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Forever Chemicals, Forever Consequences: What PFAS Teaches Us About AI

April 3, 2025·1 hr 5 min·5 clips
A farmer called Rob Bilott about cows dropping dead, saying 'your grandmother said you'd help'—leading to a decades-long fight against DuPont.
Environmental lawyer Rob Bilott discusses his nearly 30-year battle against PFAS 'forever chemicals,' revealing how DuPont and 3M hid toxicity evidence while profiting. The conversation draws parallels to AI development, warning about corporate cover-ups, regulatory failures, and the need for precautionary approaches to prevent irreversible harm.

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A sober case study in how a useful product can become a permanent public burden.

PFAS is a story that begins with industrial usefulness and ends with damaged public trust. Tristan Ballott and Rob Ballott follow that path clearly, showing how a product can spread widely, how warning signs can sit in plain sight, and how the law can still leave people exposed…

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