
Supreme Court analysis with teeth.
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5-4 turns Supreme Court cases into sharp, plainspoken arguments about power, rights, and institutional failure. Its episodes move from doctrine to lived consequences, with legal analysis, political context, and cleanly aimed outrage.
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About 5-4
5-4 is Supreme Court analysis with the reverence stripped out. Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael read cases as political acts, then explain the doctrine in terms that make the stakes hard to miss. The show is progressive, skeptical, and often irritated for good reason. Its episodes usually start with a case, but the real subject is the machinery underneath: police power, executive power, judicial discretion, statutory interpretation, and the excuses institutions make for themselves. A discussion of Chiles v. Salazar becomes a fight over whether medical care can be distorted through First Amendment logic. Hudson v. Michigan turns a familiar police phrase into a broader argument about remedies, incentives, and what happens when the Court trusts law enforcement to police itself. Dames and Moore v. Regan opens onto American foreign policy toward Iran and the elastic boundaries of presidential authority. Learning Resources v. Trump uses tariff litigation to show how much can hinge on a single statutory verb. Pulsifer v. United States slows down over the word “and” because that kind of reading can decide years of prison time. INS v. Delgado asks why workers surrounded by armed agents are expected to intuit their constitutional status in real time. The tone is conversational but not casual about consequences. Jokes land beside doctrine, and the doctrinal points usually sharpen the joke rather than interrupt it. The hosts are comfortable calling an argument hollow, arbitrary, or detached from the real world when the opinion earns it. They also spend time on concurrences, dissents, and stray judicial flourishes because those details reveal how elite legal language launders power. The show’s legal explanations are built for listeners who can handle complexity but do not want ceremonial neutrality. It treats Supreme Court coverage as civic combat, not court-watching hobbyism. Periodic episodes also move beyond case breakdowns, including subscriber teasers and the Giving Guide’s focus on organizations and mutual aid. The running emphasis is consistent: law is not separate from politics, and the Court’s technical choices shape ordinary lives. For a listener tired of bloodless legal commentary, 5-4 offers doctrine with teeth.
Made for: For politically engaged listeners who want Supreme Court doctrine explained plainly without pretending legal reasoning is neutral. It especially suits people interested in civil liberties, policing, executive power, immigration, criminal justice, and the politics inside judicial opinions.
What sets it apart: 5-4 pairs real legal analysis with openly progressive judgment, treating opinions as instruments of power rather than abstract puzzles. Its edge comes from moving quickly between close reading, institutional critique, and gallows humor.
In their own words
5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it's a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics. Subscribe to our premium episodes & much more at fivefourpod.com/support 5-4 is a production of Prologue Projects.
As heard by us
Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026
5-4 connects close readings of Supreme Court decisions to their practical consequences, with sharp argument and a plainly stated political perspective.
5-4 turns Supreme Court opinions into lively arguments about how legal language distributes power in the real world. Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael begin with a case's facts and governing law, then test the majority's reasoning against the practical consequences it produces.
Why you'd press play
Supreme Court reasoning enters the group chat, and Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael have brought receipts.
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- to hear statutory language translated before the justices somehow turn "and" into "or"
- Fourth Amendment rulings tested against what a worker or homeowner would actually experience
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Episodes
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Chiles v. Salazar
Hidden gem5 to 4 covers Childs v.
Apr 14, 2026·52m·3 clips - 2
Hudson v. Michigan
The 5 to 4 podcast discusses the 2006 Supreme Court case Hudson v.
Apr 7, 2026·52m·2 clips - 3
Dames & Moore v. Regan
The podcast episode discusses the Supreme Court case Dames & Moore v.
Mar 24, 2026·48m·2 clips - 4
No War Is Illegal (When They All Are) [TEASER]
A teaser for a podcast episode exploring the legal evolution of war powers in the US, focusing on how presidents have expanded their authority to initiate conflict.
Mar 17, 2026·6m - 5
Learning Resources Inc. v. Trump
5-4 analyzes Learning Resources Inc.
Mar 10, 2026·1h·4 clips - 6
Immigration Law in 2026: Fighting the Cruelty Machine
Mar 3, 2026·1h 25m - 7
Meet Your Attorney General, Pam Bondi [TEASER]
Feb 24, 2026·6m - 8
Pulsifer v. United States
Hidden gemPulsifer v.
Feb 17, 2026·51m·2 clips - 9
Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Delgado
Hidden gem5-4 covers INS v.
Feb 10, 2026·50m·2 clips - 10
2026 Mailbag: Is Any Of This Legal? [TEASER]
Feb 3, 2026·6m - 11
The Rise and Fall of the Voting Rights Act, Part II
Jan 27, 2026·1h 4m - 12
The Rise and Fall of the Voting Rights Act, Part I
Jan 20, 2026·1h 12m - 13
The 2025 5-4 Giving Guide: Don’t Let the Fascists Keep You Down
Hidden gemThe hosts of 5 to 4 present their annual giving guide, recommending organizations to support in the face of political despair and discussing the Trump administration's approach to Venezuela.
Dec 23, 2025·21m·1 clip - 14
Movie Review: Average Joe [TEASER]
Dec 16, 2025·5m - 15
Trump v. Orr
Dec 9, 2025·46m - 16
Fire at Will: Trump’s Illegal War in the Caribbean [TEASER]
Nov 25, 2025·5m - 17
Department of Homeland Security v. Thuraissigiam
Nov 18, 2025·45m - 18
“What’s at Stake is Everything”: The Last Columbia Protester in ICE Detention
Nov 11, 2025·50m - 19
Garcetti v. Ceballos
Nov 4, 2025·46m - 20
Panic! In The Federal Judiciary [TEASER]
Oct 28, 2025·5m - 21
Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Lopez-Mendoza
Oct 21, 2025·49m - 22
Rhiannon Interviews Mahmoud Khalil
Rhiannon interviews Mahmoud Khalil about Palestinian liberation, introduced within a podcast feed cross-promotion.
Oct 18, 2025·43m - 23
Department of State v. AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition
Oct 14, 2025·39m - 24
Free Speech, Chilled to Perfection [TEASER]
Oct 7, 2025·5m - 25
2025-2026 Supreme Court Term Preview
The hosts preview the upcoming Supreme Court term, discussing cases on culture war issues, voting rights, criminal law, police immunity, and tariffs.
Sep 23, 2025·59m - 26
Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo
Sep 16, 2025·57m - 27
Introducing FIASCO: BENGHAZI, hosted by Leon Neyfakh
Sep 12, 2025·49m - 28
Welcome to Law School 2025
Sep 9, 2025·1h 11m - 29
Step Your Pussy Up Under Fascism [TEASER]
Sep 2, 2025·5m - 30
Medina v. Planned Parenthood South Atlantic
Aug 26, 2025·49m - 31
McMahon v. New York
Aug 12, 2025·51m - 32
Trump Brings the War Home [UNLOCKED]
Aug 8, 2025·58m - 33
Trump Brings the War Home [TEASER]
Aug 5, 2025·6m - 34
Free Speech Coalition, Inc. v. Paxton
Jul 29, 2025·56m - 35
Mahmoud v. Taylor
Jul 22, 2025·1h 2m - 36
Portrait of a John Roberts on Fire [TEASER]
Jul 15, 2025·5m - 37
Trump v. CASA, Inc.
Jul 8, 2025·1h 3m - 38
United States v. Skrmetti
Jul 1, 2025·1h 9m - 39
The DOGE Cases
Jun 17, 2025·54m - 40
Trump v. Wilcox
Jun 10, 2025·42m - 41
Copaganda with Alec Karakatsanis [TEASER]
Jun 3, 2025·5m - 42
Jones v. North Carolina Prisoners' Labor Union
May 27, 2025·43m - 43
No Due Process, Yes Jumbo Plane [TEASER]
May 20, 2025·5m - 44
Introducing... Final Thoughts: Jerry Springer, a New Podcast from Leon Neyfakh
May 16, 2025·43m - 45
Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier
May 6, 2025·51m - 46
United States v. Zubaydah
Apr 29, 2025·57m - 47
Movie Review: The Firm [TEASER]
Apr 22, 2025·5m - 48
Introducing... Fiasco: Iran-Contra
Apr 21, 2025·43m - 49
Trump v. J.G.G.
This episode of 5 to 4 discusses the Supreme Court case Trump v.
Apr 15, 2025·52m - 50
Department of State v. Muñoz
This episode of 5 to 4 discusses the Supreme Court case Department of State v.
Apr 8, 2025·51m