Creative Disruption Podcast

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Creators on the mechanics behind a growing audience.

The gist

Ricky Ray Butler sits down with creators who built followings on Vine, TikTok and YouTube and asks how the growth actually happened. The answers are practical: choose a title and thumbnail before shooting anything, then keep making the same kind of video until an audience forms around it.

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About Creative Disruption Podcast

Creative Disruption Podcast is an interview show about how online creators find an audience, keep it and carry it to new platforms. Ricky Ray Butler hosts. The guests make things for a living and don't just comment on the industry: TikTok personalities, YouTubers, a creator who started on Vine and moved into VFX storytelling, and an engineer who builds real versions of tools and weapons from movies, TV and comic books. Butler tends to introduce guests in superlatives, and the mood is warm. There's more to it than praise, though. His questions lean toward mechanics and measurement. When he asks Garrett Watts how he calculates what an audience will enjoy, Watts seizes on the word and teases him for it. The most usable advice comes in the Kevin Langue episode. There, the case is made for picturing a viewer scrolling past, choosing the title and thumbnail that viewer would have to click, and only then building the video. The same conversation warns against borrowing an audience with a one-off reaction video and argues for making similar content, a little better each time, until people gather around it. Colie Nuanez brings the TikTok side, including a stretch when the comments were almost entirely hateful, which was exactly when the following jumped. That episode is titled 'Transforming Your TikTok Following into YouTube Fans Expert Tips from Colie Nuanez', and the talk reaches back to earlier waves of creators who crossed over from Vine. Fame comes up too. Butler introduces Davis Burleson as a former DoorDash driver who took off on TikTok during quarantine, and their conversation turns to family and to the people who show up with agendas once a creator gets big. Garrett Watts describes how he answers young people who ask how to start on YouTube: sincerely, don't, and go travel, fall in love and get your heart broken first so there is something to put into the work. He also describes the algorithm serving him a video his spirit needed, which he calls a little digital hug. On the production side, Dominic Barrett, known as King Vader, talks about studying the shots and performances in the work that inspires him, then drawing every shot in a small comic book so his whole set can see it. He separates planning from execution and notes that a plan can change at the script, the shoot or the edit. James Hobson, who runs Hacksmith Industries, connects his mechanical engineering studies to a lifelong love of superhero films, comics and games, and talks about plans for an engineering research campus. At the close of the Colie Nuanez conversation, the interviewer asks for the guest's feedback on technology meant to do at scale what the guest does as a human. For the practical playbook, start with Kevin Langue. For the craft of making things, go to King Vader and James Hobson.

Made for: Suits a listener who is building a channel on YouTube or TikTok and wants tactics from people who have done it, such as choosing a title and thumbnail before filming or sticking to one kind of video. Also suits someone curious about how creators think about algorithms and audience data.

What sets it apart: Instead of stopping at the origin story, Ricky Ray Butler keeps asking how growth gets calculated, which steers guests toward titles, thumbnails, algorithms and platform moves. The guest mix runs from TikTok personalities to a VFX storyteller who storyboards in a comic book and an engineer who builds working versions of gear from films and comics.

In their own words

Creative Disruption lives where artificial intelligence and the creator economy meet.Host Ricky Ray Butler is a digital entertainment veteran and a pioneer in using AI technology to reshape the entertainment and media landscape. He's also the CEO of BENlabs, building AI models for human behavior and video intelligence.Co-host Judah Lee has his finger firmly on the pulse of the creator landscape as a Producer at TubeBuddy, a powerful toolset for creators to create, optimize, automate, and connect with an audience.

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Friday's thumbnail panic meets its match when you plan the click before shooting.

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  • to borrow a ten-video gut check before one dud sends you into thumbnail surgery
  • to learn a TikTok-to-YouTube tease that gives viewers a reason to find the full video
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Transforming Your TikTok Following into YouTube Fans Expert Tips from Colie NuanezMay 30, 2023

A practical creator-marketing discussion about turning TikTok attention into YouTube traffic through stronger short-form bridges.

Creative Disruption frames the shift from TikTok to YouTube as a practical posting problem, then stays close to the mechanics. Koli Nuanes points to controversy as a possible engagement driver, consistency as a baseline, and a more effective bridge: capturing key moments while a…

Kevin Langue on Building His Community via DataNov 5, 2022

A practical case for building a repeat audience instead of chasing one viral spike.

Creative Disruption frames audience growth less as a mystery than as a discipline of packaging, repetition, and follow-through. Kevin Lange begins before production, asking what title and thumbnail would make a baseball player click, then shapes the video around that promise.

Garrett Watts: From Funny or Die to Becoming a YouTube Sensation and Surviving YouTubeOct 1, 2022

Garrett Watts finds a human logic in YouTube's strange algorithmic encounters.

Garrett Watts frames YouTube as a place shaped by appetite, attention, and the hope of giving viewers a good time. With Ricky Ray Butler, he talks about making videos that spark curiosity, open the door to a spooky experience, and sometimes feel oddly personal when the algorithm…

Davis Burleson on Becoming a TikTok Star and Host of What’s Poppin’.Aug 27, 2022

Davis Burleson frames a TikTok breakout through sudden visibility, family advice, and the work of staying grounded.

Davis Burleson gives the episode a clean throughline: a quick shift from DoorDash driver and would-be YouTuber to TikTok breakout and host of What's Poppin'.

King Vader’s Journey from Vine to VFX. Part 1.Jul 9, 2022

King Vader links his Vine beginnings to the visual discipline behind his story-driven productions.

Dominic Barrett, also known as King Vader, traces a creative path from small Maryland videos with his older cousin and younger brother to work built around story, visual effects, and deliberate direction.

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    Transforming Your TikTok Following into YouTube Fans Expert Tips from Colie Nuanez

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    Creative Disruption talks with Colie Nuanez about turning a TikTok audience into YouTube fans, and she says "controversy encourages engagement" after hate comments helped her following jump.

    May 30, 2023·1h 3m·4 clips
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    Kevin Langue on Building His Community via Data

    Hidden gem

    Kevin Lange says 75% of creators have 20% to 40% fake Instagram engagement, which can make brand deals look stronger than they are.

    Nov 5, 2022·1h 15m·5 clips
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    Garrett Watts: From Funny or Die to Becoming a YouTube Sensation and Surviving YouTube

    Hidden gem

    Creative Disruption Podcast talks with Garrett Watts about Vine, Funny or Die, and the creator logic behind his YouTube and TikTok work, with Ricky Ray Butler steering the interview.

    Oct 1, 2022·1h 2m·4 clips
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    Davis Burleson on Becoming a TikTok Star and Host of What’s Poppin’.

    Hidden gem

    Ricky Ray Butler interviews Davis Burleson on Creative Disruption about how What's Poppin' grew from a quarantine bedroom project into a street-interview show.

    Aug 27, 2022·49m·3 clips
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    King Vader’s Journey from Vine to VFX. Part 1.

    Hidden gem

    ["Creative Disruption with Ricky Ray Butler follows Dominic Barrett, known as King Vader, from filming in a Maryland room at age 11 to building work on Netflix Dreams.", "Barrett says Vine gave him half a million followers before the app shut down, and he had to rebuild on Instagram and YouTube after the audience disappeared.", "He explains that King Vader came from Darth Vader and King Batch, then describes a directing process built around source material, comic-book storyboards, and shot-by-shot planning.", "The episode also covers a Jujutsu Kaisen live-action video planned for Anime Expo on July 2 and Dream Con on July 15, plus his advice to love the process and keep moving through family doubt."]

    Jul 9, 2022·50m·4 clips
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    What’s Inside Makes DOUBLE the Ad Revenue from Facebook Compared to YouTube!

    Dan Markham says Facebook ad revenue and Reels bonuses were almost double YouTube video ad revenue for four consecutive months.

    May 28, 2022·1h 4m·2 clips
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    MrBeast’s 1 Billion Dollar Live Stream Strategy. Pt 4

    May 21, 2022·14m
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    MrBeast Is Giving Away ANOTHER Private Island! Part 5

    May 21, 2022·13m
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    Money Made On Tik Tok Vs YouTube With Mr Beast Pt. 3

    May 7, 2022·14m
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    MrBeast Roasts Ricky! MrBeast shares tips for driving retention And Leveraging Data. Part 2

    Apr 30, 2022·12m
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    MrBeast is back! The man, the myth, the legend. Part 1

    Apr 23, 2022·11m
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    Corridor Digital’s Jake Watson Takes on the Metaverse, Virtual Reality, and the Evolution of Content

    Mar 26, 2022·1h 21m
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    Zealous on Winning 2 Million Subscribers from Mr Beast

    Dec 16, 2021·1h 10m
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    James Hobson on How to Keep Innovating

    Interview with James Hobson of Hacksmith Industries about turning fictional inventions into reality and building an engineering research campus.

    Nov 30, 2021·1h 10m
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    Successful Creators Need to DIVERSIFY

    Nov 27, 2021·1h 16m
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    The Future Of AI in Entertainment Featuring Ben Taylor

    Oct 23, 2021·1h 9m
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    Brent Rivera’s Secret to Creator Explosion? Content & Collaboration

    Sep 19, 2021·47m
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    Sam Sheffer’s Advice to Creators? Save Money!

    Sep 19, 2021·1h 21m
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    CD40: Do You Want To Succeed? Look To The Latino Community

    Sep 13, 2021·52m
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    CD41: Zach King: How To Dominate TikTok

    The hosts discuss their content creation strategy and share a personal anecdote about making a Harry Potter-inspired video.

    Sep 13, 2021·54m
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    CD42: Creators NEED Props for Success

    Sep 13, 2021·55m
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    CD40: Hollywood NEEDS YouTube Analytics

    Sep 3, 2021·56m
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    CD39: Big Budget Movie Studios Battle Over Subscription Services

    Sep 3, 2021·1h 16m
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    Ep.38 The Next Wave Monetization of Live Streaming

    Jul 10, 2021·49m
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    CD38: Earn More Money During Your Live Streams With Stage Ten

    Feb 10, 2021·49m
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    CD37: Finding The RIGHT Way To Connect With Influencers

    Hosts Ricky Ray Butler and Daryl Leaves interview Ben Hagerty, a creative director and rising star in the creative space, discussing his work with top talent and the intersection of AI and the creator economy.

    Feb 6, 2021·47m
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    CD36: YouTube Gamer Muselk’s Insane 140 Hour work week

    Feb 3, 2021·1h
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    CD35: The Ultimate Goal is NOT Money It's Attention

    Jan 30, 2021·59m
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    CD34: Gaming Is the Most Disruptive Industry That Exists

    Nov 27, 2020·1h 13m
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    CD33: Capitalizing on the New Wave of Short Form Content

    Nov 4, 2020·1h 9m
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    CD32: Secrets to Paid Subscribers on Facebook with Ladbaby

    Hosts Ricky Ray Butler and Daryl Eves discuss the creator economy and AI technology at VidCon London, interviewing creator Lad Baby about his success with paid subscriptions and viral content.

    Nov 3, 2020·54m
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    CD30: The Next Billionaire will be an Influencer!

    May 23, 2020·44m
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    CD29: Branding Success: the Right Influencer w/ the Right Product

    May 18, 2020·47m
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    CD: 28 Data Doesn't Lie: Messaging is Greater than Creative w/ Jeffrey Harmon

    May 2, 2020·1h 10m
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    CD27: Building Products your Audience will Love! w/ JerryRigEverthing

    Apr 21, 2020·59m
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    CD 26: Is MrBeast a YouTube GENIUS or a Clickbait King?

    Feb 19, 2020·1h 19m
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    CD25: Benji Travis Shares His Top Brand Deal Tricks

    Dec 14, 2019·58m
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    CD24: Stay relevant, expand your content on multiple platforms

    Nov 2, 2019·45m
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    CD23: It's a CRAZY time and people need to laugh - All Things Comedy CEO Mike Bertolina

    Oct 26, 2019·51m
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    CD22: Heath Hussar's pivot from Defunct Vine to YouTube

    Oct 19, 2019·37m
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    CD21: Matt Stephanina - crossing his social media brand into mainstream media growth

    Oct 12, 2019·1h 6m
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    CD20: Empower Artist, That's What's Remembered in History - Reed Duchscher

    Oct 5, 2019·58m
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    CD 19: The marketing industry is just Lazy with Derral Eves

    The hosts discuss the strategic move by streamer Ninja to switch platforms to Mixer, highlighting the battle of platforms in the creator economy.

    Sep 28, 2019·53m
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    CD18: Consistency is Awesome Quality is Better with PrestonPlayz

    Hosts discuss the Fortnite World Cup prize money and interview a top YouTube gamer about his career.

    Sep 21, 2019·1h 1m
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    CD17: The World of YouTube's Quasi Legal System - LegalEagle Devin Stone

    Sep 19, 2019·58m
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    CD16: It Doesn't Really Matter If It's Illegal Or Not - Corridor Digital

    Aug 24, 2019·56m
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    CD15: Un-traditionalist and the convergence of the digital industry with Deniese Davis

    The episode discusses the founding of Colored Creative and features an interview with producer Denise Davis, touching on YouTube partnerships and creator economy challenges.

    Aug 19, 2019·1h 7m
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    CD14: I'm Quitting My Job at LinkedIn to make YouTube videos with Carter Sharer and Lizzy Chang

    Hosts interview YouTube influencers Carter Sharer and Elizabeth Chang about their journey to millions of subscribers and quitting their jobs.

    Aug 17, 2019·1h 7m
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    CD13: Knee deep into Hollywood Steve Sandoval

    Aug 12, 2019·56m
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    CD12: Future of Influencers is the of TV today Ricky Ray Butler & Derral Eves

    Aug 10, 2019·55m