CiRCE Institute Podcast Network

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Old sayings, hard lessons, patient judgment.

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CiRCE Institute Podcast Network is a classroom-minded collection of shows, with Proverbial taking the clearest shape in these episodes. Joshua Gibbs treats proverbs as tests of reality, pressing them into questions about criticism, selfhood, temptation, schooling, taste, maturity, and experience.

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About CiRCE Institute Podcast Network

CiRCE Institute Podcast Network is a classical education network with a strongly didactic center. In the recent material here, Proverbial supplies the clearest example of its style and intellectual habits. Joshua Gibbs starts with a proverb, reads it twice, and then lets the sentence become a test case for how people actually live. The proof is in the pudding turns into an argument against clean systems that pretend to remove the need for wisdom. A Dale Carnegie line about baiting the hook becomes a critique of half-hearted appeals, uninspired school job postings, and the lazy assumption that personality alone is enough. The show is comfortable being severe. It is also more concrete than abstract, returning again and again to classrooms, students, teachers, bad news, work, age, and appetite. It favors experience over theory. That contrast becomes one of its deepest recurring concerns: young people are tempted by abstractions, older people by what they have seen, and neither condition automatically produces virtue. The religious frame is explicit, but the episodes do not simply quote doctrine and stop. They reason through temptation, nature, sin, self-creation, generational pride, and the awkward moral knowledge that comes from watching another person receive bad news. Art and criticism matter here too. Christopher Nolan, Jackson Pollock, Renaissance paintings, James Joyce, and Mr. James Duffy all become occasions for asking whether judgment sharpens perception or merely flatters the critic. The show has little interest in breezy inspiration. It prefers long sentences, repetition, correction, and the kind of argument that circles a claim until its practical consequences are harder to ignore. The best audience is willing to sit still for that. This is audio for listeners who want education to mean formation, not just information.

Made for: Best suited to classical educators, Christian school communities, parents, literature-minded listeners, and anyone drawn to moral essays in spoken form. It rewards people who like slow argument more than quick affirmation.

What sets it apart: The network’s distinctive strength is its lecture-like patience: a proverb is not decoration, but a tool for testing modern habits against experience, theology, and ordinary social life.

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The CiRCE Institute Podcast Network is made up of three regular shows: Dwell features conversations about motherhood, home education, homemaking, and more. Proverbial features author and educator Joshua Gibbs exploring proverbs from the ages. The Play’s The Thing is the ultimate resource for Shakespeare lovers hosted by actor, playwright, and educator Tim McIntosh. Plus we produce various seasonal shows like The Weight of Fatherhood with Brian Phillips, Ask Andrew with CIRCE President Andrew Kern, and Café Scholé with Dr. Christopher Perrin.” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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One proverb becomes a stress test for your theories about art, identity, grief, and human nature.

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  • an old saying pushed until your neat theory starts wobbling under lived experience
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Proverbial #103: Grace KellyJul 28, 2022

A familiar proverb becomes a case for wisdom over tidy theory.

This episode takes one of the most familiar proverbs and treats it as a serious problem. Gibbs moves from the shortened line to the longer version about tasting the pudding, and that shift frames a clear argument: reality rarely fits a clean theory, and wisdom has to wait on the…

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Episodes

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    Proverbial #67: My Girls

    ·20m
  2. 2

    Proverbial #52: Preaching to the Choir

    ·21m
  3. 3

    Proverbial #51: Time Will Tell

    ·25m
  4. 4

    Proverbial #96: Sick Fascination

    ·25m
  5. 5

    Proverbial #103: Grace Kelly

    ·23m
  6. 6

    Proverbial #102: My Sparkling Personality

    ·20m
  7. 7

    Proverbial #100: Gravity Always Wins

    ·23m
  8. 8

    Proverbial #99: Problems

    ·23m
  9. 9

    Proverbial #98: Giving the Devil His Due

    ·21m
  10. 10

    Edward Lear's "The Table and the Chair"

    ·6m
  11. 11

    Proverbial #97: Self Help

    ·26m
  12. 12

    Ask Andrew: How Does Rhetoric Teach Us to Read?

    ·36m
  13. 13

    Proverbial #48: Again and Again

    ·28m
  14. 14

    Proverbial 35: A Full Life

    ·33m
  15. 15

    Proverbial #94: The Hours

    ·22m
  16. 16

    Proverbial #92: Family of Trees

    ·21m
  17. 17

    Proverbial #89: So Complicated

    ·21m
  18. 18

    Proverbial #88: The Real World

    ·23m
  19. 19

    Proverbial #87: What Could Go Wrong?

    ·23m
  20. 20

    Proverbial 86: The Merciless Clandestine Society that Rules the World

    ·19m
  21. 21

    Proverbial #83: Fondest, Blindest, Weakest

    ·18m
  22. 22

    Proverbial #81: Losing Weight

    ·20m
  23. 23

    Dad's and Health (Weight of Fatherhood 2.6)

    ·34m
  24. 24

    Proverbial #78: Homework

    ·26m
  25. 25

    Proverbial #77: Losing Sleep

    ·22m
  26. 26

    Books on Fathering Daughters (Weight of Fatherhood 2.5)

    ·10m
  27. 27

    Proverbial #75: How to Ruin a Decent Christoper Nolan Movie

    ·22m
  28. 28

    Proverbial #74: Michael Bay

    ·22m
  29. 29

    Proverbial #73: Lenny Belardo

    ·22m
  30. 30

    Proverbial #72: I Care

    ·21m
  31. 31

    Cafe Schole #15: Education as Beatitude

    ·30m
  32. 32

    Proverbial #71: Drench to the Bone

    ·20m
  33. 33

    Proverbial #70: On Occasion

    ·23m
  34. 34

    Dwell #12: Learning from Nature

    ·32m
  35. 35

    The Weight of Fatherhood: Season 2 Premier

    ·50m
  36. 36

    Proverbial #68: Marvin

    ·29m
  37. 37

    Proverbial #53: Little by Little

    ·26m
  38. 38

    Proverbial #66: The Traveler

    ·27m
  39. 39

    Dwell #11: Making the Most of Summer

    ·34m
  40. 40

    Dwell #10: The Art of Narration

    ·31m
  41. 41

    Proverbial #65: Praying for Brad Pitt

    ·31m
  42. 42

    Proverbial #63: I'm On a Roll Now

    ·27m
  43. 43

    Dwell #9: What to Do When Our Stories Are Hard

    ·31m
  44. 44

    Proverbial 62: Ten Years from Now

    ·29m
  45. 45

    Dwell #7: Habits (Part 2)

    ·30m
  46. 46

    Proverbial #59: Four Star Daydream

    ·23m
  47. 47

    Proverbial #58: Drugs Sell Themselves

    ·24m
  48. 48

    Dwell #6: On the Habits of Our Home

    ·34m
  49. 49

    Proverbial #57: Fortunes on a String

    ·23m
  50. 50

    Dwell #5: Family Fun

    ·31m
  51. 51

    Proverbial #56: The Best Policy

    ·20m
  52. 52

    Proverbial #55: Horace the Bear

    ·31m
  53. 53

    Proverbial #54: Death and Wellness

    ·25m
  54. 54

    Ask Andrew: On Grammar and the Interpretation of Signs

    ·55m
  55. 55

    Ask Andrew 60: How do I teach history classically?

    ·47m
  56. 56

    Ask Andrew 59: How God Taught Adam

    ·47m
  57. 57

    Proverbial #50: Who Are You Trying to Convince?

    ·30m
  58. 58

    Ask Andrew: How Does Rhetoric Teach Us to Read (Part 2)

    ·56m
  59. 59

    Proverbial #49: 18 to 34

    ·29m
  60. 60

    Proverbial #47: Fathers & Sons

    ·28m
  61. 61

    Proverbial 45: Bully for You

    ·28m
  62. 62

    Proverbial #44: We May Be Through with the Past but the Past Is Not Through With Us

    ·28m
  63. 63

    Proverbial #43: No Easy Way Out

    ·29m
  64. 64

    Ask Andrew: Thoughts on the Relationship between the Arts, Sciences, and Reason

    ·1h
  65. 65

    Proverbial #41: The Long Farewell

    ·29m
  66. 66

    Ask Andrew #64: Furthers Thoughts on the Definition of Rhetoric

    ·58m
  67. 67

    Proverbial #40: Silence is Golden

    ·25m
  68. 68

    Proverbial #39: Heaven Can Wait

    ·22m
  69. 69

    Proverbial #38: Made in Italy

    ·27m
  70. 70

    Ask Andrew 62: How to adapt to the needs of individual students

    ·48m
  71. 71

    Proverbial #37: The Best Part of the Trip

    ·31m
  72. 72

    Ask Andrew #61: How do I adapt a classical education to the modern system?

    ·53m
  73. 73

    Proverbial 36: Like a Wolf

    ·24m
  74. 74

    Ask Andrew 58: How should I respond to my reluctant learner?

    ·32m
  75. 75

    Ask Andrew #57: The Fundamental Literary Skills (and more)

    ·30m
  76. 76

    Cafe Schole #10: Study as Prayer and Love for God

    ·32m
  77. 77

    Ask Andrew #56: How should we use the "should question?"

    ·39m
  78. 78

    FORMA: Dale Grote + Wes Callihan on Latin and the book of Acts

    ·56m
  79. 79

    Ask Andrew #55: On Tools for Making Connections

    ·30m
  80. 80

    Proverbial #33: Candy Canes

    ·24m
  81. 81

    The Commons 4.5: Understanding Hollywood's War on the Family

    ·48m
  82. 82

    Cafe Schole #9: Schole and Ecstasy

    ·20m
  83. 83

    The Commons 4.4: Loving the Natural Sciences: An Interview with Gordon Wilson

    ·45m
  84. 84

    The Play's the Thing: Coriolanus, Act I

    ·1h 5m
  85. 85

    Cafe Schole #8: Order and Solitude

    ·34m
  86. 86

    Proverbial #32: Anthology

    ·18m
  87. 87

    Proverbial #31: The Witching Hour

    ·32m
  88. 88

    The Commons 4.2: A Spirit of Inquiry

    ·46m
  89. 89

    Proverbial #30: Stuck in the Middle

    ·30m
  90. 90

    Cafe Schole #7: Order and Rest

    ·20m
  91. 91

    Proverbial #29: A Retraction

    ·28m
  92. 92

    Proverbial #28: Stars

    ·29m
  93. 93

    Proverbial #27: The Real You

    ·30m
  94. 94

    Cafe Schole #6: Christ, The Teacher

    ·24m
  95. 95

    Proverbial #26: I Didn't Get You Anthing

    ·28m
  96. 96

    FORMA: Robert Bortins on a new Masters Degree for Homeschoolers

    ·29m
  97. 97

    Proverbial 64: Stay Humble, Stay Low

    Promotion of the Searcy Apprenticeship program for classical education teacher development.

    ·36m
  98. 98

    FORMA: Talking about the new "30 Poems to Memorize" book

    Heidi White interviews David Kern about classical literature and the intersection of classical thought with contemporary culture.

    ·46m
  99. 99

    The Commons 4.1: Classical Educators & the Church: An Interview with Dana Gage

    This episode features an interview with Dana Gage on classical educators and the church.

    ·40m·4 clips
  100. 100

    Weight of Fatherhood 2.2: Christine Cohen

    Brian Phillips interviews Christine Cohen, author of 'The Winter King', on the Weight of Fatherhood podcast.

    ·31m·3 clips
  101. 101

    Proverbial #103: Grace Kelly

    Hidden gem

    Joshua Gibbs says Proverbs demands experience, not theory: "Answer a fool according to his folly" and "Don't answer."

    Jul 28, 2022·23m·1 clip
  102. 102

    Proverbial #102: My Sparkling Personality

    Jul 20, 2022·20m
  103. 103

    Proverbial #100: Gravity Always Wins

    Hidden gem

    Joshua Gibbs compares human nature to a Nerf football that returns to its original shape.

    Jun 16, 2022·23m·1 clip
  104. 104

    Proverbial #99: Problems

    Hidden gem

    A 16-year-old may accept $50 to move a car, while an adult first asks what is in the trunk.

    May 31, 2022·23m·1 clip
  105. 105

    Proverbial #98: Giving the Devil His Due

    May 19, 2022·21m
  106. 106

    Edward Lear's "The Table and the Chair"

    May 13, 2022·6m
  107. 107

    Proverbial #97: Self Help

    In Proverbial #97, Joshua Gibbs examines Thomas Saas's claim that the self is created rather than found, linking it to the way writers develop a voice.

    May 12, 2022·26m·1 clip
  108. 108

    Proverbial #96: Sick Fascination

    Hidden gem

    Joshua Gibbs hosts Proverbial #96, “Sick Fascination,” using “don’t shoot the messenger” to examine why people blame those who deliver bad news.

    Apr 27, 2022·25m·1 clip
  109. 109

    Proverbial #94: The Hours

    Apr 8, 2022·22m
  110. 110

    Proverbial #92: Family of Trees

    Mar 24, 2022·21m
  111. 111

    Proverbial #89: So Complicated

    Feb 18, 2022·21m
  112. 112

    Proverbial #88: The Real World

    Feb 9, 2022·23m
  113. 113

    Proverbial #87: What Could Go Wrong?

    Jan 28, 2022·23m
  114. 114

    Proverbial 86: The Merciless Clandestine Society that Rules the World

    Jan 22, 2022·19m
  115. 115

    Proverbial #83: Fondest, Blindest, Weakest

    Dec 3, 2021·18m
  116. 116

    Proverbial #81: Losing Weight

    Nov 11, 2021·20m
  117. 117

    Proverbial #78: Homework

    Oct 15, 2021·26m
  118. 118

    Dad's and Health (Weight of Fatherhood 2.6)

    Oct 15, 2021·34m
  119. 119

    Proverbial #77: Losing Sleep

    Oct 6, 2021·22m
  120. 120

    Books on Fathering Daughters (Weight of Fatherhood 2.5)

    Oct 5, 2021·10m
  121. 121

    Proverbial #75: How to Ruin a Decent Christoper Nolan Movie

    Joshua Gibbs discusses a proverb by Jean de La Bruyere about how the pleasure of criticizing can prevent us from appreciating fine things, using it to critique modern criticism.

    Sep 15, 2021·22m
  122. 122

    Proverbial #74: Michael Bay

    Sep 10, 2021·22m
  123. 123

    Proverbial #73: Lenny Belardo

    Sep 1, 2021·22m
  124. 124

    Proverbial #72: I Care

    Aug 25, 2021·21m
  125. 125

    Cafe Schole #15: Education as Beatitude

    Aug 20, 2021·30m
  126. 126

    Proverbial #71: Drench to the Bone

    Aug 18, 2021·20m
  127. 127

    Proverbial #70: On Occasion

    Aug 11, 2021·23m
  128. 128

    Weight of Fatherhood 2.2: Christine Cohen

    Jul 16, 2021·31m
  129. 129

    Dwell #12: Learning from Nature

    Jul 9, 2021·32m
  130. 130

    The Weight of Fatherhood: Season 2 Premier

    Jul 9, 2021·50m
  131. 131

    Proverbial #68: Marvin

    Jul 7, 2021·29m
  132. 132

    Proverbial #67: My Girls

    Jul 1, 2021·20m
  133. 133

    Proverbial #66: The Traveler

    Jun 24, 2021·27m
  134. 134

    Dwell #11: Making the Most of Summer

    Jun 18, 2021·34m
  135. 135

    Dwell #10: The Art of Narration

    Jun 15, 2021·31m
  136. 136

    Proverbial #65: Praying for Brad Pitt

    Jun 9, 2021·31m
  137. 137

    Proverbial 64: Stay Humble, Stay Low

    Promotion of the Searcy Apprenticeship program for classical education teacher development, with a teaser for the Proverbial episode on humility.

    Jun 5, 2021·36m
  138. 138

    Proverbial #63: I'm On a Roll Now

    May 27, 2021·27m
  139. 139

    Proverbial 62: Ten Years from Now

    May 19, 2021·29m
  140. 140

    Dwell #9: What to Do When Our Stories Are Hard

    May 19, 2021·31m
  141. 141

    Dwell #7: Habits (Part 2)

    Apr 24, 2021·30m
  142. 142

    Proverbial #59: Four Star Daydream

    Apr 22, 2021·23m
  143. 143

    Proverbial #58: Drugs Sell Themselves

    Apr 14, 2021·24m
  144. 144

    Dwell #6: On the Habits of Our Home

    Apr 10, 2021·34m
  145. 145

    Proverbial #57: Fortunes on a String

    Apr 8, 2021·23m
  146. 146

    Dwell #5: Family Fun

    Apr 2, 2021·31m
  147. 147

    Proverbial #56: The Best Policy

    Apr 1, 2021·20m
  148. 148

    Proverbial #55: Horace the Bear

    Mar 24, 2021·31m
  149. 149

    Proverbial #54: Death and Wellness

    Mar 18, 2021·25m
  150. 150

    Ask Andrew: On Grammar and the Interpretation of Signs

    Mar 15, 2021·55m