Episode 438: Christ vs. Khan (w/ special guest Jasper Nathaniel)

·1 hr 28 min·5 clips

Franklin Graham told Trump's Easter lunch that Iran wants to kill every Jew with atomic fire, as Trump is compared to Jesus.

The episode opens with hosts Tom and Terrence welcoming guest Jasper Nathaniel, a journalist, on April 2nd. They immediately dive into a discussion about Christian Zionism, Gentile identity, and the awkwardness of Easter for Jewish-Gentile relations. The hosts recount pranks and rising anti-Semitism from the previous day. They explore the confusion of Christian Zionism, given Christianity's proselytizing mission to Gentiles. The conversation shifts to Trump's recent appearances and an Easter lunch at the White House. They read quotes from Franklin Graham, who claimed Iran wants to kill every Jew with atomic fire and that Trump was raised up by God. This leads to a broader analysis of Trump being compared to Jesus and an Old Testament prophet by figures like Lance Wallnau and Paula White. The hosts discuss Paula White's terrifying charisma and her marriage to a Journey keyboardist. They then pivot to Netanyahu's statement that Jesus had no advantage over Genghis Khan, highlighting the tension between Christian Zionists and secular Israeli leaders. Jasper shares his reporting on Mike Huckabee's confused role as U.S. Ambassador to Israel, noting Huckabee's sincere but fleeting concern for Palestinian Americans. The discussion traces the history of Christian Zionism, referencing John Hagee's book 'Jerusalem Countdown' and the biblical imperative for some evangelicals. Jasper details the death of settler Yehuda Sherman in the West Bank, explaining how his father called him a 'sacrifice' and settlers used it to launch violent pogroms, establishing new outposts with state coordination. He describes the settler strategy of 'generating friction' through land patrols. The hosts analyze the international condemnations of settler violence, noting their disingenuous nature given Israeli government collaboration. They explore the liberal Zionist position, exemplified by Yair Lapid, which acknowledges biblical claims to land but cites practical constraints. The conversation critiques the Democratic Party's stance, focusing on AOC's backtracking on Iron Dome funding and the broader left flank's inadequate progress. Jasper argues momentum is shifting against Israel, with even some former Zionists now viewing the project as irredeemable. The episode concludes by noting the under-discussed role of Christian churches in funding Israel and the need for a positive anti-Zionist Jewish vision.

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Bible talk opens into a sharp look at settlement power.

This episode opens in a blunt, offhand register, with April 2, prank fallout, and a joke about rising anti-Semitism quickly giving way to Bible reading, Gentile identity, and Christian Zionism.

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Bible jokes, West Bank machinery, and Jasper Nathaniel in a loose, dry conversation.

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