What Most People Think with Geoff Norcott

THE END OF WOKE? - With Andrew Doyle

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Andrew Doyle explains why Supreme Court rulings, corporate DEI dismantling, and even a Jaguar advert signal the end of 'woke'.

Geoff Norcott opens the episode with housekeeping, thanking patrons, discussing Spotify ratings, and mentioning his appearance on 'Celebrity Pointless'. He then introduces guest Andrew Doyle, who is in Capri. They discuss Doyle's book 'The End of Woke', with Doyle listing evidence for woke's decline: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez removing pronouns, Trump's executive orders, UK Supreme Court rulings, and corporations dismantling DEI. Doyle highlights a Jaguar advert as a small sign that woke aesthetics now feel dated. He argues the woke movement infantilized adults and pushed authoritarian demands, citing an example of BLM protesters forcing a woman to raise a fist. Doyle reframes the culture war as liberty versus authority, not left versus right, noting authoritarianism can emerge anywhere. He discusses the 'woke right', where right-wingers use cancel culture, like targeting a Home Depot cashier for a tweet about Trump. Doyle explains how his satirical character Titania McGrath, created in 2018, mocked woke activists and dragged him into the culture war, leading to backlash from comedians and media. He describes the 'omni cause'—how ideological scripts allow predicting views on issues from BLM to environmentalism. Doyle and Norcott discuss tribal thinking, cognitive miser model, and the difficulty of changing minds. The episode ends with tour dates and book promotion.

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A comic political interview that frames the culture war as a struggle between liberty and authority.

Andrew Doyle's The End of Woke gives this episode a clear argument to work through: the culture war is less a left-right dispute than a contest between liberty and authority.

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You get a politically charged chat about Andrew's The End of Woke, liberalism, and why the culture war may be less left-versus-right than liberty-versus-authority.

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