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Supreme Court analysis with teeth.

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5-4 turns Supreme Court cases into sharp, plainspoken arguments about power, rights, and institutional failure. Its episodes move from doctrine to lived consequences, with legal analysis, political context, and cleanly aimed outrage.

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5-4 is Supreme Court analysis with the reverence stripped out. Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael read cases as political acts, then explain the doctrine in terms that make the stakes hard to miss. The show is progressive, skeptical, and often irritated for good reason. Its episodes usually start with a case, but the real subject is the machinery underneath: police power, executive power, judicial discretion, statutory interpretation, and the excuses institutions make for themselves. A discussion of Chiles v. Salazar becomes a fight over whether medical care can be distorted through First Amendment logic. Hudson v. Michigan turns a familiar police phrase into a broader argument about remedies, incentives, and what happens when the Court trusts law enforcement to police itself. Dames and Moore v. Regan opens onto American foreign policy toward Iran and the elastic boundaries of presidential authority. Learning Resources v. Trump uses tariff litigation to show how much can hinge on a single statutory verb. Pulsifer v. United States slows down over the word “and” because that kind of reading can decide years of prison time. INS v. Delgado asks why workers surrounded by armed agents are expected to intuit their constitutional status in real time. The tone is conversational but not casual about consequences. Jokes land beside doctrine, and the doctrinal points usually sharpen the joke rather than interrupt it. The hosts are comfortable calling an argument hollow, arbitrary, or detached from the real world when the opinion earns it. They also spend time on concurrences, dissents, and stray judicial flourishes because those details reveal how elite legal language launders power. The show’s legal explanations are built for listeners who can handle complexity but do not want ceremonial neutrality. It treats Supreme Court coverage as civic combat, not court-watching hobbyism. Periodic episodes also move beyond case breakdowns, including subscriber teasers and the Giving Guide’s focus on organizations and mutual aid. The running emphasis is consistent: law is not separate from politics, and the Court’s technical choices shape ordinary lives. For a listener tired of bloodless legal commentary, 5-4 offers doctrine with teeth.

Made for: For politically engaged listeners who want Supreme Court doctrine explained plainly without pretending legal reasoning is neutral. It especially suits people interested in civil liberties, policing, executive power, immigration, criminal justice, and the politics inside judicial opinions.

What sets it apart: 5-4 pairs real legal analysis with openly progressive judgment, treating opinions as instruments of power rather than abstract puzzles. Its edge comes from moving quickly between close reading, institutional critique, and gallows humor.

In their own words

5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it's a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics. Subscribe to our premium episodes & much more at fivefourpod.com/support 5-4 is a production of Prologue Projects.

As heard by us

Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026

5-4 connects close readings of Supreme Court decisions to their practical consequences, with sharp argument and a plainly stated political perspective.

5-4 turns Supreme Court opinions into lively arguments about how legal language distributes power in the real world. Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael begin with a case's facts and governing law, then test the majority's reasoning against the practical consequences it produces.

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Supreme Court reasoning enters the group chat, and Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael have brought receipts.

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  • to hear statutory language translated before the justices somehow turn "and" into "or"
  • Fourth Amendment rulings tested against what a worker or homeowner would actually experience
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Episodes

  1. 1

    Chiles v. Salazar

    Hidden gem

    5 to 4 covers Childs v.

    Apr 14, 2026·52m·3 clips
  2. 2

    Hudson v. Michigan

    The 5 to 4 podcast discusses the 2006 Supreme Court case Hudson v.

    Apr 7, 2026·52m·2 clips
  3. 3

    Dames & Moore v. Regan

    The podcast episode discusses the Supreme Court case Dames & Moore v.

    Mar 24, 2026·48m·2 clips
  4. 4

    No War Is Illegal (When They All Are) [TEASER]

    A teaser for a podcast episode exploring the legal evolution of war powers in the US, focusing on how presidents have expanded their authority to initiate conflict.

    Mar 17, 2026·6m
  5. 5

    Learning Resources Inc. v. Trump

    5-4 analyzes Learning Resources Inc.

    Mar 10, 2026·1h·4 clips
  6. 6

    Immigration Law in 2026: Fighting the Cruelty Machine

    Mar 3, 2026·1h 25m
  7. 7

    Meet Your Attorney General, Pam Bondi [TEASER]

    Feb 24, 2026·6m
  8. 8

    Pulsifer v. United States

    Hidden gem

    Pulsifer v.

    Feb 17, 2026·51m·2 clips
  9. 9

    Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Delgado

    Hidden gem

    5-4 covers INS v.

    Feb 10, 2026·50m·2 clips
  10. 10

    2026 Mailbag: Is Any Of This Legal? [TEASER]

    Feb 3, 2026·6m
  11. 11

    The Rise and Fall of the Voting Rights Act, Part II

    Jan 27, 2026·1h 4m
  12. 12

    The Rise and Fall of the Voting Rights Act, Part I

    Jan 20, 2026·1h 12m
  13. 13

    The 2025 5-4 Giving Guide: Don’t Let the Fascists Keep You Down

    Hidden gem

    The hosts of 5 to 4 present their annual giving guide, recommending organizations to support in the face of political despair and discussing the Trump administration's approach to Venezuela.

    Dec 23, 2025·21m·1 clip
  14. 14

    Movie Review: Average Joe [TEASER]

    Dec 16, 2025·5m
  15. 15

    Trump v. Orr

    Dec 9, 2025·46m
  16. 16

    Fire at Will: Trump’s Illegal War in the Caribbean [TEASER]

    Nov 25, 2025·5m
  17. 17

    Department of Homeland Security v. Thuraissigiam

    Nov 18, 2025·45m
  18. 18

    “What’s at Stake is Everything”: The Last Columbia Protester in ICE Detention

    Nov 11, 2025·50m
  19. 19

    Garcetti v. Ceballos

    Nov 4, 2025·46m
  20. 20

    Panic! In The Federal Judiciary [TEASER]

    Oct 28, 2025·5m
  21. 21

    Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Lopez-Mendoza

    Oct 21, 2025·49m
  22. 22

    Rhiannon Interviews Mahmoud Khalil

    Rhiannon interviews Mahmoud Khalil about Palestinian liberation, introduced within a podcast feed cross-promotion.

    Oct 18, 2025·43m
  23. 23

    Department of State v. AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition

    Oct 14, 2025·39m
  24. 24

    Free Speech, Chilled to Perfection [TEASER]

    Oct 7, 2025·5m
  25. 25

    2025-2026 Supreme Court Term Preview

    The hosts preview the upcoming Supreme Court term, discussing cases on culture war issues, voting rights, criminal law, police immunity, and tariffs.

    Sep 23, 2025·59m
  26. 26

    Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo

    Sep 16, 2025·57m
  27. 27

    Introducing FIASCO: BENGHAZI, hosted by Leon Neyfakh

    Sep 12, 2025·49m
  28. 28

    Welcome to Law School 2025

    Sep 9, 2025·1h 11m
  29. 29

    Step Your Pussy Up Under Fascism [TEASER]

    Sep 2, 2025·5m
  30. 30

    Medina v. Planned Parenthood South Atlantic

    Aug 26, 2025·49m
  31. 31

    McMahon v. New York

    Aug 12, 2025·51m
  32. 32

    Trump Brings the War Home [UNLOCKED]

    Aug 8, 2025·58m
  33. 33

    Trump Brings the War Home [TEASER]

    Aug 5, 2025·6m
  34. 34

    Free Speech Coalition, Inc. v. Paxton

    Jul 29, 2025·56m
  35. 35

    Mahmoud v. Taylor

    Jul 22, 2025·1h 2m
  36. 36

    Portrait of a John Roberts on Fire [TEASER]

    Jul 15, 2025·5m
  37. 37

    Trump v. CASA, Inc.

    Jul 8, 2025·1h 3m
  38. 38

    United States v. Skrmetti

    Jul 1, 2025·1h 9m
  39. 39

    The DOGE Cases

    Jun 17, 2025·54m
  40. 40

    Trump v. Wilcox

    Jun 10, 2025·42m
  41. 41

    Copaganda with Alec Karakatsanis [TEASER]

    Jun 3, 2025·5m
  42. 42

    Jones v. North Carolina Prisoners' Labor Union

    May 27, 2025·43m
  43. 43

    No Due Process, Yes Jumbo Plane [TEASER]

    May 20, 2025·5m
  44. 44

    Introducing... Final Thoughts: Jerry Springer, a New Podcast from Leon Neyfakh

    May 16, 2025·43m
  45. 45

    Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier

    May 6, 2025·51m
  46. 46

    United States v. Zubaydah

    Apr 29, 2025·57m
  47. 47

    Movie Review: The Firm [TEASER]

    Apr 22, 2025·5m
  48. 48

    Introducing... Fiasco: Iran-Contra

    Apr 21, 2025·43m
  49. 49

    Trump v. J.G.G.

    This episode of 5 to 4 discusses the Supreme Court case Trump v.

    Apr 15, 2025·52m
  50. 50

    Department of State v. Muñoz

    This episode of 5 to 4 discusses the Supreme Court case Department of State v.

    Apr 8, 2025·51m