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#954 WP-Tonic Show: Gutenberg The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly At The Beginning of 2025

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Brian Gardner reveals how Gutenberg's block editor eliminated the need for complex theming systems like Genesis.

In episode 954 of WP-Tonic, hosts Jonathan Denwood and Kurt von Ahnen interview Brian Gardner, head of community at WP Engine, to discuss Gutenberg's evolution, UX design challenges, and adoption issues in early 2025. They explore the block editor's strengths, weaknesses, and its impact on WordPress professionals and DIY users, touching on topics like open source development and future opportunities.

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A practical Gutenberg discussion for WordPress professionals, led by a longtime builder and community lead.

WP Tonic spends this episode on Gutenberg's strengths and weaknesses for WordPress professionals. Brian Gardner, head of community at WP Engine and a longtime WordPress builder, is a natural fit for that conversation.

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