from embryo testing in IVF and genomic newborn screening to hereditary cancer genes, sickle cell disease, and how new counsellors find their footing in the profession.

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About Demystifying Genetics

Demystifying Genetics is an interview show in which a genetic counsellor questions the people around his field: colleagues, educators, and patients living with hereditary conditions. Matt Burgess hosts, and since many of his guests share his profession, the conversations are comfortable getting technical. Erica Pai, a Canadian genetic counsellor at a large IVF company, is a good example. She explains how linkage analysis uses parents' DNA to work out which copy of a gene carries a variant, so that copy can be tracked into embryos. Hereditary cancer is another thread. With Sara Pirzadeh - Miller the gene is CDH1, linked to hereditary diffuse gastric cancer, where a preventive gastrectomy can mean trading one serious problem for another. She also describes families who share a genotype yet see very different outcomes. Dan Shockley brings the patient's view. A Navy veteran, he was diagnosed at 51 with attenuated familial adenomatous polyposis after a colonoscopy found a hundred polyps, and he talks openly about the surgery that left him with a permanent ostomy. The host pauses to have him explain the term for anyone unfamiliar with it, and Dan repeats his mantra: 'always forge ahead with a purpose.' Two episode titles name a guest's favourite gene, APC for Dan and CDH1 for Sara. Screening policy gets its turn through Kirsten Boggs, a senior genetic counsellor and co-founder of GCR Connect, who talks about counsellor-led research and the lessons of Mackenzie’s Mission, Australia's national reproductive carrier screening program. She calls a shift to genomic newborn screening inevitable on technology and cost grounds, concedes the view may be controversial, and asks whether a baby's whole-genome data should be stored, and for how long. Barbara Harrison, an assistant professor and genetic counsellor at Howard University, talks about counselling for conditions that affect proportionally more Black people: APOL1-related kidney disease and sickle cell disease. She traces part of her interest to childhood visits with two cousins in Baltimore who had sickle cell, and to watching how it shaped their family. The profession itself is a subject here, too. Rachel Mills, a North Carolina genetic counsellor whose PhD examined what helps junior counsellors become confident, connected professionals, talks about mentorship, conferences and belonging. In that conversation the host raises a certification gap in Australia and New Zealand, where graduates working in policy, research or academia cannot sit the board exam. Sara Pirzadeh - Miller's early graduate research, on the values that guide genetic counselling practice, belongs to the same strand. Where to begin depends on what a listener wants: Dan Shockley for a patient's story, Erica Pai for the mechanics of embryo testing, Kirsten Boggs for screening policy.

Made for: Suits a listener training for or working in genetic counselling who wants to hear colleagues compare notes. It also suits anyone facing a hereditary diagnosis, carrier screening or embryo testing who wants to hear how counsellors reason through those decisions.

What sets it apart: The interviewer is himself a genetic counsellor, so conversations with colleagues get into working detail such as linkage analysis and certification rules. Patient guests like Dan Shockley keep the lived reality of a diagnosis in view.

In their own words

This is a podcast series called Demystifying Genetics where I, Dr Matt Burgess, Genetic Counsellor interview other genetic counsellors, people working in genetics or people affected by genetic conditions. We chat about human clinical genetics, genetic counselling, ethics, pyschosocial issues and more. To contact me, please reach out at matt at insightgenomica dot au.

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Genetic counsellor training, mentorship and professional identityHereditary cancer genes such as APC and CDH1Preimplantation genetic testing and IVFPopulation and newborn genomic screeningEquity in genomic medicineSickle cell disease and APOL1-related kidney diseaseLiving with a genetic diagnosisEthics of genetic testing

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Becoming a Genetic Counselor: Identity, Mentorship, and Belonging. Demystifying Genetics with Rachel Mills.Dec 15, 2025

A thoughtful conversation on how genetic counsellors build identity, belonging, and a profession still finding its shape.

Professional identity is the anchor of this conversation with Dr. Rachel Mills, a North Carolina genetic counsellor whose PhD examined how junior genetic counsellors become more confident and connected in their work.

From Navy Decks to Genetic Docs: One Man’s AFAP Journey. Demystifying Genetics with Dan Shockley (Favourite gene: APC).Dec 8, 2025

A grounded patient story about genetic diagnosis, permanent ostomy, and learning to adapt.

Dan Drydock Shockley's story turns on a routine colonoscopy at 50, undertaken despite no symptoms or family history, that found 100 polyps across the colon, rectum, and anus, including one causing an 80% blockage in the ascending colon.

From Values to Gene Therapy: Leading the Future of Genetic Counselling. Demystifying Genetics with Sara Pirzadeh - Miller. (Favourite gene: CDH1)Dec 1, 2025

A thoughtful, grounded review of genetic counselling, CDH1 risk, and the difficult choices that sit between evidence and lived experience.

Genetic counselling sits at the point where inherited risk stops being abstract and becomes a choice someone has to carry. Genetic counsellor Sarah Pizade-Miller reflects on early graduate school research into the values that shape the field, giving the episode a thoughtful…

Genetic Counsellors Take the Lead: From Mackenzie’s Mission to National Genomics. Demystifying Genetics with Kirsten BoggsNov 24, 2025

A grounded conversation about genetic counsellor-led research and the questions shaping genomic screening in Australia.

Genetic counselling comes through as a practical part of genomic medicine, not just a supporting service around it. Kirsten Boggs discusses her work with GCR Connect, the platform she co-founded to bring genetic counsellors across Australia together, alongside her role with…

PGT Unpacked: Ethics, Linkage and Hard Choices in Reproductive Genetics. Demystifying Genetics with Erica PaiNov 17, 2025

A careful, grounded look at how embryo testing turns genetic linkage into a reproductive decision.

Pre-implantation genetic testing is treated here as both a technical workflow and a deeply personal choice: a way for people to reduce the risk of passing on inherited conditions before pregnancy begins.

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    Becoming a Genetic Counselor: Identity, Mentorship, and Belonging. Demystifying Genetics with Rachel Mills.

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess speaks with Dr.

    Dec 15, 2025·54m·3 clips
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    From Navy Decks to Genetic Docs: One Man’s AFAP Journey. Demystifying Genetics with Dan Shockley (Favourite gene: APC).

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess' Demystifying Genetics episode follows Navy veteran Dan Drydock Shockley, who was diagnosed at 51 with attenuated familial adenomatous polyposis after a routine colonoscopy found 100 polyps and an 80% blockage.

    Dec 8, 2025·45m·4 clips
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    From Values to Gene Therapy: Leading the Future of Genetic Counselling. Demystifying Genetics with Sara Pirzadeh - Miller. (Favourite gene: CDH1)

    Hidden gem

    Demystifying Genetics with Matt Burgess and Sarah Pizade-Miller ties a 20-year-old values study to CDH1, hereditary diffuse gastric cancer, and counseling decisions for high-risk families.

    Dec 1, 2025·48m·3 clips
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    Genetic Counsellors Take the Lead: From Mackenzie’s Mission to National Genomics. Demystifying Genetics with Kirsten Boggs

    Hidden gem

    Kirsten Boggs says GCR Connect grew from informal Zoom chats into a 130-plus-member network for genetic counsellors doing research across Australasia.

    Nov 24, 2025·50m·5 clips
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    PGT Unpacked: Ethics, Linkage and Hard Choices in Reproductive Genetics. Demystifying Genetics with Erica Pai

    Hidden gem

    Demystifying Genetics turns to pre-implantation genetic testing with Erica Pye, a Canadian genetic counsellor who works in IVF and helps families decide before pregnancy begins.

    Nov 17, 2025·54m·3 clips
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    When Genes Meet Justice: Kidney Risk, Gene Therapy, and Community Care. Demystifying Genetics with Barbara Harrison

    Hidden gem

    Demystifying Genetics host Matt Burgess interviews Howard University genetic counsellor Barbara Harrison about ApoL1-related kidney disease, sickle cell disease, and inequities in genomic care.

    Nov 10, 2025·57m·4 clips
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    When Genes Guide Care: BRCA, Rapid Testing and Real Choices. Demystifying Genetics with Mary-Anne Young (Favourite Genes BRCA1&2).

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    Dr.

    Nov 3, 2025·46m·3 clips
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    When Genes Meet Heart: Inside Cardiac Genomics. Demystifying Genetics with Jodie Ingles (Favourite Gene: MYH7)

    Hidden gem

    Dr Jodie Ingalls, who leads cardiac genomics at the Garvin Institute of Medical Research, explains how inherited heart conditions are identified and managed after sudden cardiac events.

    Oct 27, 2025·45m·3 clips
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    Huntington’s Unlocked: Ethics, Exclusion Testing & New Gene Therapies. Demystifying Genetics with Sandra Peacock (Favourite Gene: HTT).

    Hidden gem

    Demystifying Genetics host Matt, a genetic counsellor in Melbourne, speaks with Sandra Peacock, a Houston genetic counsellor, about Huntington’s disease, exclusion testing, gene therapy, laboratory gatekeeping, and genetic-counselling practice.

    Oct 20, 2025·44m·3 clips
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    From Mistake to Mastery: A Genetic Counsellor’s Story. Demystifying Genetics with Rachel Vanneste (Favourite gene SHH)

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews Canadian genetic counsellor Rachel Van Est about an early confidentiality mistake, counselling in French, and career changes across clinical, sales, laboratory, and research roles.

    Oct 13, 2025·48m·3 clips
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    Telehealth, Mainstreaming & the Modern Counsellor. Demystifying Genetics with Dawn Allain. (Favourite gene - GNAS)

    Hidden gem

    Dawn Allen of Ohio State University describes how genetic counseling shifted from limited rural telehealth to a model in which almost all 20 faculty counselors provide roughly three quarters of their services remotely.

    Oct 6, 2025·48m·3 clips
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    Reinventing Clinical Trials: How Sano Genetics Puts Patients First

    Hidden gem

    Patrick Shaw, scientist and CEO of Sano Genetics, explains how his company connects genetic data and patient participation with precision-medicine research.

    Sep 29, 2025·50m·3 clips
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    Hidden Codes: Hereditary Melanoma, CDKN2A and the Families Behind the Genes

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    Dr.

    Sep 22, 2025·45m·3 clips
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    Who Is a Genetic Counsellor? Redefining Identity in Genomics

    Hidden gem

    Demystifying Genetics host Matt interviews American genetic counsellor Dr.

    Sep 15, 2025·57m·4 clips
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    Jewish Ancestry & Genetics: Carrier Screening, Community and Choice

    Geerden Schwartz of Genetics explains how carrier screening is offered to anyone with Jewish ancestry, including people with one Jewish grandparent and couples with mixed ancestry.

    Sep 8, 2025·40m·2 clips
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    From Clinic to TikTok: Dena DNA’s Journey Demystifying Genetics

    Hidden gem

    Dina Goldberg, known online as Dina DNA, describes moving from board-certified genetic counseling and clinical work at UCSF into public education through media and social platforms.

    Sep 1, 2025·59m·4 clips
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    Living with CMT: Finding Answers in the SORD Gene

    Hidden gem

    Daryl Beach tells genetic counsellor Matt Burgess how childhood clumsiness, sore legs from jogging in his early 30s, and a physical diagnosis eventually led to a SORD gene diagnosis roughly 20 years later.

    Aug 25, 2025·28m·2 clips
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    ‘Powerhouse’ Lives: A Genetic Counselor’s Journey Through Mitochondrial Disease (GUK1)

    Hidden gem

    Devin Schumann, a genetic counsellor with mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome caused by changes in GUK1, describes how research exome analysis and functional studies finally identified his family’s genetic explanation.

    Aug 18, 2025·1h 4m·5 clips
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    Unraveling Charcot-Marie-Tooth (CMT): A Journey Through Generations. Demystifying Genetics and CMT1A with Peter Critchley

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews Peter Critchley about Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A, a hereditary peripheral neuropathy that can slow nerve signals to one-fifth to one-tenth of normal speed.

    Aug 12, 2025·26m·1 clip
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    Genetic Ventures: From Counseling to Entrepreneurship. Demystifying genetics with Erica Ramos (Favourite gene - HFE Hereditary Hemochromatosis)

    Hidden gem

    Erika Ramos explains why HFE and hereditary hemochromatosis became her favorite genetics example after ACMG guidance shifted from discouraging testing to including C282I homozygosity in secondary findings.

    Jul 14, 2025·53m·3 clips
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    From Rural Roots to Genetic Advocate. Demystifying Genetics with Kate Wilson.

    Hidden gem

    Matt interviews fellow genetic counsellor Kate Wilson, host of All Access DNA, about making genetics understandable to a general audience.

    Jun 2, 2025·53m·3 clips
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    Inside Genetic Counselling: Navigating Direct-to-Consumer Testing and Research. Demystifying Genetics with Joshua Nolan

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess and Joshua Nolan discuss men in genetic counselling, where Burgess cites males as about 5% of the workforce.

    May 26, 2025·54m·3 clips
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    Pioneering Genetics in Ghana: A Groundbreaking Journey. Demystifying Genetics with Ahmed-Sherrif Kanvela Yussif

    Hidden gem

    Ahmed Sharif Kenvelo Youssef describes becoming one of Ghana's first genetic counsellors while the Allied Health Professions Council of Ghana establishes regulation for the profession.

    May 20, 2025·41m·2 clips
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    Genetic Counseling Unwrapped: A Deep Dive. Demystifying Genetics with Jaime Jessen-Brown

    Hidden gem

    Matt, host of Demystifying Genetics, interviews Toronto genetic counsellor Jamie Jessen-Brown about how the profession now spans clinical care, somatic tumor testing, oncology, and medical science liaison work.

    May 12, 2025·53m·3 clips
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    Unraveling Polygenic Risk Scores (PRS) in Genetics. Demystifying Genetics with Kylie Morgan

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess and Kylie Morgan compare genetic counselling in the NHS and Australia, focusing on national guidelines, state funding, and unequal access to testing.

    May 5, 2025·46m·3 clips
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    How Genetic Counseling Is Evolving Beyond Hospital Walls. Demystifying Genetics with Lauren Giannetti Sferrazza

    Hidden gem

    Lauren Giannetti-Safaza, a New Jersey genetic counsellor, explains how moving from four and a half years of fertility-center patient care into industry expanded her potential reach beyond individual appointments.

    Apr 21, 2025·1h 1m·4 clips
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    Beyond Genes: Can We Truly Measure the Impact of Genetic Counselling? Demystifying Genetics with Marion McAllister

    Hidden gem

    Dr.

    Apr 14, 2025·44m·3 clips
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    What Happens When You Become Your Own Boss in Genetic Counseling? Demystifying Genetics with Scott Weissman.

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    On Demystifying Genetics, Dr.

    Apr 8, 2025·48m·3 clips
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    Resilience After Redundancy: A Genetic Counsellor’s Journey; Demystifying Genetics with Angela Arnold Ross

    Hidden gem

    Matt and Angela Arnold-Ross, Australian genetic counsellors living in New Jersey, discuss being laid off after long clinical careers and rebuilding their work lives.

    Apr 1, 2025·55m·3 clips
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    Inherited Hearts and Healing Minds: A Cardiac GC’s Journey. Demystifying Genetics with Laura Yeates

    Hidden gem

    Demystifying Genetics host Matt Burgess interviews Sydney-based cardiac genetic counsellor Dr Laura Yates about certification, inherited heart disease, and genetic counsellor wellbeing.

    Mar 24, 2025·58m·4 clips
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    From Diagnosis to Advocacy: Sarah Powell on Inherited Cancer and BRCA1. Demystifying Genetics with Sarah Powell

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews Sarah Powell, CEO of Inherited Cancers Australia, about her triple-negative breast-cancer diagnosis at 29 and subsequent BRCA1 result.

    Mar 17, 2025·51m·3 clips
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    Beyond BRCA: Bringing Polygenic Risk into Primary Care. Demystifying Genetics with Sibel Saya

    Hidden gem

    Dr.

    Mar 10, 2025·44m·3 clips
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    Decoding Risk: Understanding Polygenic Risk Scores in Modern Medicine. Demystifying Genetics with Erica Spaeth

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess and Dr Erica Spaeth explain polygenic risk scores through a bag-of-rice analogy, contrasting one barely visible SNP with the combined effect of many small genetic differences.

    Mar 5, 2025·50m·3 clips
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    Beyond the Science: The Emotional Work of Genetic Counselling. Demystifying Genetics with Gillian Hooker

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews Gillian Hooker about the emotional work, education, technology, and policy challenges surrounding genetic counselling.

    Feb 25, 2025·46m·3 clips
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    Living in the Shadow of Huntington Disease & the HTT gene. Demystifying Genetics with Kathy Langley

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews Cathy Langley, whose father and grandmother had Huntington disease, about the condition’s fatal course and 50% inheritance risk for children of an affected parent.

    Feb 18, 2025·37m·2 clips
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    Podcasting, Patients, and the Power of Story in Genetics. Demystifying Genetics with Kira Dineen

    Kira Dineen tells Matt Burgess how DNA Today began 12 years ago while she was in high school and later reached the top 1% of podcasts globally.

    Feb 10, 2025·48m·3 clips
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    MTHFR and Misunderstandings: Counselling Through Confusion. Demystifying Genetics with Sarah Long

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews genetic counsellor and PhD researcher Sarah Long about reproductive genetic counselling, non-invasive prenatal testing, and the expanding use of whole-exome sequencing.

    Feb 3, 2025·37m·2 clips
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    ClinVar, Controversy, and the Case for Change at Myriad Genetics. Demystifying Genetics with Susan Manley

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews Susan Manley, Myriad’s Senior Vice President of Medical Services, about the BRCA1 and BRCA2 patent dispute and Myriad’s later ClinVar contributions.

    Oct 18, 2023·38m·2 clips
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    Pedigrees, Pronouns, and Progress: Shaping Inclusive Genetics Tools with TrakGene. Demystifying Genetics with Kathryn van Diemen

    Hidden gem

    Catherine Van Diemen describes her path from a genetics degree and graduate diploma in genetic counselling to data management and her current TrackGene roles.

    Sep 27, 2023·34m·2 clips
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    More Than a Degree: Creating Space for Growth in Genetic Counselling Education. Demystifying Genetics with Alison McEwen

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews genetic counsellor, academic, and Human Genetic Society of Australasia president Dr Alison McEwen about building genetic counselling education at the University of Technology Sydney.

    Sep 6, 2023·39m·2 clips
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    At the Crossroads of Discovery: Genetics, Ethics, and the Story of Chopra-Amiel-Gordon syndrome (ANKRD17 gene).Demystifying Genetics with Maya Chopra

    Hidden gem

    Dr.

    Aug 22, 2023·40m·2 clips
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    Where Law Meets the Genome: Genetic Counselling, Human Rights, and Public Health Ethics. Demystifying Genetics with Julia Mansour

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess talks with Julia Mansour, a genetic counsellor admitted to the Supreme Court of the ACT, about testing minors under the Human Genetic Society of Australasia position statement, which she co-authored.

    Aug 8, 2023·35m·2 clips
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    From Chromosomes to Chapters: The Journey of a Genetic Educator. Demystifying Genetics with Janice Berliner

    Hidden gem

    Janice Berliner, a board-certified genetic counsellor and Bay Path University program director, describes moving from prenatal counseling into education, writing, and fiction.

    Jul 16, 2023·39m·2 clips
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    Alfie, Academia, and the Art of Genetic Counseling Research. Demystifying Genetics with Laura Forrest

    Hidden gem

    Demystifying Genetics host Matt Burgess interviews Laura Forrest about her PhD on familial communication, mixed-methods research, and measuring outcomes in genetic counseling.

    Jul 6, 2023·38m·2 clips
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    Demystifying Genetics with Pilar Magoulas

    Hidden gem

    Pilar Magoulas describes leading a division of about 45 genetic counsellors while building committees, monthly journal clubs, retreats, and a promotion ladder.

    Aug 27, 2020·49m·3 clips
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    Demystifying Genetics with Elly Lynch

    Hidden gem

    Ellie Lynch describes working remotely as a senior genetic counsellor during Melbourne’s second COVID-19 lockdown, including telehealth consultations for Huntington disease predictive testing.

    Aug 13, 2020·41m·3 clips
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    Demystifying Genetics for Hereditary Breast and Ovarian Cancer Week

    Hidden gem

    Matt interviews certified genetic counselor Ellen about BRCA testing, My Gene Counsel, and Hereditary Breast and Ovarian Cancer Awareness Week.

    Oct 2, 2018·1h 17m·5 clips
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    Demystifying Genetics with Mike Field

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews clinical geneticist Michael Field about Fragile X, X-linked intellectual disability, and genetic diagnosis for families with learning problems.

    Sep 19, 2018·40m·2 clips
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    Demystifying Genetics with John Conaghan

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews Newcastle social worker John Conaghan about Huntington disease, an inherited neurological condition involving cognitive impairment, involuntary movements, mobility loss, and personality change.

    Aug 30, 2018·54m·5 clips
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    Demystifying Genetics with Martin Delatycki

    Hidden gem

    Matt Burgess interviews clinical geneticist Martin Delatycki about ataxia, especially Friedreich's ataxia and spinocerebellar ataxia type 3.

    Jul 29, 2018·32m·2 clips