Zen Pop · Todd and Cathy Adams

Leave Things Better Than We Found Them- Episode # 812

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Kathy reveals why some leaders sow chaos instead of leaving things better than they found them.
Hosts Kathy and Todd explore the theme of leaving things better than we found them, using pop culture examples like Gladiator and The Grinch to discuss leadership, trauma, and resilience. They connect these ideas to parenting, emphasizing how intention and growth can foster positive change in personal and societal contexts.

As heard by us

A groggy start, a movie detour, and a steady case for connection.

Todd and Kathy open episode 812 with a groggy morning stretch and a joking nod to Mucinex, then settle into the show’s familiar question of how people show up for one another.

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Why you'd press play

A parenting chat that starts with Todd feeling off and uses Maximus and the Grinch to circle back to self-understanding.

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