Bytes Over Bagels

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Chicago tech interviews with a morning-show grin.

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Bytes Over Bagels is a Chicago tech conversation show with a morning-radio streak: episodes tend to open with greetings to the city and jokes among the regulars, then settle into interviews. Guests include a Starter League co-founder and a technologist who explains insurance risk, and one season is built around empathy in leadership, branding and understanding customers.

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About Bytes Over Bagels

Bytes Over Bagels is a Chicago technology show built around interviews and sponsored by 8-Bit Studios, a studio that makes apps and websites. It does not start quietly. Cold opens greet the city directly, with lines like 'Good morning, Chicago' and, in one episode, 'Let's wake up this beast', before a sponsor read and some easy back-and-forth among the regulars. Mary Brown turns up across several episodes, sometimes in the studio and sometimes remote. The jokes are part of the package. Episode 22 has fill-in co-host Brett Meckie, Heather Brown and Dave Seidler, billed as everybody's favorite nemesis, roasting an absent John over a supposed Whole Foods habit. There are birthday asides and snowy mornings, and on one Monday the sponsor's office can be heard in the background. Beneath all that, the guests bring real material. Gary Hallgren, who calls himself a technology guy rather than an insurance guy, explains why insurers have to set a price before they know what a policy will cost, and he pictures drivers as colored marbles in a jar. Mike McGee, co-founder of Starter League, is booked to talk about Starter League's new entrepreneur school. In The Mission Economy, a guest explains how a community partnership onboards people. It asks about their skills, causes and campaigns so it can match them with projects, and the people range from those who have started nonprofits or worked on political campaigns to newcomers still looking for an outlet. A season centred on empathy gives the show a single through-line. The crew set out to learn why empathy sits so close to 8-Bit's mission, and they leaned on remote interviews to reach guests internationally. Maria Ross arrives as the guest they had hoped for: someone who has written on the subject. Asked about a company whose board did service work as a PR stunt, she argues that the motive matters less than the act, because performing empathy is still doing it. Another guest presents a diagram of four leadership styles plotted against cognitive and affective empathy, a model still being tested through questionnaires with company leaders around the world. Elsewhere, one voice points to Apple, Samsung and Tesla as companies that study their users closely, down to the packaging, and contrasts them with firms that rely on raw data alone. Even there the teasing comes back, with a jab about the crew's StrengthsFinder scores. Sign-offs point to subscriptions, and one crew member admits the analytics are part of the appeal. What a listener gets is a friendly look at people building things in Chicago, with earnest questions and running jokes side by side.

Made for: Suits a listener who follows Chicago's tech and startup community and likes interviews wrapped in loose, joking studio chatter. It also fits someone curious about how empathy shapes leadership, branding and the way companies understand their customers.

What sets it apart: It pairs Chicago tech interviews with a full season on empathy, framed by its sponsor 8-Bit Studios and that company's mission. Morning-radio banter, from roasting an absent crew member to office noise on a snowy Monday, keeps even the earnest episodes informal.

In their own words

Interviews and news with Chicago's biggest players in technology, design, and venture capital. A Unicorn Road production.

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A cable-company food-bank photo op leaves you asking when a good deed becomes more than a stunt.

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  • to judge for yourself whether a publicity stunt can change the people doing it
  • to distinguish feeling someone's emotions from understanding their perspective before you lead a team
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The Mission EconomyAug 18, 2020

A grounded look at matching professional skills with community work that needs them.

The episode frames mission-driven work as a matter of careful fit: learn what people care about, understand what they know how to do, and place them where that experience can be useful.

S3:3 - Cognitive vs Affective EmpathyMay 12, 2020

A grounded look at why deliberate understanding can serve leaders better than raw emotional reaction.

Empathy lands as a practical leadership skill here, with a clear distinction between recognizing what someone else is experiencing and being swept into an emotional response. Dr.

Creating An Empathetic BrandMar 3, 2020

Maria Ross shows how a food-bank PR effort can become a practical case for empathy at work.

Maria Ross frames empathy as something that has to be felt in behavior, not just named in brand language. The episode turns on service work tied to a food-bank event for a major cable company, where the original brief seems partly about being seen as a good community citizen.

Empathy - Interpersonal, Organizational, End-UserFeb 4, 2020

A candid, useful take on empathy as a design habit, sharpened by an unexpectedly revealing StrengthsFinder result.

Empathy comes through as both a design principle and an organizational habit, with 8-Bit's mission widening into a practical question: how well do teams understand the people they hope to serve?

Making transportation smarter, safer and more usefulDec 17, 2019

A clear, practical look at how driving data can make insurance risk feel less like a category and more like a signal.

Transportation turns into a data question in this conversation with Gary Hallgren, who explains how driving behavior can change the way insurers judge risk.

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  1. 1

    The Mission Economy

    Hidden gem

    ["Bites Over Bagels talks with Caleb Gardner about 18 Coffees, the mission economy, and remote work.", "Mary Brown and John record from Chicago quarantine and joke that Gardner is speaking from a closet with a high-quality microphone.", "Gardner says 18 Coffees focuses on innovation through consulting, community, and content at the intersection of digital transformation and social change.", "He argues that nonprofit innovation is constrained more by structure, small teams, and decades-old operating models than by vision or technology."]

    Aug 18, 2020·32m·2 clips
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    S3:3 - Cognitive vs Affective Empathy

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    Bites Over Bagels talks with Dr.

    May 12, 2020·30m·2 clips
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    Creating An Empathetic Brand

    Hidden gem

    Bites Over Bagels talks with Maria Ross, co-founder and CEO of Red Slice and author of The Empathy Edge, about what it means to build an empathetic brand without reducing empathy to marketing copy.

    Mar 3, 2020·35m·2 clips
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    Empathy - Interpersonal, Organizational, End-User

    Hidden gem

    ["Bites Over Bagels centers this episode on 8-Bit Studios' empathy focus, with John, Mary, Steve, and Don connecting it to client work, UX, and internal teamwork.", "John says 8-Bit started as a \"more human\" agency with work-life balance and friend-like client relationships, then realized its strongest work sat in a \"top right quadrant\" of collaboration and end-user empathy.", "The group breaks empathy into cognitive, affective, and doing forms, and John says the only documented measure he found is the Empathy Quotient.", "Mary, Steve, and Don keep it practical with StrengthsFinder, accessibility, organizational alignment, and a long bagel debate that ends with everything bagels, cream cheese, and New Jersey standards."]

    Feb 4, 2020·31m·2 clips
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    Making transportation smarter, safer and more useful

    Hidden gem

    Mary and Jessie talk with Gary Hallgren about Arity's driving-risk data and insurance pricing, and he says the company processes about a billion miles of driving data every two days.

    Dec 17, 2019·21m·1 clip
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    Anonymity and honest opinions

    Kaben Clausen says TruePublic grew from concerns about polling bias after the 2016 election and declining phone survey response.

    Nov 26, 2019·31m·2 clips
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    Percent Pledge: Making Giving Easy

    Joe Pollock says Percent Pledge makes employee donations recurring through payroll deductions and shares personalized impact reports.

    Nov 20, 2019·27m·2 clips
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    (LIVE 2 of 2) Chicago Inno State of Innovation: The Future of Cannabis

    Bytes Over Bagels reports that Philo raised a $16 million seed round for compliant cannabis marketing.

    Oct 23, 2019·38m·2 clips
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    (LIVE 1 of 2) Chicago Inno State of Innovation: The Future of Cannabis

    Oct 23, 2019·40m
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    Transformational Tech Training

    Oct 16, 2019·30m
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    Chamberlain: Opening Doors to Innovation

    Oct 2, 2019·26m
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    S2 - EP12: Closing the Gender Gap in Tech

    Sep 17, 2019·24m
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    The growth of Chicago Tech into a key player

    Sep 10, 2019·26m
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    LIVE from Whiskey Acres: AgriTech

    Aug 20, 2019·26m
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    Tech pioneering the fast casual food space

    Aug 8, 2019·25m
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    Using Data in the Mental Health field

    Jul 17, 2019·19m
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    Amazon for Family Entertainment

    Jun 25, 2019·24m
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    Selfies are the New Autograph

    Jun 11, 2019·34m
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    Code Platoon for Veterans

    May 23, 2019·20m
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    A More Human VR Experience

    Apr 16, 2019·19m
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    The Future of HR Tech

    Mar 19, 2019·30m
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    Diversity and Inclusion

    Nov 16, 2018·34m
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    Back to the Bytes

    Feb 28, 2018·24m
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    Shift-gi-gi-goo

    Nov 20, 2013·27m
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    Wowzzzerrrs

    Nov 13, 2013·36m
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    O to the C-A

    Nov 6, 2013·40m
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    One eyed, one horned, flying purple plunger sharer

    Oct 30, 2013·36m
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    Let's go ride a bike

    Oct 23, 2013·34m
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    What can (Chris) Brown do for you?

    Oct 16, 2013·38m
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    Double Your Pleasure Double Your Fun

    Oct 9, 2013·38m
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    If you're fat and you know it Retrofit

    Oct 2, 2013·42m
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    Shop until ya drop

    Sep 25, 2013·34m
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    Waiting is the hardest part

    Sep 18, 2013·42m
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    Na na na na na na na na....Craig gurl!!

    Sep 11, 2013·43m
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    Cherry, Cherry Baby!

    Sep 4, 2013·49m
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    Bhatt, what I really want to say is...

    Aug 28, 2013·37m
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    Dropping logs and writing blogs

    Aug 21, 2013·33m
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    The wonderful wizard of John

    Aug 14, 2013·48m
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    A nun and a priest

    Aug 7, 2013·33m
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    Parkers, prepare for glory

    Jul 31, 2013·34m
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    Too legit it fits

    Jul 24, 2013·40m
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    Back to school, back to school

    A morning show covering Chicago tech news and featuring an interview with Mike McGee, co-founder of Starter League.

    Jul 17, 2013·38m
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    Bob... it's the Guru

    Jul 10, 2013·39m
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    If you want to destroy my sweatpants

    Jul 3, 2013·32m
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    Mr Sandman

    Jun 26, 2013·35m
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    The green machine

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    Jun 19, 2013·31m
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    Tweet-a-leet-a-leeee

    Jun 12, 2013·26m
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    Bang, pop, Kapow!

    Jun 5, 2013·33m
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    Caloric ROI

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    May 29, 2013·38m
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    Open data dreamweaver

    May 22, 2013·34m