Universal Disclosure Podcast (UAP / UFO Disclosure and our Belief Systems, Spirituality) · UFO Investigator Mike and Reverend Stu

Reverend responds to Age of Disclosure & a UFO Christmas Story

·1 hr 38 min·5 clips

David William Perry says, “Sod the disclosure,” because UFOs are either real or they are not.

1. Universal Disclosure Podcast examines Age of Disclosure, UFO disclosure, religion, spirituality, and the cultural meaning of nonhuman intelligence. 2. Mike, an active UFO field investigator in Southern California, and Reverend Stu in Melbourne interview Reverend and Monsignor David William Perry, a Scotland-based guest described as holding multiple PhDs. 3. The episode asks whether people should wait for presidential disclosure or examine what UFOs and possible extraterrestrial intelligence would mean for religion, consciousness, and society. 4. Perry responds to Age of Disclosure by saying, “Sod the disclosure,” and insisting that UFOs are either real or they are not. 5. Mike and Stu discuss soft disclosure, partial disclosure, media attention, and the possibility of a presidential announcement before the end of 2025. 6. Perry questions the distinction between UAPs and UFOs, saying the American military acknowledges UAPs while the disclosure debate continues in circles. 7. A submitted question uses Mauritania and the Central African Republic to ask whether people facing hunger and poverty can prioritize extraterrestrial disclosure. 8. Perry rejects a simple first-world versus third-world division and points to Indian vimana traditions, Tibetan accounts, and other non-Western references to unusual aerial phenomena. 9. Perry argues that churches are generally occupied with practical problems such as declining congregations, fundraising, building repairs, and the Salvation Army's soup run. 10. The discussion considers why some ministers describe UFOs as demonic while others avoid the subject because church committees prioritize fundraising or established sermon cycles. 11. Perry says a minister who believes UFOs represent evil should discuss that possibility rather than refusing to examine it. 12. He argues that alien knowledge would not automatically collapse Western religion, create street violence, or eliminate churches. 13. Perry cites Edgar Allan Poe's “The Imp of the Perverse” when discussing why people sometimes choose harmful actions despite knowing better. 14. He describes Carl Jung's UFO writing as an interpretation of a new myth, archetype, or constellation of psychic forces taking cosmic and technological form. 15. Perry presents Wilhelm Reich's claim that UFOs polluted orgone energy and recalls Reich using a cloudbuster in an attempt to confront them. 16. Arthur C. Clarke's Childhood's End appears as an example of an intelligent gas that initially views humans as primitive and communicates through music. 17. Emanuel Swedenborg is mentioned for visions involving beings from other worlds, while Alice Bailey is discussed through the idea of a spiritual hierarchy connected with Venus. 18. Perry repeatedly urges ufologists to become more robust, accept disagreement, and replace “us against them” thinking with scientific inquiry and philosophical debate. 19. UFO spirituality listeners seeking religious interpretations and cultural history will find the discussion relevant. 20. Listeners wanting technical evidence, case files, or a conventional government briefing may prefer another episode.

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