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TJG: She's "One of Us" with Elizabeth Day!

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A bestselling author explains how divorce, infertility, and a love for Bravo led to a podcast celebrating failure.
Hosts Courtney and Mary welcome guest Elizabeth Day, a bestselling author and host of the podcast 'How to Fail'. Day explains that her podcast was born from frustration with formulaic celebrity interviews and personal struggles including divorce and infertility at age 39. She discusses her new novel 'One of Us', a political thriller about rich people behaving badly, class, and misogyny. Day reveals the character Serena is housewife-coded, inspired by Real Housewives like Sonja Morgan and Countess Luann. She details the audiobook's cast, including Richard Armitage and Oliver Criss, aiming for a TV-show-like experience. Day argues reality TV is a preeminent cultural force that rehabilitates politicians, citing examples like 'I'm a Celebrity'. She shares being floated to join Real Housewives of London by a HeyU executive but declined to preserve her enjoyment as a viewer. Day recounts attending HeyU Fan Fest, where she interviewed Andy Cohen and dined with Lisa Barlow and Sutton Stracke. She describes BravoCon as overwhelming, getting drunk on Loverboy and gatecrashing the media room with a BuzzFeed microphone. Day analyzes Summer House, noting Kyle and Amanda's marital disintegration and the show's generational gap themes. She lists moving podcast guests like Jennette McCurdy, Dorinda Medley, and Monica Lewinsky. Day answers lightning-round questions, citing Meghan King Edmonds as her Bravo gateway due to shared IVF experiences and Countess Luann as her favorite Bravo star. She names Kenya Moore as a Housewife she'd bring back and chooses Below Deck as a show she'd join as a charter guest.

As heard by us

A BravoCon chat where scent, sunglasses, and Scorpio status become useful clues.

Elizabeth Day's first BravoCon plays like a loose evidence board: she had never been, did not feel prepared, and found that Two Judgy Girls helped her sort through what she had just seen.

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Want BravoCon made sense of through Lisa Barlow's scent, YSL sunglasses, and a Tom Ford offer that never quite arrives?

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