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AI bubble & Recession fear vs reality 3.9% GDP growth 251028

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John Pagliano says AI differs from the dot-com bubble because sellers and buyers are both profitable.

1. The Wellsteading Podcast episode dated October 28, 2025 examines AI-bubble fears, recession concerns, and U.S. economic growth. 2. John Pagliano hosts the episode and identifies himself as founder and money manager at investablewealth.com. 3. The episode asks why stock prices and U.S. GDP are rising despite headlines about an AI bubble and a collapsing jobs market. 4. Pagliano says artificial-intelligence spending is distributed throughout the economy and is improving productivity. 5. He compares AI with the dot-com bubble and says companies selling and buying AI products are profitable. 6. Pagliano describes semiconductors, AI, robotics, and automation as cyclical industries currently operating strongly. 7. He calls the first-quarter GDP decline of 0.6% misleading because exporters accelerated shipments before Liberation Day tariffs. 8. Second-quarter GDP growth reached 3.8%, while third-quarter estimates stood at 3.9%. 9. Pagliano says fourth-quarter growth of at least 1% would keep 2025 GDP growth above 2%. 10. He links stock-market gains to corporate-profit growth, citing first-quarter growth near 12.8% and second-quarter growth above 11%. 11. Pagliano argues that aggregate spending by wealthy consumers continues to support the economy. 12. He cites Jesse James robbing banks as an analogy for focusing investments and careers where money is concentrated. 13. Pagliano says single-family housing remains supported by a shortage, while office space and brick-and-mortar retail remain questionable investments. 14. He identifies Toll Brothers as an example of a home builder serving upper-income consumers. 15. Pagliano says services such as massages, nail appointments, haircuts, dinners, and double frappuccinos remain areas of consumer spending. 16. He argues that lower oil prices may offset tariff-related inflation because petroleum affects nearly the entire economy. 17. Pagliano says industrial construction spending now exceeds pre-pandemic levels by more than three and a half times in many cases. 18. He attributes factory investment to AI data-center demand, geopolitical changes, economic warfare, deregulation, and tax incentives. 19. The solo presentation uses an assertive, conversational, numbers-driven educational style. 20. Long-term investors interested in productivity and corporate profits may appreciate it.

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A scoreboard-first case that brushes aside recession fear and follows spending toward the upper end.

John Pagliano argues that the talk of an AI bubble bursting, or a recession arriving soon, is getting ahead of the numbers. He treats the moment like a scoreboard instead of a mood check: the stock market keeps climbing, U.S.

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