CISO to CISO Cybersecurity Talk

Michael Coates

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Discussions with industry-leading CISOs about building successful security programs, succeeding in your career, and creating amazing teams. Guests from Cruise, Splunk, Gusto, Blue Cross Blue Shield, Airbnb and more! Hosted by Michael Coates, former CISO of Twitter and CEO of Altitude Networks.

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Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Practical interviews connect cybersecurity leadership to the organizational constraints that determine whether security programs actually work.

Michael Coates turns conversations with security leaders into clear accounts of how cyber risk is managed inside real organizations. The direct interview format gives guests room to explain their career decisions, the programs they inherited, and the constraints behind choices…

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A sugar-packet trick meets 25-year-old devices; your security checklist might need a human column.

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  • to spot when a CISO job is really a compliance job before you accept it
  • to rethink hiring after hearing new teammates thrive in a security contest without their boss's help
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Episode 20 - Katrina Biscay, CISO at University of CincinnatiJan 3, 2022

Higher-ed security here comes down to trust, outreach, and making room for chaos.

The piece follows Katrina Biskay, the University of Cincinnati CISO, through an immigrant path from Ukraine, an education-minded turn, and the daily pressure of securing a large university.

Episode 19 - Justin Berman, CISO of Thirty MadisonOct 5, 2021

A candid look at honest CISO expectations and zero-to-one security judgment.

Justin Berman's conversation with Michael Coates focuses on what it really means for a CISO role to be substantive rather than cosmetic. It also circles through his work at 30 Madison and settles on a familiar friction point: security hires can burn out when a company says it…

Episode 17 - Steve Tran, CISO of MGM StudiosSep 24, 2021

A sharp look at social engineering, hiring, and how security judgment gets built.

Steve Tran comes across as a CISO with a clear point of view, and the opening coffee-house magic trick makes social engineering feel unsettlingly ordinary.

Episode 16 - Will Pizzano - Founder of Sentant, Former CISO at Hustle, Former Director of IT at Thrasys IncMay 29, 2021

Startup security feels concrete once modems, cloud sharing, and small-team access habits come into view.

Michael Coates, CEO and co-founder of Altitude Networks and formerly CISO of Twitter, joins Will Pisano, founder at Sentent and a virtual CISO at a number of small and medium startups, in a conversation that stays firmly on the practical side of security work.

Episode 18 - Bob Lord, former CSO of the DNC

A clear-eyed talk about why security failures start long before the patch cycle.

Bob Lord and Michael Coates spend the conversation on security work that is hardest to reduce to slogans: how careers turn into security, why patching matters but never solves everything, and why the biggest leverage often sits earlier in the product and decision chain.

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Episodes

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    Episode 18 - Bob Lord, former CSO of the DNC

    Hidden gem

    My advice is not to patch your Exchange server - it is to get rid of it entirely.

    ·43m·3 clips
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    Episode 20 - Katrina Biscay, CISO at University of Cincinnati

    Hidden gem

    Michael Coates and Katrina Biskay spend the episode on the University of Cincinnati's security problem, where one freshman can bring 7 to 10 connected devices and the campus also includes a hospital, police, and a power plant.

    Jan 3, 2022·31m·2 clips
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    Episode 19 - Justin Berman, CISO of Thirty Madison

    Justin Berman says the CISO job is often misread, because leaders expect either an engineer, an executive peer, or a control that prevents every mistake.

    Oct 5, 2021·51m·3 clips
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    Episode 17 - Steve Tran, CISO of MGM Studios

    Hidden gem

    Steve Tran turns a coffee-house magic trick into a lesson about social engineering and password theft.

    Sep 24, 2021·38m·3 clips
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    Episode 16 - Will Pizzano - Founder of Sentant, Former CISO at Hustle, Former Director of IT at Thrasys Inc

    Hidden gem

    CISO to CISO Episode 16 focuses on how Will Pisano thinks startups should choose security priorities, from PII handling to vendor questionnaires.

    May 29, 2021·28m·2 clips
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    Episode 15 - Eric Sorenson - Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) at doTERRA International LLC

    May 17, 2021·35m
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    Episode 13 - Chris Houlder - Head of Global CyberSecurity at BioMarin Pharmaceutical Inc., Former CISO at Clarivate Analytics and Autodesk

    Apr 14, 2021·43m
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    Episode 14 - Surbhi Tugnawat - CISO at SRI International, Advisory Committee Member at U.S. Department of Homeland Security

    Apr 14, 2021·28m
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    Episode 12 - Rohit Parchuri - CISO at Collective Health

    Mar 13, 2021·37m
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    Episode 11 - Lisa Hall - Director of Information Security at PagerDuty

    Mar 10, 2021·27m
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    Episode 10 - Keith McCartney - VP of Security & IT at DNAnexus

    Nov 19, 2020·30m
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    Episode 9 - Emilio Escobar - CISO of Datadog and Formerly VP of InfoSec at Hulu

    Emilio Escobar says people-focused problem-solving, not technical skill alone, moved him toward the CISO role.

    Nov 12, 2020·44m·2 clips
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    Episode 8 - Andy Steingruebl - CISO at Pinterest

    Sep 21, 2020·36m
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    Episode 7 - Vijaya Kaza - CISO at Airbnb

    Sep 11, 2020·35m
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    Episode 6 - Yassir Abousselham - CISO at Splunk, former CISO at Okta. Prior security leader at Google and EY.

    Aug 28, 2020·43m
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    Episode 5 - Joel Fulton - Ph.D. Founder. Former CISO at Splunk. Prior security and risk leader at Google, Symantec, Boeing.

    Aug 21, 2020·32m
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    Episode 4 - Ben Hagen - Director of Information Security at Cruise, former Facebook, Netflix, Obama campaign

    Aug 7, 2020·36m
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    Episode 2 - Olivia Rose - CISO of The RealReal & Former CISO of Mailchimp

    Jul 31, 2020·35m
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    Episode 3 - Yaron Levi - CISO of Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas City

    Jul 31, 2020·27m
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    Episode 1 - Fredrick "Flee" Lee - CISO of Gusto

    CISO to CISO host Michael Coates interviews Gusto CISO Fredrick “Flee” Lee about building security into company culture.

    Jul 31, 2020·48m·2 clips